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What helped you most to recover after program?
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2007, 01:12:36 PM »
Wait - we decided?

My best interest?


Fuck I was so pissed when I got sent to Idaho in 88. It meant no more shows or half pipes. Going to shows were good fucking times.
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2007, 01:29:55 PM »
Quote from: ""dishdutyfugitive""
Wait - we decided?

My best interest?


Fuck I was so pissed when I got sent to Idaho in 88. It meant no more shows or half pipes. Going to shows were good fucking times.

Some guys that finished Straight Inc before me and knew that I was into punk music in my 'druggie past' (glad those guys were around when I got out) turned me on to Suicidal Tendencies; it had just come out that year.... "How fitting," I recall thinking to myself at the time..
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2007, 01:36:31 PM »
I remember my first year  singing the lyrics to an RKL song over and over and over

I'm Locked in this cell,
With no chance of escape.
I've got to get out,
'Cause this my mind can't take.
I've fucked authority right in the ass,
Now authority gonna fuck me right back.
I'm in an institution and I can't get out.
I'm in an institution and there's no remorse.
I'm Locked in this cell,
With no chance of escape.
I've got to get out,
'Cause this my mind can't take.
I've fucked authority right in the ass,
Now authority gonna fuck me right back.
I'm in an institution and I can't get out.
I'm in an institution and there's no remorse.
Locked in this cell,
With no chance of escape.
I've got to get out,
'Cause this my mind can't take.
I've fucked authority right in the ass,
Now authority gonna fuck me right back.
I'm in an institution and I can't get out.
I'm in an institution and there's no remorse.
No remorse.



http://www.rkl.com/#
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2007, 03:02:22 PM »
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6. Pretending like it never happened.


This. Program, what program? I was in a boarding school for gifted teens and we had all sorts of fun...  :-?
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2007, 03:37:02 PM »
Wait a minute..... People have recovered??????[/color]  ::huh::

After 20 + years I still have not recovered. The assholes that support the program say "Sorry it turned out that way for you"

Now I'm not saying that I don't have a good life, but I'm being real when I say that I'm scarred for life by the program that I was in. Hence the name I've chosen "Botched Programming"

But the things that have helped ease the pain,
(1) Good Job
(2) Live near the beach in Florida
(3) Fun, fun, fun and more
(4) Tons of weed and alcohol
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2007, 05:48:51 PM »
Dang. Does kinda seem like the moms and stepmoms, doesn't it?

Auntie Em
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2007, 07:31:52 PM »
Quote from: ""Froderik""
Friends....and drugs...why do you ask?


to apply to the self. Figuring out why some kids seem destroyed, and some recover
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2007, 07:35:07 PM »
i should that i am a teen, who is completely isolated from everyone and everything. I am completely alienated
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2007, 07:35:50 PM »
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Dang. Does kinda seem like the moms and stepmoms, doesn't it?

Auntie Em



Yup - the wives are going to fall for the hyper-sensitive , super mushy, lovefest, cry your face off shit much faster than a man over 40 is.
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2007, 02:09:00 PM »
Guest wrote:
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i should [add] that i am a teen, who is completely isolated from everyone and everything. I am completely alienated.

I'm sorry to hear that, but I think you have come to the right place.

This forum has helped me connect to supportive people who understand what abusive settings these programs are. I am not a survivor, but have a family member in one of the schools, a niece who has been kept completely isolated for 2 years (only her parents have had contact). The experience has made me feel alienated from family members--not just her parents, but also those family members who are unwilling to do anything to get this girl out of there because it means, well, you know, confrontation and unpleasantness with the parents.

Fornits has helped me get questions answered--even when the answers are scary--and people have nearly all been very kind and sympathetic. Hope you find the same.

Auntie Em
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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2007, 02:40:43 PM »
FOUR NUTS DID![/color][/b]
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Institutionalized
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2007, 03:50:44 PM »
Fornits basically served as therapy in terms of validating my experiences and forcing me to evaluate program specific patterns.  It also radicalized me in terms of increasing a hyper awareness of social constraints.  

It also affected my parenting. I have one easy breezy kid and one fucking hell of a handful, and I am being very careful not to parent reactively. Not to grasp at the "lifelines" the school throws out to make your kid conform, while crushing his spirit. (Fornits has done an excellent job at reminding me NOT to rely on meds/institutions for help.  To just be more creative and ride it out.)

So: Time, Fornits, and a realization that I have more control over the trajectory of my life (this is for you, DDF,  know you love the word!).... also a really horrific failed marriage forced me to learn to take more control of my life.  Yeah, throw in a total break down and re-emergence.  (Anne -- your stories of an ex who tried to control you post marriage sent shivers down my spine. And to have your KoolAid swilling folks help in this endeavor--UGH!  I thought I was in a difficult position, but hearing your story, and that you made it through, was inspirational.)

As for Moms. Yep, it was mine who put me in. My Dad was a workaholic who was never home. Even though he didn't see eye to eye on CEDU, he felt he had to back her up, since she was at home.   However, to his credit, he is the reason I wasn't sent back when I made it back home after splitting.

I thought it was Social Distortion that sang the Institutionalized song. The "all I wanted was a pepsi song."   I was just telling my friend yesterday about that song and how it reminded me of some program parents.
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Lyrics
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2007, 03:56:39 PM »
Suicidal Tendencies Institutionalized Lyrics

Sometimes I try to do things, and it just don't turn out the way I wanted to and I get real frustrated, it's like, I take my time and I try real hard, but no matter what I do and no matter what I try it never works out, it's like I concentrate on it real hard, but it never works out, it's like I need some time to figure these things out, but there's always someone there going:

- Hey Mike, you know, we been noticing you've been having alot of problems lately, you know, and like maybe you should talk about it, you'd feel alot better.
And I go:
- No, it's ok, I now have some problems, I'll figure it out myself, just
leave me alone I'll figure it out.

And they go:
- Why don't you talk about it, you'll feel alot better?
And I go:
- No, I don't want to, just leave me alone, I'll figure it out myself!
And they keep on bugging me and it builds up inside, it builds up inside...

So you're gonna be institutionalized
You'll come out brainwashed with bloodshot eyes

You won't have any say
They'll brainwash you until you see their way

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

I was sitting in my room, and I was like staring at the walls thinking about
everything but then again I was thinking about nothing, and then my mom came
in and I didn't notice she was there and she calls my name and I didn't hear
her and then she started screaming:
- Mike, Mike!
And I go:
- What, what's the matter?
She goes:
- What's the matter with you?
I say:
- Nothing mom.
She goes:
- Don't tell me nothing, you're on drugs!
I go:
- No mom, I'm not on drugs, I'm ok, I'm just thinking, you know, why don't
you get me a Pepsi?
She goes:
- No, you're on drugs, you're crazy, normal people won't be acting that way!
I go:
- Mom, I'm all right, I'm just thinking, you know, so why don't you, like
give me a Pepsi?
And she goes:
- No, you're crazy!
All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me,
just one Pepsi.

They give you a white shirt with long sleeves
Tied around you're back, you're treated like thieves
Drug you up because they're lazy
It's too much work to help a crazy

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

I was sitting in my room and my mom and my dad came in and they pulled up a
chair and they sat down, they go:
- Mike, we need to talk to you.
And I said:
- Okay, what's the matter?
They go:
- Well me and your mom, we been noticing lately you've been having alot of problems, and you haven't been acting like yourself, and we're afraid that you're going to hurt somebody, and we're afraid that you're gonna hurt yourself, so we decided that it would be in your best interest if we put
you somewhere where you could get the help that you need... (Sound familar?)
And I said:
- Wait, what are we talking about?! We decided?! My best interest?! How can you know, how can you say what my best interest is? What are you trying to say? I'm crazy? When I went to your schools, I went to your churches, I went to your institutional learning facilities. So how can you say that I'm crazy?

They say they're gonna fix my brain
Alleviate my suffering and my pain
But by the time they fix my head
Mentally I'll be dead


I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

It doesn't matter, I'm trying to get hit by a car anyway.
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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2007, 04:06:20 PM »
just one pepsi
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2007, 04:18:26 PM »
By the way--its not that the Moms are all soft going for the crying shit.

No, mine was hardened cold.

That's what happens when you party instead of parent and then all the sudden your kid is a teenager with problems and you don't have the skills or resilience  to deal with them. You resent them because they aren't making your life easy, and you are all too happy to stick 'em where you can't see 'em. Au revoir, my sweet child. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!

She believed what they told her 'cause she wanted to.

I forgive her now, because I'm charge of finding her a nice nursing home.

ha ha (just kidding. I think.)
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