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Offline CCM girl 1989

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« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2007, 03:08:23 PM »
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In public schools children can leave.

In programs they can not.

So why all the sexual abuse at schools?

There really isn't that much. Learn to read statistics.

The VAST MAJORITY of kids in public schools are not sexually abused.

The VAST MAJORITY of kids in private schools and progams are not sexually abused either, and the hard numbers will  probably show a significantly lower rate in the private sector as compared to public school.



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I agree with this statement made by Who.
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« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2007, 03:09:28 PM »
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Hey I'M 22!

 :P



Not that there's anything wrong with that.


:rofl:



I keed, I keed.  Some of the best people I know are 22, including my oldest daughter.

(CCM, you haven't been paying attention.  I don't know how many times I've bored everyone here with my story, which includes me being the parent of two grown children.  That should give you some indication of my approximate age)
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« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2007, 03:11:21 PM »
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In public schools children can leave.

In programs they can not.

So why all the sexual abuse at schools?

There really isn't that much. Learn to read statistics.

The VAST MAJORITY of kids in public schools are not sexually abused.

The VAST MAJORITY of kids in private schools and progams are not sexually abused either, and the hard numbers will  probably show a significantly lower rate in the private sector as compared to public school.



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I agree with this statement made by Who.


Ok, that's neither here nor there. MOST kids in programs are not killed either.

But one abused sexually is too many. One killed is too many.

One abused AT ALL is too many. Defending rates of sexual abuse given the inherently bullshit and abusive nature of programs is like defending Tranquility Bay on the merits of having an oceanfront view through their bars and fences.
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« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2007, 03:17:12 PM »
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You have got to be kidding!!  Okay what do we have, 1 or 2 kids who were sexually assaulted in programs  in the past 30 years…….

Alright then, let's conduct a small poll, who here was sexually assaulted while in a program within the last 30 years?


Me for one.


Alright, for those who aren't here to speak for themselves:
J.
J.
C.
G.
A.
E.

These are six other girls that I know were sexually assaulted in the program I was in. I have almost no contact with grads, so no way of knowing how many more there might be.

And here's the thing, not one of these girls reported it to the police. First of all, we weren't allowed to, but more importantly we were convinced that no one would believe us as we were manipulating "druggies".
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« Reply #49 on: October 23, 2007, 03:17:16 PM »
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Does it count if you enjoyed it?!!



That's a really shitty thing to say, especially in this context.


Fuck you, you little shit.


I'm totally serious. It was wrong of him, but I didn't mind it since he was HOT! So, does that count?!! There were a few of us in there that thought some of the men around us were very handsome, and flirted hard with them. Does that make it wrong for the male staff since we welcomed it? A lot of people on this board feel like that no matter what any contact with a student is wrong, and I'm not sure I agree with that?

Sorry that my comment upset you Anne. But, do you feel like all advances from staff to student are considered to be sexual abuse?
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« Reply #50 on: October 23, 2007, 03:21:28 PM »
Anne,

I would agree with you that more then likely your story did bore me, and that's why I don't remember it. I didn't need you to repeat your story again, I just asked what your age was, that's all.
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« Reply #51 on: October 23, 2007, 03:25:50 PM »
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Students in America's schools are groped. They're raped. They're pursued, seduced and think they're in love.

"Kids, like, idolized me because they thought I was, like, cool because he paid more attention to me," says Kline, now 18, sitting at her mother's kitchen table, sorting through a file of old poems and cards from Mansfield. "I was just like really comfortable. I could tell him anything."

He never pushed her, just raised the stakes, bit by bit — a comment about how good she looked, a gift, a hug.

She was sure she was in love.


CCM are you dumb, or just ignorant?

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« Reply #52 on: October 23, 2007, 03:28:16 PM »
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I'm totally serious. It was wrong of him, but I didn't mind it since he was HOT! So, does that count?!! There were a few of us in there that thought some of the men around us were very handsome, and flirted hard with them. Does that make it wrong for the male staff since we welcomed it? A lot of people on this board feel like that no matter what any contact with a student is wrong, and I'm not sure I agree with that?

Sorry that my comment upset you Anne. But, do you feel like all advances from staff to student are considered to be sexual abuse?



I have absolutely no idea how to respond to this.  You're serious?  Really?   Well, at least it explains a lot.   Holy shit!  



PLEASE tell me you don't have children.
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« Reply #53 on: October 23, 2007, 03:39:31 PM »
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I'm totally serious. It was wrong of him, but I didn't mind it since he was HOT! So, does that count?!! There were a few of us in there that thought some of the men around us were very handsome, and flirted hard with them. Does that make it wrong for the male staff since we welcomed it? A lot of people on this board feel like that no matter what any contact with a student is wrong, and I'm not sure I agree with that?

Sorry that my comment upset you Anne. But, do you feel like all advances from staff to student are considered to be sexual abuse?



Let's ask you buddy The Who.  Who, what would you think of some of the staff banging your daughter?  Would it be OK?  I mean, if she thought they were "hot"?    That'd be fine with you, right?  I mean afterall, she consented.  Right?  No problem there.  No crossing any boundaries.  Its just sex between two consenting adul.....wait.....what?


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« Reply #54 on: October 23, 2007, 03:42:52 PM »
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« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2007, 03:49:41 PM »
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I'm totally serious. It was wrong of him, but I didn't mind it since he was HOT! So, does that count?!! There were a few of us in there that thought some of the men around us were very handsome, and flirted hard with them. Does that make it wrong for the male staff since we welcomed it? A lot of people on this board feel like that no matter what any contact with a student is wrong, and I'm not sure I agree with that?

Sorry that my comment upset you Anne. But, do you feel like all advances from staff to student are considered to be sexual abuse?


Let's ask you buddy The Who.  Who, what would you think of some of the staff banging your daughter?  Would it be OK?  I mean, if she thought they were "hot"?    That'd be fine with you, right?  I mean afterall, she consented.  Right?  No problem there.  No crossing any boundaries.  Its just sex between two consenting adul.....wait.....what?


:roll:  ::noway::



From CCM’s vantage point there was no wrong doing because she enjoyed it and therefore would not report it to authorities because she thought it was okay or maybe felt responsible because she might have lead the person on, I don’t know this.

But from the staff’s point of view, he was wrong, and should have gone to jail.  He had a responsibility to protect CCM from herself, at the time, because he was in the power position.  If after CCM left the school and they were the proper age then it would have been okay.
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« Reply #56 on: October 23, 2007, 03:51:17 PM »
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From CCM’s vantage point there was no wrong doing because she enjoyed it and therefore would not report it to authorities because she thought it was okay or maybe felt responsible because she might have lead the person on, I don’t know this.

But from the staff’s point of view, he was wrong, and should have gone to jail.  He had a responsibility to protect CCM from herself, at the time, because he was in the power position.  If after CCM left the school and they were the proper age then it would have been okay.



Just answer the question!!!   How would YOU feel about some staffer banging your daughter while under his care?  That OK with you or do you see some line that has been crossed?
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« Reply #57 on: October 23, 2007, 03:57:15 PM »
Or, how about sending the house/dorm father up to the lockup room to paddle girls who by the way are not wearing anything but a t-shirt and undies.  He was not attractive, but even if he had been it wouldn't have been ok.  CCM are you such a mental midgit that you actually are defending abusers?
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« Reply #58 on: October 23, 2007, 03:59:57 PM »
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From CCM’s vantage point there was no wrong doing because she enjoyed it and therefore would not report it to authorities because she thought it was okay or maybe felt responsible because she might have lead the person on, I don’t know this.

But from the staff’s point of view, he was wrong, and should have gone to jail.  He had a responsibility to protect CCM from herself, at the time, because he was in the power position.  If after CCM left the school and they were the proper age then it would have been okay.


Just answer the question!!!   How would YOU feel about some staffer banging your daughter while under his care?  That OK with you or do you see some line that has been crossed?


From a fathers perspective, I will definitely have a tough time with that, even after she is married!!  Ask your husband how he feels.
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« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2007, 04:00:58 PM »
I didn't say I got fucked! Stop assuming the worst. I am being 100% serious. I never knew one girl during the 4 1/2 years in my 3 different placements that were raped, or got in your words got banged!

I was not the type of girl that kept to herself either. I kept up on all the latest gossip. Besides news like that spreads quick. Us girls would brag about getting these poor guys to cross the line. Sometimes we'd do it just o see them get fired, and laugh about it.

I will however admit there was a few girls that fooled around with staff. But, like I said before, it was always a situation where the girl was wanting it. I never saw it happen the other way to where a male staff was forcing himself upon a student.

If parents are afraid of this happening to their daughters while attending RTC's, then send them to a place where there are no male staff members whatsoever. While you are at it, chain her knees together. Also you have to remember a lot of times these girls are 16/17 and male staff are in their early 20's. That's bound to present problems for a program.


BTW, I don't want kids.
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