CCM girl 1989

[Anonymous]

CCM Girl is entitled to do whatever she chooses with her own life.

CCM Girl's behaviors that became so offensive was calling suvivors  WHINERS; showing outright support of people like Kevin August who REFERRED to abusive programs, like Magnolia Christian Aacademy; and the outrageous statement that sexually abused children "liked it."

Some people may have been put off by CCM Girl's shallow bragging about her collection of materialist "goodies"--her fancy house, pool, cars, horses, etc...as if she wanted to make SURE posters realized she'd married well, and was a "step above" the common poster.

The most telling of CCM Girl's 2 year posting saga; she ended up with only one friend, THE WHO.  Mentally, she's still "a controlled girl  whonever left HER PROGRAM."  She parrots THE WHO's nonsense   constantly. Like THE WHO, she changes her "story," attacks posters, downgrades survivors --CCM Girl simply lacks THE WHO's ability to write well, and to manipulate with words.  She's still too emotional; but THE WHO is training her well.

Thanks for the background on this piece of work known as "CCM girl 1989". I'd say these last 2 posts are a dead-on portrayal of her.

[Anonymous]

But, just know that I've moved on.

If this were true you wouldn't post here so often, or at all. How long have you been out of the program? Over a decade? Why are you even thinking about it if you have moved on? So long as you post on fornits, you have not moved on.

[Anonymous]

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Look, there is no denying that is how I felt 2 years ago. I stumbled upon Fornits, not thinking about any of my experiences for 15 whole years. I came here, and started reading everyones posts. I was outraged of the allegations of abuse. I believed everything that people were saying on here, and I wanted to go after them (WWASPS), I am not denying that.

"I was bored 2 years ago, had no friends, so I joined fornits and became a tool."

But, after I calmed down...took a look at the other side, took a long hard look at myself, I changed my mind.

"After I started taking my medication as prescribed and was hired by an edcon, I decided to begin trolling fornits and disrupting threads."

I don't feel that way anymore. I figured out some things, and quite frankly with how you all were acting (and still acting), I woke up real quick. I started thinking more, and more, I am not like the majority of people on here.

"I was getting upset with the truth and couldn't face my own painful experiences, so I decided to repress and deny them instead. The program taught me that anyone who "acts up" is bad. Plus, I got a huge bonus from private sources to keep my mouth shut like a good girl."

I am not anti-program. I am all for getting families, and teens on the right track. However that may be. I am not an ed con, and I don't refer families to schools/programs/treatment centers. I just see things differently.

"I've been bought and paid for, whether by the industry or the damage inflicted on me already in a program. Unless you are being flogged with whips and dipped in cauldron of molten lead - it's not abuse. Sex between staff and client is OK as long as the client *enjoyed* it."

People say that I am "Programmed" but, don't you think I would of come out of there preaching how great everything was, and yada, yada, yada if I was programmed? From the get go I would've been like the programs saved my life!!! It didn't happen that way though, did it?

"I was here intially because I cannot think for myself and whoever has the more persuasive argument will win me over - I will deny my own truth and my own experience & other program survivors have had."

I finally just realized that I felt differently about my experiences then most of you felt about yours. I stopped blaming everyone else. I took some responsibility for the things that got me sent there in the first place. And now, I sit here and wonder why, or how I said the things I did say in the first place.

"If it weren't for the programs I was in - I would be insanedeadorinjail - abuse saved my life - glory be to jesus.  & Basically, I am a tool - not a strong tool, but a weak one."

Was I a fucked up teenager? Yes. Did I need help? Yes. Was it the best help I could've gotten? No. Was home an option for me? No. Had I run out of options? Yes. Did I learn some things from the programs? Yes.

"I am very confused about my experiences but I will put a good spin on them because I'm not insanedeadorinjail. Why else could I possibly be OK?"

The one thing, that I will say, is that I was in there for too long. I think that hurt me. But, I'm not there anymore. It's nothing I will ever have to deal with again. It's called moving on folks. You're right, I can't tell you to just get over it. You will when your ready.

"You should just forget everything you've lived through, even though you carry those emotional scars and effects of PTSD EVERY SINGLE DAY. If you can pretend everything is alright, then it must be. & nevermind other kids who are going through the same thing right now - they too can forget (if they get out alive) after they trun 18 and leave - or runaway and hid like I had to."

But, the thing we disagree with the most, is that there are a lot of kids out there who come from families that are completely disfunctional. They do need help, and by you coming on here to say all programs are evil, and abusive doesn't help. By you posting porn, and saying rude crude stuff, doesn't help

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"I'm offended that you all don't just agree with me and constantly find ways to discredit me."

It's late. But, just know that I've moved on. I am not blaming everyone, and I am taking responsibility. I have run out of words. But, just know that this is coming from my heart. If you choose to attack me, whatever. At this point, I don't see how things could get any worse.

"I'm not leaving here - I'll be a troll forever. I'll tell those abused in programs they are just playing the victim card - & then play the victim card myself when the going gets rough."

This is classic...we need to harp on these points.

CCM girl, you're time is done here.

[Anonymous]

maybe this will work

[Covergaard]

The most telling of CCM Girl's 2 year posting saga; she ended up with only one friend, THE WHO.  Mentally, she's still "a controlled girl  whonever left HER PROGRAM."  She parrots THE WHO's nonsense   constantly. Like THE WHO, she changes her "story," attacks posters, downgrades survivors --CCM Girl simply lacks THE WHO's ability to write well, and to manipulate with words.  She's still too emotional; but THE WHO is training her well.

2 friends.

I respect her right to have her opinion.

I respect her regarding the need to do something, when a person is out of control. That is why we have courts. I 15 year old boy beat a man to his death last week in Aalborg and took a picture, which you properly can find on liveleak in a week or two. A 14 year old boy stabbed a man in Aarhus. It was the same boy who manage to close all kindergardens in the city by safety reasons for two weeks because he threw rocks at the children and they could not find a proper place for him. The 15 year old will properly receive a sentence of 10-16 years. The 14 year old will not be convicted because because people under 15 can not be tried in court, but they will keep him in the system until he is 18.

That is the things I respect.

We do not agree on some points, but I was not there when she was sent off. I dont know why she only were allowed home once. I dont know why she was kept in a facility, which on their homepage points out that teenagers only should be there when it is needed. I dont know why she was transferred to Cross Creek. I dont know why her family did not offer her to stay at their place sooner.

There is a lot of things, I dont know and I shouldn't know. There are a lot of things you dont know about me either.

I have been watching these treads for some time. We have to ask why we are here and what we hope to achieve.

Do we want to use our time bashing each other or should we life the carpet in the programs and show the world, what they are about?

Maybe there is a good program outthere. I don't know. But what I do know are that there is a lot in many programs, which need to be held out in the public where the general population can judge the treatment.

The GAO investigation was quoted not only in your country but also in other countries. A lot of those people who want boot camps, wilderness treatment in Europe could be smacked with the report. A television show like "Brat Camp" are just now sending the last broadcasts. The public are done with admiration of your system.

So dissagree with "CCM girl" or not. I dont care. But use your time better and go after the owners of various programs instead.

[Anonymous]

2 friends.

Sorry to hear that, Covergaard.

It's OK to voice another opinion - but she is a primary thread disrupter, along with TheWho.

[CCM girl 1989]

Now you guys are not very nice! I am not sure what to say? Uh, whatever accomplishments I have, whatever nice things I own, whatever good has come out of my life, has to do with letting go of the past.

I did not let that control me for very long. Initially, in the beginning, yes. But, then I had to take care of myself. Nobody cared about my troubled past. Most people don't even know someone who has been through a program. Very few can relate.

15 years later I stumbled upon this site like I said because I did move to a new area, where I did not know a soul. My life went from working 60-70 hour weeks, to 0. So, I had time to reflect. I wouldn't say I did not have any friends. My friends were only 2 hours away. Always available by phone, and since I wasn't working I spent most weekends in the bay area with my friends.

You think you know me so well, but you really don't. Talk all the shit you want about me, like you have been, ever since I disagreed with you on some things you said. That is fine.

When it comes down to it, I have been able to take responsibility for my actions. I have been able to forgive others for theirs. Like I said as far as emotional baggage goes, some of you need a uhaul to pack it around, while I am sporting a small overnight bag. I have my issues, but not like some of you who i believe to be deeply troubled.

The reason I brought up the seducing of male staff was to let others really understand the inside scoop on it. Not because I am proud of it. Back then it was a game. A game I regret playing.

I understand that some of you may need to twist my words. I understand I am a threat to this board. Otherwise, you could care less what I say. You wouldn't be deleting or changing my posts if you weren't threatened.

You obviously are.

[Anonymous]

CCM girl said

My comments will be changed anyway, it doesn't matter what I think, or what I have to say anymore.

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[Anonymous]

CCM girl's words - (I just had to post it twice!


My comments will be changed anyway, it doesn't matter what I think, or what I have to say anymore.

[Anonymous]

Now you guys are not very nice! I am not sure what to say? Uh, whatever accomplishments I have, whatever nice things I own, whatever good has come out of my life, has to do with letting go of the past.

I did not let that control me for very long. Initially, in the beginning, yes. But, then I had to take care of myself. Nobody cared about my troubled past. Most people don't even know someone who has been through a program. Very few can relate.

15 years later I stumbled upon this site like I said because I did move to a new area, where I did not know a soul. My life went from working 60-70 hour weeks, to 0. So, I had time to reflect. I wouldn't say I did not have any friends. My friends were only 2 hours away. Always available by phone, and since I wasn't working I spent most weekends in the bay area with my friends.

You think you know me so well, but you really don't. Talk all the shit you want about me, like you have been, ever since I disagreed with you on some things you said. That is fine.

When it comes down to it, I have been able to take responsibility for my actions. I have been able to forgive others for theirs. Like I said as far as emotional baggage goes, some of you need a uhaul to pack it around, while I am sporting a small overnight bag. I have my issues, but not like some of you who i believe to be deeply troubled.

The reason I brought up the seducing of male staff was to let others really understand the inside scoop on it. Not because I am proud of it. Back then it was a game. A game I regret playing.

I understand that some of you may need to twist my words. I understand I am a threat to this board. Otherwise, you could care less what I say. You wouldn't be deleting or changing my posts if you weren't threatened.

You obviously are.

& here's her post for posterity - just so you can see it isn't changed...

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't say I did not have any friends. My friends were only 2 hours away. Always available by phone, and since I wasn't working I spent most weekends in the bay area with my friends.

I don't even know you & just trusted my intuition you had no friends when I wrote that post - but you just proved it!!!!!

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

[Anonymous]

Now you guys are not very nice! I am not sure what to say? Uh, whatever accomplishments I have, whatever nice things I own, whatever good has come out of my life, has to do with letting go of the past.

I did not let that control me for very long. Initially, in the beginning, yes. But, then I had to take care of myself. Nobody cared about my troubled past. Most people don't even know someone who has been through a program. Very few can relate.

15 years later I stumbled upon this site like I said because I did move to a new area, where I did not know a soul. My life went from working 60-70 hour weeks, to 0. So, I had time to reflect. I wouldn't say I did not have any friends. My friends were only 2 hours away. Always available by phone, and since I wasn't working I spent most weekends in the bay area with my friends.

You think you know me so well, but you really don't. Talk all the shit you want about me, like you have been, ever since I disagreed with you on some things you said. That is fine.

When it comes down to it, I have been able to take responsibility for my actions. I have been able to forgive others for theirs. Like I said as far as emotional baggage goes, some of you need a uhaul to pack it around, while I am sporting a small overnight bag. I have my issues, but not like some of you who i believe to be deeply troubled.

The reason I brought up the seducing of male staff was to let others really understand the inside scoop on it. Not because I am proud of it. Back then it was a game. A game I regret playing.

I understand that some of you may need to twist my words. I understand I am a threat to this board. Otherwise, you could care less what I say. You wouldn't be deleting or changing my posts if you weren't threatened.

You obviously are.

[Anonymous]

I understand that some of you may need to twist my words. I understand I am a threat to this board. Otherwise, you could care less what I say.

CCMgirl thinks she's a threat? :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

[Anonymous]

Now you guys are not very nice! I am not sure what to say? Uh, whatever accomplishments I have, whatever nice things I own, whatever good has come out of my life, has to do with letting go of the past.

I did not let that control me for very long. Initially, in the beginning, yes. But, then I had to take care of myself. Nobody cared about my troubled past. Most people don't even know someone who has been through a program. Very few can relate.

15 years later I stumbled upon this site like I said because I did move to a new area, where I did not know a soul. My life went from working 60-70 hour weeks, to 0. So, I had time to reflect. I wouldn't say I did not have any friends. My friends were only 2 hours away. Always available by phone, and since I wasn't working I spent most weekends in the bay area with my friends.

You think you know me so well, but you really don't. Talk all the shit you want about me, like you have been, ever since I disagreed with you on some things you said. That is fine.

When it comes down to it, I have been able to take responsibility for my actions. I have been able to forgive others for theirs. Like I said as far as emotional baggage goes, some of you need a uhaul to pack it around, while I am sporting a small overnight bag. I have my issues, but not like some of you who i believe to be deeply troubled.

The reason I brought up the seducing of male staff was to let others really understand the inside scoop on it. Not because I am proud of it. Back then it was a game. A game I regret playing.

I understand that some of you may need to twist my words. I understand I am a threat to this board. Otherwise, you could care less what I say. You wouldn't be deleting or changing my posts if you weren't threatened.

You obviously are.

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[Anonymous]

CCM girl's words - (I just had to post it twice!


it doesn't matter what I think, or what I have to say anymore.

EXACTLY.