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Offline Froderik

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« Reply #105 on: December 19, 2007, 01:23:21 PM »
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I am really beginning to doubt it.

Beginning to? You must be new here...lol.
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« Reply #106 on: December 19, 2007, 01:36:40 PM »
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I am really beginning to doubt it.
Beginning to? You must be new here...lol.


nope, just being sarcastic.  8-)
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« Reply #107 on: December 19, 2007, 01:41:41 PM »
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No.... You just want to side track everyone and try to push your own beliefs on people, and or sway a parents decision so it will put another dollar in your pocket.

The only thing that most of the parents have in common is having the financial ability to pay the tuition and/or because the salesmans song and dance he puts on for the parents.

Hell program salesmen are worse than a used car salesman that sells you a car knowing that your are getting a lemon.


If you read through the posts you will see that economic position was not one of the things the parents had in common.  Their ability to pay ranged from virtually nil to extremely wealthy.  I think what the op was searching for was a commonality of some type like religious/ non religious...economic position.. large/small families etc.  and nothing surfaced on the first pass thru... I was proposing to change the criteria a little to take a second look, that’s all.



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Offline Froderik

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« Reply #108 on: December 19, 2007, 01:42:12 PM »
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I am really beginning to doubt it.
Beginning to? You must be new here...lol.

nope, just being sarcastic.  8-)

Right... yes, when pigs fly..
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« Reply #109 on: December 19, 2007, 01:46:10 PM »
Damn those flying pigs...
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« Reply #110 on: December 19, 2007, 02:16:21 PM »
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No.... You just want to side track everyone and try to push your own beliefs on people, and or sway a parents decision so it will put another dollar in your pocket.

"the salesmans song and dance he puts on for the parents"[/color]
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« Reply #111 on: December 19, 2007, 02:22:27 PM »
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No.... You just want to side track everyone and try to push your own beliefs on people, and or sway a parents decision so it will put another dollar in your pocket.

"the salesmans song and dance he puts on for the parents"[/color]


I would have left that in, but it wasnt clear looking at all the posts what percentage went thru an EDCon.  It is hard to say who got the song and dance and who didnt so we cant be sure they had this in common.  If we did a second pass we could try to capture this information.



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« Reply #112 on: December 19, 2007, 02:25:27 PM »
All programs salesmen put on the Song and Dance.
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« Reply #113 on: December 19, 2007, 02:36:01 PM »
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All programs salesmen put on the Song and Dance.

If you are talking about EdCons then we dont know what percentage of the parents utilized them and therefore there is no way of telling if they all had this in common.
If you mean the schools themselves then this could be true or not.  Although all schools have a song and dance and occasionally put on a dog and pony show for a group of parents (like any other school).  One of the questions we could ask is if the school effected their choice by the tour or sales pitch done by a schools agent.  In some cases parents all ready have their minds made up before talking to a specific school by talking to local therapists or familys they had met.
I think it would be important to differentiate between the three.....(sales pitch by EdCon, by school or made up mind on their own)

I believe we would find that the majority of parents who placed their child in a TBS utilized an EdCon.


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« Reply #114 on: December 19, 2007, 02:47:15 PM »
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Ha,Ha,Ha,  It becomes very clear why nothing is organized here.  




First, when you see him post the "ha, ha, ha"s, you know you're getting to him.


Second, Who.....there IS no organization here.  There never was intended to be any.  This is a place where people hang out and talk.  It began as a place for survivors to hang out and talk, but all POV are allowed.  Since it IS first and foremost a survivors forum pro-program people will get a fair ration of shit for pushing their particularly slick propaganda here, but at least you can still post.  Try that in any forum run by program people.  Dissent is NOT tolerated.....AT ALL.

Quit trying to turn this into something that it isn't and was never intended to be.  It is what it is.
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« Reply #115 on: December 19, 2007, 03:19:03 PM »
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First, when you see him post the "ha, ha, ha"s, you know you're getting to him.

Oh, no, I cant laugh anymore without people thinking I am really upset.  This is upsetting


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Second, Who.....there IS no organization here. There never was intended to be any.

That was what I was pointing out.  That’s why organized data is so hard for most people here to swallow.  It would be nice to change this.  Maybe show people the power of statistics and organized facts.


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This is a place where people hang out and talk. It began as a place for survivors to hang out and talk, but all POV are allowed. Since it IS first and foremost a survivors forum pro-program people will get a fair ration of shit for pushing their particularly slick propaganda here, but at least you can still post. Try that in any forum run by program people. Dissent is NOT tolerated.....AT ALL.

Quit trying to turn this into something that it isn't and was never intended to be. It is what it is.


Yes, we know, Anne, and Blacks use to have to sit at the back of the bus, “we were hear first so the rest of you have to respect usâ€
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« Reply #116 on: December 19, 2007, 03:21:07 PM »
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Bite my ass you pompous piece of shit.  I EARNED my right to be here.

 ::both::  ::fuckoff::  ::both::  ::fuckoff::
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The more boring a child is, the more the parents, when showing off the child, receive adulation for being good parents-- because they have a tame child-creature in their house.  ~~  Frank Zappa

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« Reply #117 on: December 19, 2007, 03:26:32 PM »
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Bite my ass you pompous piece of shit.  I EARNED my right to be here.

 ::both::  ::fuckoff::  ::both::  ::fuckoff::


We all did Anne, that is my point.  Each of us come here from different schools, different points of view, some pro program some anti program, some kids some adults... everyone is welcome, we have all been touched by the struggling teen industry.


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« Reply #118 on: December 19, 2007, 03:29:06 PM »
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We all did Anne, that is my point.  Each of us come here from different schools, different points of view, some pro program some anti program, some kids some adults... everyone is welcome, we have all been touched by the struggling teen industry.


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Wrong.  You have zero personal experience.


:roll:





Bite my ass you pompous piece of shit.  I EARNED my right to be here.

 ::both::  ::fuckoff::  ::both::  ::fuckoff::
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The more boring a child is, the more the parents, when showing off the child, receive adulation for being good parents-- because they have a tame child-creature in their house.  ~~  Frank Zappa

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« Reply #119 on: December 19, 2007, 03:33:22 PM »
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We all did Anne, that is my point.  Each of us come here from different schools, different points of view, some pro program some anti program, some kids some adults... everyone is welcome, we have all been touched by the struggling teen industry.


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Wrong.  You have zero personal experience.


:roll:





Bite my ass you pompous piece of shit.  I EARNED my right to be here.

 ::both::  ::fuckoff::  ::both::  ::fuckoff::


You have zero experience with Therapeutic Boarding schools, but we still allow you to post about them.


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