Well If A.A meetings haveing going on since back when Bill W started them, and A.A.R.C does nothing but teach that same thing I dont see how its brainwashing, I could not see what I had done you may as well of called me a sociopath, it was only by people working with me and beging to feel that I could relize, Ya I relapsed twice but that was a few years ago now, and Ive learned my lesson so Im well now, nut I needed to go out and learn for myself, that I could use like others, but I could never use the same, Cuz I could see what it was doing 2 me and how I just stop caring, Sober my life is really well and does nothing but move forward in great directions and attracts great thing and people, I dont keep in much contact with aarc much anymore its been a long time now since I graduated, but I do try 2 attend the galla and stampede breakfasts, Yes my parents and step parents and brother we all in it, I did not experiece any such abuse I have been seeing on this, Im not conviced it saved my life but it gave me the tools to save my own, and to make my own choices...and to figure out how I wanted 2 live. And I chose the good life.