Power of Positive Thinking... A YLF Statement

[Anonymous]

11 and 12 are advertised for. WWASPS took a 7 year old once. (I don't have the ref for that.. anyone?) Villa Santa Maria implies that it takes young children (or is engaged in serious, horrifying amounts of infantilism). As far as any real form of mind control goes, the rule is ALWAYS "The younger, the better!" (Hence why many programs have a focus on regression.)

What was the deciding excuse behind your lock up?

The reason I can talk so fluently about an outsider's point of view is because I am, like maybe a third of the Anonymous on this board, an outsider. Despite my disagreements with my parents, I can say with pride that they were never this crazy. Frankly, most of what I read here sickens and disturbs the hell out of me, even though that's what I'm searching for (one of the reasons I keep coming back here).

And yes, I know who's lying and who isn't. Real fucking obvious to anyone who knows jack or shit about Internet communication, or any communication for that matter. The programmies sound very much like Scientologists and gloss over real concerns. The survivors are usually independently corroborated and/or their stories simply cannot be fictional (as in no one can make this shit up, and I've seen some NASTY made-up shit).

Almost all of the sane parents who catch so much as a glimpse of Fornits, ISAC, Anti-WWASP, or any other anti-program site RUN LIKE FUCK from the entire thing, especially with the GAO hearings going on. Why? Because most of them live in the generally positive world that TSW implies is a rarity. The whole concept of sending their own children to a place where they may or may not be thrown into a small room for months on end disturbs them.

Unfortunately, it's the insane ones who buy into (for example) Lon Woodbury's "parent choice" bullshit, and a lot of the arguments with the few real parents who DO show up on Fornits end up becoming of the "you're already acting a bit crazy- PLEASE, for your kids' sake, do not act any CRAZIER" variety.

But, again- to refocus back to the original post- it's the NORMAL people who compliment their children ordinarily.

It's the NUTJOBS that need to be told to do this.

Wow. it surprises me that so many anons would be outsiders. What you hit on that I relate to is the "varsity" “promâ€

[Che Gookin]

So just to recap:
The parents need to choose places that will praise their kids accomplishments and build self esteem. If the schools do not have licensed therapists or give the child access to therapists in private practice, then maybe you should reconsider choosing that school. Many of these schools focus on building self esteem and getting the child back on track with their education and personal goals.
Parents should always ask what type of discipline is used and determine if it fits with what your family does. If schools don’t want you to meet the kids who are presently there or don’t have a list of parents you can talk to this should be a red flag.

Visit the campus, talk to staff and talk to kids on campus, talk to parents who have been thru the system before deciding… it is a lot of work but worth it for your peace of mind.



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LET ME RECAP as the YLF never ever suggests a damn programme or allows anyone to pervert its message...

So just to recap:
The parents need praise the shit out of their children and love them no matter what. By no means does that mean they should let their kids push them around, but for the love of god never give up and abandon them to a program.

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Much Much Much better and in line with the philosphy of the YLF.

[Che Gookin]

CEDU FUCKING MIDDLE SCHOOL

Are you a survivor? 13 is very young, and it is rarer than being sent at 15, but it is hardly unheard of. Programs takes kids as young as 7. The have specific programs for 7-14 9-12. You are very very mistaken

In my group at 3 springs I had a 10 year old.  Average age was about 12 to 13 though.