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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2007, 01:08:56 PM »
Look you guys must be really desperate to get peoples attention.  But anyone reading this knows that if a kid was kidnapped or abducted and placed into slavery and sexually abused AND the captors let you go AND you lived to talk about it this would become one of the most sensational stories of the century.  This would pale against the Charles Manson story in a heart beat.

Sorry, I just dont buy it and I dont think anyone else will either.



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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2007, 01:10:22 PM »
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Look you guys must be really desperate to get peoples attention.  But anyone reading this knows that if a kid was kidnapped or abducted and placed into slavery and sexually abused AND the captors let you go AND you lived to talk about it this would become one of the most sensational stories of the century.  This would pale against the Charles Manson story in a heart beat.

Sorry, I just dont buy it and I dont think anyone else will either.



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Are you calling me a liar?
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« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2007, 01:13:26 PM »
So you didn't read the above article, then?  Figures.  It's all in cold print - sex abuse, neglect and the program.  I guess TheWho just doesn't want to know the truth.  

If he did, maybe his own child would speak to him, but she doesn't.  I suppose she tried to tell him about the way she was sexually/psychologically/physically/emotionally abused at ASR, but he kept calling her a "liar" until she decided she had enough of TheWho and cut him off entirely.
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« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2007, 05:27:26 PM »
it's not only completely true it continues to happen b/c ppl like the who refuse to believe the children. we have nothing to gain by our stories at this point in our lives. there is no reason to lie, we speak now because we found our voice after 20 odd yrs of shame and silence. we were told we were lying then and you have the balls to call us liars now...after we have been through so much.. the who is a pysociopath similar to what we knew in the program. we after all these years fially realized it was not our fault and what was done to us is a crime and we don't want anyone else to suffer..thats the bottom line b/c most all the crimes commited against us will go unpunished, it doesnt mean they were any less of a crime or that they didn't happen at all?!?!
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« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2007, 05:38:05 PM »
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it's not only completely true it continues to happen b/c ppl like the who refuse to believe the children. we have nothing to gain by our stories at this point in our lives. there is no reason to lie, we speak now because we found our voice after 20 odd yrs of shame and silence. we were told we were lying then and you have the balls to call us liars now...after we have been through so much.. the who is a pysociopath similar to what we knew in the program. we after all these years fially realized it was not our fault and what was done to us is a crime and we don't want anyone else to suffer..thats the bottom line b/c most all the crimes commited against us will go unpunished, it doesnt mean they were any less of a crime or that they didn't happen at all?!?!


Well said....  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:
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« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2007, 06:07:46 PM »
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Look you guys must be really desperate to get peoples attention.  But anyone reading this knows that if a kid was kidnapped or abducted and placed into slavery and sexually abused AND the captors let you go AND you lived to talk about it this would become one of the most sensational stories of the century.  This would pale against the Charles Manson story in a heart beat.

Sorry, I just dont buy it and I dont think anyone else will either.



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Because you refuse to look at anything.  You take things out of context, twist them, outright lie and otherwise completely make an ass out of yourself.  

I wasn't bought and sold like Kizzy, it wasn't Chinese Water Torture, I wasn't gang raped and I wasn't personally beaten.  BUT.....I was bought for an initial fee of a couple of thousand dollars then monthly installments of $______ (I'm still trying to figure out how much money my parents paid).  I was required to do "speaking engagements" in promotion of Straight for at least a year.  I worked in the thrift store with proceeds going to Straight and never saw a dime.

No Chinese Water Torture but Straight did study the effects of and use extremely liberally....sleep deprivation, isolation from the outside world and intense peer culture pressure that the Chinese and Koreans had developed for the re-education of the American prisoners that they held captive.  They combined that with the therapeutic communities that Synanon started, most notably "The Game" ("raps" at Straight.... LGATs, Discovery Seminars at other places.).  

I wasn't raped but I was forced to listen to some of the most explicit sexual experiences that I had no idea of at that age.  I was expected to come up with something equally as degrading and if I didn't,  I was called the most vulgar names imaginable for hours on end, day after day.  They told me that they were "throwing my past up in my face" so that I would "realize how far down I had gone".  At the end of these marathon sessions after I would sit down the whole group and staff would yell, "Love ya Anne" in unison.  I wanted to throw up every time.  I wasn't raped, but when I spoke of being sexually abused when I was 7, I was told to focus on what I[/b] did to cause or contribute to the situation.  I know of two girls who were raped during the time I was there.

I wasn't beaten (physically at least) because I was too scared to step out of line, but I saw countless people get slammed to the floor (staff called it "restraining" them...ya know, for their own good :roll: ) for not having their feet flat on the floor (hey, a rule is a rule right?).  I wasn't beaten, but I saw countless kids spend weeks in the "time out room" being bounced off walls for 12 hours a day or more.  I wasn't beaten physically but I was expected to function on 2-3 hours of sleep a day, if we were lucky.  Push out enough tears in the "past" part of the rap (1 of about 6 during the day) not to trigger a confrontation for "being out of touch".   Try to keep my eyelids from drooping so not to trigger a confrontation for "something going on" because I had dark circles under my eyes.  I wasn't beaten but I was put on a peanut butter diet for about 3 1/2 weeks at a time where I had two pieces of white bread with a slab on peanut butter on it and a dixie cup of water 3 times a day, nothing else.  I wasn't beaten but the stress did manage to completely and fully stop my menstruation for the entire 23 months that I was there.  It happened to every single other girl in there too.  My doctor (years after I got out) was horrified.  She couldn't imagine the amount of physical and emotional stress it would take to stop a group of about 175 girls from having their periods..



Tell me again how I wasn't tortured asshole.






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« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2007, 06:16:35 PM »
When are we going to ban this agent provocateur??

AB - get on yim more. We gotta plan hitting some programs on the mainland!  Lets put him out of a job, shall we?
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

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« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2007, 06:27:01 PM »
TheWho, I wish you would stop posting things that anger this particular druggie, as she will continue expounding like this, which amounts to bad publicity for SIBS.

Anyway Who, you seem to be talented at making an ass out of yourself (e.g. your so-called "statistics" that these fornits druggies so easily refute; I find this downright ridiculous), and consequently casting a negative light on serious-minded folks in the industry (like myself) who are busy making a difference and getting these kids off drugs..
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« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2007, 06:29:14 PM »
I was put in a straight spin off on the 21st of Dec. I still get nervous when the 21st of every month rolls around. I think something really bad is going to happen. What a Christmas present, it's the gift thAT KEEPS ON GIVING...SOMEONE MAKE IT STOP AND GET THE WHO OFF HERE ITS TORTURE APON TORTURE
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« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2007, 06:38:40 PM »
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TheWho, I wish you would stop posting things that anger this particular druggie, as she will continue expounding like this, which amounts to bad publicity for SIBS.

Anyway Who, you seem to be talented at making an ass out of yourself (e.g. your so-called "statistics" that these fornits druggies so easily refute; I find this downright ridiculous), and consequently casting a negative light on serious-minded folks in the industry (like myself) who are busy making a difference and getting these kids off drugs..


Hey Dr Fuctard........ Do you think you can accommodate TheWho at S.I.B.S.???? We here at Fornits feel that if we don't get him some help something bad is going to happen. If need be we don't mind getting him court ordered.

Can you please help[/color] ..... He may die if you don't take him in... We would not want to see him in jails, institutions, or dead.
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« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2007, 06:41:11 PM »
and please dont call me a druggie that really makes my PTSD flare..i never did drugs before i was kidnapped into a cult..thanks idiot parents and child advocates..Jean Eitel was my gardian adlitem and suppose to has the childs interest in mind when making recommendations..she suggested I go into a straight spin off for 2 yrs never to see the light of day b/c i just turned 15 and had an attitude b/c my parent divorced and I didnt like the bitch my dad chose to be my step monster...guess I was right...assholes fuckin idiot of a dad looser of a sysem that viewed me with such disrespect and condemned me to a life of PTSD....Do you have any idea what its like to live life with ptsd...the stress of the smalles things send youb/c its been to much trama as a child and time is suppose to filter it abd what doesnt kill you makes you stronger...what a lie just another lie
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« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2007, 06:44:07 PM »
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I was put in a straight spin off on the 21st of Dec. I still get nervous when the 21st of every month rolls around. I think something really bad is going to happen. What a Christmas present, it's the gift thAT KEEPS ON GIVING...SOMEONE MAKE IT STOP AND GET THE WHO OFF HERE ITS TORTURE APON TORTURE
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« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2007, 06:44:39 PM »
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I was put in a straight spin off on the 21st of Dec. I still get nervous when the 21st of every month rolls around. I think something really bad is going to happen. What a Christmas present, it's the gift thAT KEEPS ON GIVING...SOMEONE MAKE IT STOP AND GET THE WHO OFF HERE ITS TORTURE APON TORTURE
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« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2007, 06:46:42 PM »
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TheWho, I wish you would stop posting things that anger this particular druggie, as she will continue expounding like this, which amounts to bad publicity for SIBS.

Anyway Who, you seem to be talented at making an ass out of yourself (e.g. your so-called "statistics" that these fornits druggies so easily refute; I find this downright ridiculous), and consequently casting a negative light on serious-minded folks in the industry (like myself) who are busy making a difference and getting these kids off drugs..

Hey Dr Fuctard........ Do you think you can accommodate TheWho at S.I.B.S.???? We here at Fornits feel that if we don't get him some help something bad is going to happen. If need be we don't mind getting him court ordered.

Can you please help[/color] ..... He may die if you don't take him in... We would not want to see him in jails, institutions, or dead.


Ah hell..... I'll be honest...
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« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2007, 06:54:22 PM »
and take your money and damage your child for the rest of his/her life
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