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Offline Nihilanthic

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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2007, 06:01:05 PM »
My point, were you not so damned defensive....

...is that we're lacking common sense in this day and age. We don't need a huge study with PhD's and millions of dollars to realize if someone is in pain they're not going to be very pleasant to deal with, and that in neglecting our children and then punishing them for acting out we're only treating the symptoms of the problem, being ourselves.

I am not having fun at their expense... if its at anyone's expense its that of the quack fucks who let both of them die.

You're new here. I'm not. Look at my post count. I've been here since 03. I'm only 22 and Ive done more than I could tell you without spending a lot of time to put an end to this... you only came here after your child died when the system took you for a ride and he paid with his life.

Keep that in mind.

I'm here for those dead kids, the living but abused kids, and  I'm here to keep anyone else from dying, and anyone else from being abused, not to make fun of dead children. I suggest you learn to read sarcasm and read into what I'm getting at before snapping, and for that matter registering an account so you can edit your mistakes!

At any rate, you should cool off. I'm the last person who would make fun of a dead child, especially one who died in such a horrible way.
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2007, 06:13:28 PM »
The issue is not medication IMO - it's about totally ignoring medical emergencies which, left untreated - result in death. I don't think anyone is disputing this fact  - This is about negligent homicide. End of story. No one should have die this way. PB mom, I'm sorry for your loss.
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2007, 06:34:04 PM »
Quote from: ""Nihilanthic""
My point, were you not so damned defensive....

...is that we're lacking common sense in this day and age. We don't need a huge study with PhD's and millions of dollars to realize if someone is in pain they're not going to be very pleasant to deal with, and that in neglecting our children and then punishing them for acting out we're only treating the symptoms of the problem, being ourselves.

I am not having fun at their expense... if its at anyone's expense its that of the quack fucks who let both of them die.

You're new here. I'm not. Look at my post count. I've been here since 03. I'm only 22 and Ive done more than I could tell you without spending a lot of time to put an end to this... you only came here after your child died when the system took you for a ride and he paid with his life.

Keep that in mind.

I'm here for those dead kids, the living but abused kids, and  I'm here to keep anyone else from dying, and anyone else from being abused, not to make fun of dead children. I suggest you learn to read sarcasm and read into what I'm getting at before snapping, and for that matter registering an account so you can edit your mistakes!

At any rate, you should cool off. I'm the last person who would make fun of a dead child, especially one who died in such a horrible way.

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*gasp* you mean kids with obstructed bowels who are in pain behave badly, and improve when they're not in pain?

OH SHIT STOP THE PRESSES

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Stupid people who throw pills around like snake oil in a snake oil convention at captive children are killing them.


I don't need to edit my post, and this doesn't seem like constructive sarcasm. These kids we are specifically talking about were not having behavior problems because of pain, their behavior issues surfaced well before the medical problems that came up later. Dealing with a child with a mental illness is heartbreaking. And then to have jokesters like you dishonoring them just leaves me speechless....
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2007, 06:36:48 PM »
I feel ya, pitbull mom. Never mind the bollocks.
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2007, 06:37:09 PM »
If they weren't forced to take meds that made them constipated, they wouldn't have died of constipation!

I am not "dishonoring" anyone, you're being defensive and whiny!
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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2007, 06:47:31 PM »
Bottom line is this girl died from complications that arose as a direct result of not being properly monitored for the MULTITUDE of drugs she was being forced to take.  

I do not agree the girl was properly diagnosed given her history of medication and the known behavioral, physical, mental and emotional side effects.

I do not believe this girl should have been institutionalized for behavior that was most likely exacerbated by the drugs she was forced to take but this is very common.  

I do belive she was let down by a lot of people.
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2007, 06:55:28 PM »
The issue is most certainly medication.  In this case, the child was overly medicated and under-monitored.  She died as a direct result of a condition caused by the use of medication which was not monitored properly.  Constipation left untreated can lead to life-threatening consequences.  The warning is on the label.  I hope program parents are paying attention. This is not happening in a vacuum.
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2007, 07:34:10 PM »
I think the Pharma industry will have much to answer for in the next decade when the truth comes out about the use of these drugs on young minds.  This was a social experiment that has benefited the drug companies at the expense of children who were used like guinea pigs.

Where is the outrage?

No child left UNMEDICATED.

We are a toxic, sick society.  Just say NO has become Just Say Yes.
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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2007, 09:42:42 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Bottom line is this girl died from complications that arose as a direct result of not being properly monitored for the MULTITUDE of drugs she was being forced to take.  

I do not agree the girl was properly diagnosed given her history of medication and the known behavioral, physical, mental and emotional side effects.

I do not believe this girl should have been institutionalized for behavior that was most likely exacerbated by the drugs she was forced to take but this is very common.  

I do belive she was let down by a lot of people.


So in short you are saying, "It takes a whole village to kill a kid."
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2007, 11:49:49 PM »
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I think the Pharma industry will have much to answer for in the next decade when the truth comes out about the use of these drugs on young minds.  This was a social experiment that has benefited the drug companies at the expense of children who were used like guinea pigs.

Where is the outrage?

No child left UNMEDICATED.

We are a toxic, sick society.  Just say NO has become Just Say Yes.


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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2007, 12:24:51 AM »
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If they weren't forced to take meds that made them constipated, they wouldn't have died of constipation!

I am not "dishonoring" anyone, you're being defensive and whiny!


You’re telling a woman whose kids died she’s being whiney?Youre bragging about how much you do for kids in programs, while this woman only got into it after her kid died?. You are some piece of work. Really, there are no words for slime like you.
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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2007, 01:06:49 AM »
Like it or not, the fact is children are being forced to take drugs that can cause serious side effects - in this case - constipation.  There are plenty of people who can and should be held accountable for failing to protect this child, not the least of which are the child's own family who may or may not have even been aware of the true risk these meds posed to this young girl's life.  My impression is the family was at the end of their rope and understandably, believed the doctors and hospital staff were trained to deal with any situation or emergency. Who can blame them for feeling that way?  I sure can't.  This was a preventable death beginning with the prescription and forced administration of the very drugs that caused the constipation in the first place.
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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2007, 01:15:41 AM »
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Like it or not, the fact is children are being forced to take drugs that can cause serious side effects - in this case - constipation.  There are plenty of people who can and should be held accountable for failing to protect this child, not the least of which are the child's own family who may or may not have even been aware of the true risk these meds posed to this young girl's life.  My impression is the family was at the end of their rope and understandably, believed the doctors and hospital staff were trained to deal with any situation or emergency. Who can blame them for feeling that way?  I sure can't.  This was a preventable death beginning with the prescription and forced administration of the very drugs that caused the constipation in the first place.


I wouldn't consider dragging the family through the judical mud over this mind you but it ought to definitely serve as an object lesson for all parents.

DON'T trust the damn meds or take a doctor's word for it. You see this sort of crap time and time again. By now one would hope parents would be a bit more wary of this sort of thing.

Given time one hopes the word gets out a bit farther on these incidents. Sad that it takes a life to make a point.
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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2007, 01:44:35 AM »
The average American lives in a bubble world of deferring to experts and generally not researching a god damned thing.

People can't change their wipers or headlights anymore for Christs sake.

We somehow need to publicize this! I'd think the right would be ALL over this... wanna see Hillarycareâ„¢?

THIS IS WHAT YOU GET TO LOOK FORWARD TO IF YOU DON'T STAND UP.
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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2007, 01:56:07 AM »
Whaddya mean look forward to it you daft gobshite? It is happening right now!
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