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« on: November 01, 2007, 03:49:24 PM »
If you were referred to a private residential treatment facility or specialty school or program by an educational consultant, parent resource company or even another parent and believe you were deceived, please consider taking a moment to address your concerns to the attention of the FTC person listed below.  

If you can, please provide any documentation to support your opinion as well as any other information you have that may be relevant to this issue.  You should also send a copy of your letter to Congressman Miller's office underscoring that it isn't just program owners and operators that should be investigated.

Thanks very much!

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Chairman Miller Asks FTC to Investigate Deceptive Marketing Practices by Residential Treatment Programs for Children

Tuesday, October 16, 2007

WASHINGTON, DC -- U.S. Rep. George Miller (D-CA), chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, today asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate allegations of deceptive marketing practices by residential treatment programs for troubled children.

Last week, the U.S. Government Accountability Office testified before the Education and Labor Committee that such programs – often called “boot camps,â€
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2007, 04:26:27 PM »
If there were any questions about Miller's bona fides, they're settled now.

THE MAN IS ON OUR SIDE, PEOPLE. He's also a Congressman. Don't expect him to stop acting like one.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2007, 04:36:40 PM »
This is great news - the 10 cases Miller sent to the FTC probably include at least 2 deaths of teens whose parents were referred by an ed consultant or a parent resource company.  Just hope the FTC does agree to investigate this issue.  Send those letters people!
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2007, 04:40:23 PM »
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If there were any questions about Miller's bona fides, they're settled now.

THE MAN IS ON OUR SIDE, PEOPLE. He's also a Congressman. Don't expect him to stop acting like one.


George Millers position has been clear from the beginning, it has not changed.  I think many people here got their nose out of joint because he didnt invite so called survivors to testify.  He is on a mission to insure that kids are not abused in facilities around the U.S. which operate under the names of Boot camps, wilderness and residential treatment centers.
It is clear that he expects the end result to be regulation defined for the industry.

You need to change your thinking that people are taking sides because the lines are not drawn that way, virtually everyone is on the side of protecting children from abuse.   The differences are in the approach and varying ways ways to accomplish this.  If you are for regulating the industry then this is the present path for George Miller.

Whether he uses survivor’s testimony or not should not affect your support for this effort.  Drop your petty squabbles and support the effort.  It is in the best interest of the kids.

Think about it!



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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2007, 04:45:23 PM »
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virtually everyone is on the side of protecting children from abuse.


It's retarded shit like this that makes you cross over into the land of 'half-funny' instead of 'serious threat', Who.

If virtually everyone was on the side of protecting children from abuse, Miller wouldn't have anything to do, Fornits would probably not exist, and you would be reduced to trolling program forums saying "could you please hurt the children more? It's not therapy unless they're being brutalized".
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2007, 04:48:58 PM »
Yup, so far Miller is covering all the bases which must be driving the ed cons and parents helping parents referral businesses nuts.  They have been flying under the radar far too long and I suspect, will soon find themselves running for cover if the FTC gets involved.  This is definitly a can of worms.
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2007, 05:27:16 PM »
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virtually everyone is on the side of protecting children from abuse.

It's retarded shit like this that makes you cross over into the land of 'half-funny' instead of 'serious threat', Who.

If virtually everyone was on the side of protecting children from abuse, Miller wouldn't have anything to do, Fornits would probably not exist, and you would be reduced to trolling program forums saying "could you please hurt the children more? It's not therapy unless they're being brutalized".


AAHHMM... Virtually meaning "almost" (Look here).  The serious threat are those who are abusing the kids, there are a very small minority who abuse kids but they make a major impact.  So virtually everyone is on the side of protecting children from abuse.



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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2007, 05:46:18 PM »
And this very small minority would include Mount Bachelor Academy, Thayer Learning Center, Turn-About Ranch, Academy at Swift River, Cedars Academy, Aspen Youth Care where Pitbull Mom's son got killed, Island View, damn near everyone else on NATSAP's site, everything connected to WWASPS, everything descended from CEDU that still uses their practices, everything descended from Straight that still uses their practices, Hidden Lake Academy, Whitmore Academy, ISAC's entire fucking watchlist, Daytop Village, and everything else I haven't named because I can't think of them all?

Yeah, Who- that's a pretty small minority all right. :roll:
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2007, 05:51:14 PM »
Oh yeah! I forgot the "Christian" programs like Roloff Homes and Hephzibah House. I don't even think you can argue for that, Who.

Anyone else care to show Who how small his minority is?
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2007, 05:51:37 PM »
Please do not respond to THE WHO.  He needs to go AWAY!
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2007, 05:56:15 PM »
Maybe, but sometimes (<-- KEY WORD) replying to his bullshit can lead the conversation to productive places. He walks right into Scholar's Mate and sometimes even Fool's Mate. Now he has to either try to bury the thread or play damage control trying to either claim that the named facilities are not abusive (won't work), derail the discussion some other way (not happening now) or ignore the thread in hopes of burying it.
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2007, 05:58:11 PM »
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And this very small minority would include Mount Bachelor Academy, Thayer Learning Center, Turn-About Ranch, Academy at Swift River, Cedars Academy, Aspen Youth Care where Pitbull Mom's son got killed, Island View, damn near everyone else on NATSAP's site, everything connected to WWASPS, everything descended from CEDU that still uses their practices, everything descended from Straight that still uses their practices, Hidden Lake Academy, Whitmore Academy, ISAC's entire fucking watchlist, Daytop Village, and everything else I haven't named because I can't think of them all?

Yeah, Who- that's a pretty small minority all right. :roll:


Just for grins lets define virtually as 99% of all people.  There are approximately 300 million people in the US so that would mean there are 3 million child abusers. chances are (statistically speaking) some of them would be in the programs you mentioned.  We already know they exist in our public school system.... so there are alot of them out there and they prey on our children.  
We need to set up ways to keep them out of the system.  If regulation is the answer then lets set the wheels in motion and move forward with it.



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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2007, 06:04:31 PM »
What's Nambla?
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2007, 06:47:33 PM »
What is NAMBLA? It's TheWho's favorite organization.
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