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Offline Anonymous

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If it's so easy
« on: October 12, 2007, 06:33:07 PM »
...and if you ex addicts or ex lovers of addicts or current addicts, or AARC hater alike, have ALL the ANSWERS (cuz you just don't shut up)  and it's so easy to 'get away' with being such a Fraud as you all call everyone in the AARC building.

Why don't you get off your asses and open your own recovery facility.  I mean if all your accusations are true, and anyone with a mail in degree can do it, surely you would get much better results and cure the world...
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2007, 06:35:52 PM »
they can't do that silly!  cuz

there is no such thing as addiction in their eyes...

don't take away their junk!  God forbid!

Leave them alone on here. They really only have each other.  Only 10 or so regulars on here that like to whine on about all the bad things that their addiction brought on in their lives, but blames others for it.

Let them whine, and bitch and point fingers and whatever, they're not really getting anywhere anyway!

:-)
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2007, 06:48:46 PM »
First you need some really crazy assholes who will hold the religious ceremonies in their basement.  Then you need a few fucked-up creeps to work at the facility.  You also need a scumbag to line up the money.  It also helps to have a trough-slurper like inthe legislature pretending that you are legit so that you can grab at some Provincial money too.  Tell a few lies in report magazine to get some media attention.  Throw in some truly sad, sick people like the parents, and you are off and running.
But you have to be a psychopath who is willing to take money from anyone, any time, and lie to people's faces. That last one is the tough one.  There is only a small percentage of folks who fit that particular bill.  Lucky for you AARColytes, you found one!
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If it's so easy
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2007, 07:14:29 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
they can't do that silly!  cuz

there is no such thing as addiction in their eyes...

don't take away their junk!  God forbid!

Leave them alone on here. They really only have each other.  Only 10 or so regulars on here that like to whine on about all the bad things that their addiction brought on in their lives, but blames others for it.

Let them whine, and bitch and point fingers and whatever, they're not really getting anywhere anyway!

:-)


Is that you, Stephen Harper?, Or culd it be Stock?
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2007, 12:55:51 AM »
I don't imagine drug treatment is easy.

But as long as you follow these guidelines you should be able to operate a 24 hour program:

The facility is not licensed.

Verbal and/or written communication between the child and his parents, siblings, grandparents, etc. is prohibited, restricted, or monitored on any level.


The facility requires that the parents and/or child sign a form releasing the program of liability in the event of injury to the child.


The program requests/demands/recommends that they have legal custody of children.


The program requires that children live in foster or "host" homes instead of allowing them to reside with their parents.


The child or parent or forbidden from discussing the daily happenings at the facility. Often this policy is called "confidentiality."


The child is denied access to a telephone.


Phone calls between children and parents are monitored.


The program uses confrontational therapy.


Parents must fulfill requirements of the facility before being permitted to visit their own children.


The facility is located outside the jurisdiction of the United States.


Children are restrained or otherwise physically prevented from leaving the facility.


The staff includes former students/clients of the facility.


Staff members claim that self-injury or cutting/carving on ones body is normal behavior for a child in treatment.


Parents are not allowed to remain with their child during the entire intake/entry process.


The program inflicts physical punishments on children such as exercising for extended periods of time, bizarre cleaning rituals (ie scrubbing floors with a toothbrush) or food restrictions.


The program uses humiliation to "break them down."


The program forces children to remain in solitary confinement/isolation/time-out for an unspecified amount of time.


The facility considers homosexuality to be a behavioral problem.


The facility claims to be able to "treat" homosexuality.


Reading materials are prohibited or severely limited.


The facility does not have a clearly visible sign outside the building or descriptions of their location are vague.


The facility claims to modify behavior, yet has no licensed therapists on staff.


A licensed doctor or registered nurse is not present at any time during normal operating hours.


Current clients/students participate in the intake/entry process.


Staff members offer to help parents obtain a court order forcing the child into, or keeping the child in, the facility.


Children are observed while bathing, dressing, or using the toilet on any level of the program.


The facility claims to treat drug abuse, but does not conduct a drug screen prior to entry.


The facility does not allow children to follow their religion of choice.


Staff members must "approve" family members, siblings, friends, or employment.


Children are not afforded an education in accordance with state requirements.


Medication is recommended, prescribed, approved, or dispensed by anyone other than a medical doctor (MD).


Children are denied medications that have been prescribed by an MD.


Staff members, admissions personnel, referrers, etc. make statements indicating that "your child will die without" the program.


Children escort/supervise other children.


Children have to "earn" the "right" to speak during group/therapy sessions.


Children are denied outside activities on any level/phase.


Staff members must approve the withdrawal of children from the facility.


The facility expects total and unquestioned support of parents.


Children on any level/phase are forbidden to speak to other children in the facility.


The facility will not disclose the names of any doctors or therapists on staff prior to the child's admittance into the program.
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Offline Anne Bonney

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Re: If it's so easy
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2007, 12:02:45 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
...and if you ex addicts or ex lovers of addicts or current addicts, or AARC hater alike, have ALL the ANSWERS (cuz you just don't shut up)  and it's so easy to 'get away' with being such a Fraud as you all call everyone in the AARC building.

No, unlike AARC no one here claims to have "the answer".  Cuz there isn't one.  AARC likes to pretend they have "it", but there isn't any ONE answer.



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Why don't you get off your asses and open your own recovery facility.  I mean if all your accusations are true, and anyone with a mail in degree can do it, surely you would get much better results and cure the world...


You people are the only ones arrogant enough to believe in that shit.  Curing the world.   :roll:  :roll:

 




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