CCM CUNT SEDUCES MALE STAFF AND LAUGHS?

[CCM girl 1989]

You, and I have one thing in common. I have never been called a liar outside of my programs. i admit I do still have a tendency to manipulate to get what I want. And everyone knows how god damn funny I am.

[TheWho]

You're emotionally defending programs and relying on argumentative ploys instead of facts to back up your assertions.

Who is the programmed one here? Why not prove what you say instead of give nonsensical generalities and say we're saying kids should be allowed to hurt people?

Hey , you keep asking others, why dont you show some proof?

I've reposted enough, and the burden of proof is on them to prove programs work anyway!

They've had 30 years... what gives? If they're so good, show something!

That also is irrelevant to the issue of ethics, morals, and their rights as children, or the nonsensical model of treating problems by ignoring them and forcing completion of a B.M. Curriculum supplemented with LGATs.

Quite frankly, programs are absurd, and the only thing CCMgirl can pull out of her ass is "they're not ALL bad!" (with no proof, or anything more than a false middle fallacy as a crutch) or "WELL YOU DON'T OFFER ALTERNATIVES WTF YOURE SAYING LET THEM HURT PEOPLE?

Honestly... most people with troubled kids do fine without programs. Statistics don't LIE. There are tons of alternatives, and I don't feel like copying and pasting everything deb has posted for years just for CCM.

Put up, or shut up, and see the sig.

You show us nothing,  if you think the schools are ineffective produce some evidence, some data that suggests 20,000 kids a year suffer in these places.  The fact remains that they dont.... you spin off and go nuts and start posting porn because a couple of people push your buttons and you dont have the education or grammar to defend your position thru dialog yet in the same breath boast of a 146 I.Q..  (whats up with that?)

You have no evidence, you just beat up on people like CCM who tell a different truth than you want to believe.

This is nothing more than a dumping grounds for your anger and hatred, you have no ties to this industry what so ever, so pick a sight like KKK or NAACP to beat up on and leave survivors like CCM and my daughter off your list.

[CCM girl 1989]

Amen!

[Dr.Zaius]

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[Anne Bonney]

You show us nothing,  if you think the schools are ineffective produce some evidence, some data that suggests 20,000 kids a year suffer in these places.  

NO!!!!!    YOU are the one screaming about how "successful" programs are.  PROVE IT.    The burden of proof is on YOU!!!!   YOU say they're successful.  SHOW ME!    Studies.   Long term, clinical studies.....not anecdotal evidence.

The fact remains that they dont.... you spin off and go nuts and start posting porn because a couple of people push your buttons and you dont have the education or grammar to defend your position thru dialog yet in the same breath boast of a 146 I.Q..  (whats up with that?)

You have no idea who I am or what my life is about.    You start fucking around with a kid's psyche and you're gonna do some serious fucking damage.  You force or coerce "treatment" on someone......you're asking for trouble.

You have no evidence, you just beat up on people like CCM who tell a different truth than you want to believe.  This is nothing more than a dumping grounds for your anger and hatred, you have no ties to this industry what so ever, so pick a sight like KKK or NAACP to beat up on and leave survivors like CCM and my daughter off your list.

I call CCM girl on some of the moronic shit she says.  Lately I've been ragging her on the fact that she thinks its OK for a staff member to have a sexual relationship with a patient as long as the patient agrees and thinks the staff is hot.  Then she completely mocked survivors who actually have been sexually abused bey staff.   I have a major problem with that and I said so.  In emphatic terms.  Again, I guess I'm an asshole that way.

[TheWho]

You show us nothing,  if you think the schools are ineffective produce some evidence, some data that suggests 20,000 kids a year suffer in these places.  

NO!!!!!    YOU are the one screaming about how "successful" programs are.  PROVE IT.    The burden of proof is on YOU!!!!   YOU say they're successful.  SHOW ME!    Studies.   Long term, clinical studies.....not anecdotal evidence.

The fact remains that they dont.... you spin off and go nuts and start posting porn because a couple of people push your buttons and you dont have the education or grammar to defend your position thru dialog yet in the same breath boast of a 146 I.Q..  (whats up with that?)

You have no idea who I am or what my life is about.    You start fucking around with a kid's psyche and you're gonna do some serious fucking damage.  You force or coerce "treatment" on someone......you're asking for trouble.

You have no evidence, you just beat up on people like CCM who tell a different truth than you want to believe.  This is nothing more than a dumping grounds for your anger and hatred, you have no ties to this industry what so ever, so pick a sight like KKK or NAACP to beat up on and leave survivors like CCM and my daughter off your list.

I call CCM girl on some of the moronic shit she says.  Lately I've been ragging her on the fact that she thinks its OK for a staff member to have a sexual relationship with a patient as long as the patient agrees and thinks the staff is hot.  Then she completely mocked survivors who actually have been sexually abused bey staff.   I have a major problem with that and I said so.  In emphatic terms.  Again, I guess I'm an asshole that way.

Ha,Ha,Ha,  you should look at my post again, calm down, I was talking to niles.

TheNewWho

[CCM girl 1989]

I mocked survivors who were sexually abused by staff members? That's not true!

[Anonymous]

Every single code of psychiatric, psychological and counseling ethics bars relationships between therapists and patients -- EVEN WHEN THE PATIENTS ARE OUTPATIENT AND BOTH PARTIES ARE ADULTS!!!!

When the situation is inpatient, the patient is not free to leave and the patient is a minor, there is absolutely no question that it is legally and ethically considered abuse even the if patient actually seduced the counselor/psychologist/psychiatrist/therapist.

You can sue even if the affair was consensual because due to the power dynamics, by the fact of its existence, such a relationship is an abuse of power.  

While it's good that CCM girl doesn't feel that this was harmful to her, the fact is, it is abuse and could result in a successful malpractice judgment if there was proof of it having happened in any therapeutic relationship, even if both parties were adults.

This just shows, again, why amateurs should not be allowed to run residential programs.  At least unethical professionals in this situation would know they were doing something wrong-- but according to Ken Kay, these relationships *aren't* always wrong (at least so he testified in court).

[Che Gookin]

Yet if you look clearly you don't see CCM Girl saying such a relationship is appropriate. She stated clearly she felt such a relationship was wrong.. Just not rape.

This is what I love about fornits..

100 percent bullshit 100 percent of the time.

[try another castle]

Yet if you look clearly you don't see CCM Girl saying such a relationship is appropriate. She stated clearly she felt such a relationship was wrong.. Just not rape.

This is what I love about fornits..

100 percent bullshit 100 percent of the time.

I agree with this, actually. Rape can't be consensual.

[Ursus]

Yet if you look clearly you don't see CCM Girl saying such a relationship is appropriate. She stated clearly she felt such a relationship was wrong.. Just not rape.

This is what I love about fornits..

100 percent bullshit 100 percent of the time.

I agree with this, actually. Rape can't be consensual.

Define consensual.

If you are brainwashed for a few years into thinking your therapists/teachers are God and that you must obey them, and they take advantage of that inherent authority dynamic, is that really consensual?

[Anonymous]

Cult leaders get all the pussy.

Hell with it. I've got the credentials they're looking for (e.g. none). Where can I sign up to get me some of this?

[Che Gookin]

What boggles the mind is CCM Girl has repeatedly stated she doesn't believe sexual interactions between staff and client are appropriate.

Yet here on fornits we need to have a big drama blast and flame her because she doesn't believe she was raped?

Again.. Bullshit 100 percent of the time..

[Anonymous]

I suggest that fornits posters get in contact with the other girls that were in Cross Creek Manor with CCM and see if what she says is true or not. She wasn't the only one that was there. Different people have different experiences so ask around and see what you find, you might be surprised.

[hanzomon4]

What boggles the mind is CCM Girl has repeatedly stated she doesn't believe sexual interactions between staff and client are appropriate.

Yet here on fornits we need to have a big drama blast and flame her because she doesn't believe she was raped?

Again.. Bullshit 100 percent of the time..

No one is saying CCM was raped(she never said that[Edit:I see the guest post, CCM never claimed to have had a sexual relationship with a staff member]). She did say that it was not rape if the "girl enjoyed it", legally that is not true. That statement is not true according to everything that is known about sexual predictors. sexual predictors groom, seduce, victims and often at the time of the assault the victim does feel genuine feelings of love, or something similar, for the attacker. However this has been proven beyond a doubt that this is just another part of sexual predation of children.

Just to add legally a child or someone not of sound mind can not consent.

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