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Offline Mel

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« on: November 06, 2007, 02:39:46 PM »
Hey everyone, there has been a lot of talk about reporting abuse, protesting and so on. I am often asked why so many people don't speak up about what happened to them and I have been thinking about that a lot lately.

When I was still halfway programmed, preaching the word, and  in constant contact with AARC people, I did try to report some of the abuse (as odd as that may sound to some people). I was met with a lot of sympathy, but little action was taken to react to what I was telling everyone. I did not go directly to the police because I did not trust them, which was a mistake but at the same time I think back then the police wouldn't have done much to help me either.

I was constantly afraid of my parents finding out that I was turning in AARC. They were still programmed (and still are), and when I had revealed to them all that went on outside of parent rap, they excused all of it believing it was all done for a good cause. If I continued to speak badly about AARC that meant I had "gone back" to my "past" and that I would relapse - "deadinsaneorinjail". I did not care if my parents disliked me, but I did fear that once again they would restrain me and drag me away, and I'd be in AARC for another year or more again. It was something I feared constantly through the rest of my teen years.

I have been thinking about the most "normal" of AARC parents, the ones who I am surprised ever bought into it. I had never had a true bond to my parents. I can not imagine how hard it must be to actually have love for your parents, and to fear at the same time them betraying you all over again, or turning against you entirely because you've abandoned AARC's ways. Even as an adult, if your family is programmed and you are not, you risk loosing the family you love entirely because you've been honest. That must be very hard for a lot of graduates.

If you look at former members of cults who's leader was exposed for having mislead them, and the group is dispersed, members usually question their beliefs and move on.

It is totally doable to to take action against the abuse you suffered or were aware of, and to remain secretive from your family. In time though, I hope nobody has to feel that way.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2007, 05:09:12 PM »
You have raised some VERY good points Mel. I can understand why survivors would speak out against AARC if their families were still believers in the program.

I don't understand why they wouldn't speak out though if their parents were not involved with AARC.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2007, 07:42:34 PM »
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You have raised some VERY good points Mel. I can understand why survivors would speak out against AARC if their families were still believers in the program.

I don't understand why they wouldn't speak out though if their parents were not involved with AARC.


There are very, very few youth who go in without parents or who's parents are kicked out yet they are trapped inside. However, I can tell you things I've observed and reason's I've been given by survivors.

Some people are just more likely to become programmed and not doubt the program, like for instance the people who make nasty posts here all the time defending Dean Vause. That's based on their personality, and also how vulnerable they are at the time they enter the program. If you are vulnerable, have no idea what your beliefs are in life, feel lost or alone, and are eager for people to accept you, then you are more likely to try to do everything you can do to get your group and staff to approve of you. Think about how many vulnerable 13 or 16 year olds you know who just want people to like and accept them.

Now for those who are NOT programmed and don't have family involved, you still have these things:

1) A HUGE mistrust in the system. You don't know who is connected to AARC, and who will tell on you. You've seen all these big fundraising events and so on, and it's hard to know who out there is for AARC and who will actually listen to you.

2) The fear of severing your relationship with your AARC family - in whom has been crucial to your survival. For every 1 person who you feel may have nearly killed you, there are 3 more who you feel you wouldn't have survived it without them. Those people are very important to you. We ALL had to mistreat one another, but we learn to see past that and become attached to each other despite that.

3) You don't want to "fight" or "sit in your shit". These are things we are programmed to believe. If we "fight" we are not being accepting. If we tell someone we were wronged we are blaming others for our problems and being whiners. That is so deeply engraved into AARC clients, and even though you may not follow AARC's ways and want nothing to do with them, it is very hard to shake that awful psychology from your head!

4) You just want to get away from it, and you fear that getting involved with something legally connected to AARC will put you back into the fight with them. That is the same reason why so many survivors read these forums but rarely post on the boards. They don't want to hear a response from the staff and feel like they're in a  Rap again.

5) Having done egressive therapy in Rap's has done psychological damage to you. Recalling the abuses in AARC out loud is similar to giving "incidents" in Rap, and you fear you'll be emotional while giving a statement. You don't want to be in that vulnerable and scary place again.

5) You fear that that authorities will harm you the way that AARC did.

6) You are ashamed of it and you don't want to be seen as abnormal. You don't want sympathy.

This list can go on and on. My sister for one will only speak about it occasionally. She remembers some unusual details and then has completely blocked out the rest.

We are talking about youth who have undergone a traumatic experience and who are taught to be afraid of support. Think of how many incest victims never turn in their abuser. The more personal work I've done to be able to speak about AARC like this, the more I've realized it's a very similar shame to sex abuse victims. And I can say that it is all a bunch of bull. There is no awful fate out there for people who speak up about it.
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