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« on: October 09, 2007, 10:39:54 PM »
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Internet Law Internet Defamation

The law of Defamation has come under renewed scrutiny with the advent of the Internet. This is largely because it is the nature of the Internet to give the average, anonymous person an opportunity to express their opinion well-beyond any previously defined venue. Consider the fact that a person of modest means now has the ability to publish a statement, article, or news item across the world in an instant, without an editor checking the facts. Thereafter, the item will linger on the 'Net for months, or even years, impossible to recover and amend, if the "facts" are erroneous. Therefore, it is inevitable that problems are going to arise.

The main issue to remember when dealing with the Internet is that people still have their basic legal rights intact on the Net, and - likewise - the Internet is not as completely anonymous as the typical person may presumes.

What is Defamation?

The law of defamation has been defined in the West for centuries, and the Internet variety holds to that same basic outline with a few twists. Defamation is the act of making an untrue statement to a third party that damages the subject's reputation. There are several subcategories of Defamation, being Libel and Slander. Libel is Defaming in a printed forum, such as a newspaper or magazine. Slander is spoken Defamation, and could be made person-to-person, or also broadcast over a radio or television.

Technically, Defamation actionable at law follows this schema:

1. A false and defamatory statement regarding another;
2. Unprivileged publication of the claim to a third party;
3. Rising, in the case of matters of public concern, to at least negligence by the publisher, or worse; and
4. Damages to the subject.

Generally, persons defined as "Public Figures," have a higher threshold in proving someone committed Defamation against them; that is, the statement must have been made maliciously. There are also four subjects that if falsely dispersed as a fact about another person, are actionable on their face: Attacking a person's professional character /standing; Alleging an unmarried person is unchaste; Claims a person is infected with a sexually transmitted, or loathsome disease; Claims a person has committed a crime of moral turpitude.

Is Internet Defamation Defined as Slander, Libel or Both?

Until the recent development of "podcasts," and other types of online videos such as those featured on YouTube, Defamation on the Internet was largely deigned Libel. But whether an online case of accused Defamation should fall under either category of Libel or Slander will not be nearly as meaningful as whether the activity satisfies the basic Defamation criteria, as defined above. What is most important is to focus upon the actual statement, whether verbal or written, that a plaintiff claims is defamatory.A recently filed case illustrates the application of a libel claim in a blogging case in NY, Stuart Pivar v. Seed Media, 2007cv07334, Filed August 16, 2007, in New York Southern District Court. Seed Media pays PZ Myers to blog at ScienceBlogs.com, and there he reviewed a book by Dr. Stuart Pivar, called "LifeCode: The Theory of Biological Self Organization" which purports to reconfigure Darwinian Evolution.
Myers claimed Pivar is a "classic crackpot" on his http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula website.

In response, the lawsuit complaint states, "Myer's defamatory remarks were made with actual malice; Myers called Plaintiff "a classic crackpot" fully knowing that statement to be false as a statement of fact and in reckless disregard of the truth about Plaintiff because Myer's knew full well, the time of publishing his defamatory statement that no scientist holding the international reputation of any of Hazen, Sasselov, Goodwin or Tyson would endorse or review the work of a crackpot."

The complaint claims Myers caused "considerable mental and emotional distress," tortious interference with the plaintiff's business relationships as a "scientist and scientific editor," and "loss of book sales and diminished returns on ten years of funded scientific research in special damages" exceeding $5 million.The suits asks for: declaratory relief to remove defamatory statements from the web and an injunction to block further libel; $5 million in special damages for "tortious interference with business relations"; and $10 million in damages for defamation, emotional distress, and loss of reputation.This lawsuit well illustrates the libelous cause, effect and damages of a proper tort case based upon defamation.

Can a Blog Be Sued for Defamation; Isn't It All Free Speech?

This is a knotty issue, but a short answer would be, generally, that a blog owner whose blog has published obnoxious materials can be held harmless while a blogger using the site can be liable. The Communications Decency Act of 1996 is a protector of blog owners. It states, in section 230, that it "precludes courts from entertaining claims that would place a computer service provider in a publisher's role." As to how the court sees blogs, in general, overall, the US Supreme Court has ruled that blogs are similar to news groups, saying "in the context of defamation law, the rights of the institutional media are no greater and no less than those enjoyed by other individuals and organizations engaged in the same activities."

For bloggers, all Defamation legal rules apply to their posts. But there are many complications in applying them. First, many people who post online comments, and probably those tending to make the most inflammatory and false statements, will do so anonymously, for obvious reasons. So the first threshold is identifying the blogger making Defamatory claims. Several things make this difficult, as well. Since the blogger probably will not identify themselves when the issue comes to light, there needs to be a legal process that allows identification. They can be traced by high-tech means, but a court must agree via summary judgment that all the elements of Defamation have been met. This technology does have some limits, as well, as it can be stymied through use of "Proxies," which mask the true origin of the blogger. Also, the website owner may not cooperate in the search, as well.

A recent case showed how powerful Defamation laws, applied online, can be. In November 2006, a Florida woman, Sue Scheff, was awarded $11.3 million in damages in Broward County Circuit Court, in one of the biggest awards ever tolled. The suit was filed for Internet defamation, and the jury found a Louisiana woman had posted caustic messages against the Scheff and her company, claiming she was a "con artist" and "fraud". The jury found the charges were completely false, so the Louisiana woman had no defense. Interestingly, Scheff's attorney had offered to settle the case for $35,000 before it went before the jury.

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It's my understanding the defendant didn't not show up for her trial (which doesn't appear to be mentioned in this article that I can see) so how could a jury find the charges "completely false"?  

Honestly, this is not making a lot of sense to me.  But, I am not a lawyer.

Anybody know where I can get a copy of this article?  The blog owner (Scheff) doesn't seem to provide a link to the source of the article in her blog.

Thank you.
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2007, 10:45:47 PM »
http://ibls.com/cs/blogs/internet_law/a ... ation.aspx

Interesting, I don't see the last paragraph about Scheff in this article, does anyone else?
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2007, 11:18:23 PM »
Probably added another section to the first one?  I don't know, it's hard to tell without Scheff adding a link to her source for the entire article as published on her blog.

It does seem rather odd that there is no mention that Bock didn't show up for her trial.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2007, 11:52:57 PM »

















































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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2007, 12:00:26 AM »
Sorry, folks, my fault for this flooding... I think I pushed Niles over the edge...excessive logic overload.

I will take the bullet for the Pig & frog flooding.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2007, 12:06:44 AM »
Actually, the picture scrolling is a widely-used tactic to call attention to something that needs calling attention to.

Like your treatment of children, however child porn is illegal.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2007, 12:51:25 AM »
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Sorry, folks, my fault for this flooding... I think I pushed Niles over the edge...excessive logic overload.

I will take the bullet for the Pig & frog flooding.


Click the picture  :wink:
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2007, 01:10:56 AM »
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Sorry, folks, my fault for this flooding... I think I pushed Niles over the edge...excessive logic overload.


Just because you say you use logic doesn't actually mean you do.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2007, 01:33:00 AM »
So, according to this blog about Defamation by Sue Scheff:

If a person writes a blog, and writes false and defamatory statements regarding a person, then the author of the blog would be guilty of defamation?

If a person verbally said to another person that he/she saw a non-existing police report; and then spread vicious lies verbally about a person, claiming the information came from this non-existing police report -- then this person verbally spreading these lies, would be guilty of slander?

Interesting.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2007, 04:53:42 AM »
Quote from: ""Joyce Harris""
So, according to this blog about Defamation by Sue Scheff:

If a person writes a blog, and writes false and defamatory statements regarding a person, then the author of the blog would be guilty of defamation?

If a person verbally said to another person that he/she saw a non-existing police report; and then spread vicious lies verbally about a person, claiming the information came from this non-existing police report -- then this person verbally spreading these lies, would be guilty of slander?

Interesting.


Take Sue's ass to court...
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2007, 10:54:00 AM »
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Additional Comments from the Director of ISAC, posted on February 16, 2005:

In a telephone conversation on Friday, February 11, 2005 with ISAC Director Shelby Earnshaw, Mark Sudweeks claimed that Joyce Harris "dragged her daughter out [of Whitmore Academy] by the hair."

In the days following, ISAC became aware of statements made by Sue Scheff who reportedly claimed to have a copy of the incident report filed by the Nephi City Police Officer who accompanied Joyce Harris to Whitmore Academy.

Along with this claim, Sue Scheff also reportedly said that the incident report stated that Mrs. Harris had dragged her daughter by the hair.

Sue Scheff also reportedly stated that the police officers investigating the case do not believe Mrs. Harris.

Because ISAC is committed to reporting FACTUAL INFORMATION, Director Shelby Earnshaw spoke directly to the investigator in charge of the case on Tuesday, February 15, 2005.

Among other things, the investigator stated that he believes Joyce Harris is "very credible."

During that conversation, ISAC also learned that due to a clerical error, the incident report in question had never been entered into the computer and DID NOT EXIST prior to ISAC's phone call to the Nephi City Police on February 15, 2005.

Therefore, it would not be possible for Mark Sudweeks or Sue Scheff to have a copy of the report in question.

Today, Wednesday February 16, ISAC obtained a copy of the report made by the Nephi City Police on the night that Joyce Harris removed her daughter from Whitmore Academy.

It is not public record so only excerpts will be posted on this site, however the report supports the fact that statements accusing Mrs. Harris of dragging her daughter by the hair, are false.

On 11-27-04 at approximately 02:21 hours I accompanied Richard and Joyce Harris of San Antonio, Texas to the Whitmore Academy.

When [the child] was about to leave several girls from the academy told Joyce that she couldn't take her. Joyce insisted and began pulling on [the child's] arm as several girls pulled on her other arm to try and keep her there.

Once again the girls told Joyce that she couldn't take her. Joyce pulled on her arm and the other girls pulled her back. [The child] broke loose and swiftly exited the mansion.

In the telephone conversation with Mark Sudweeks on February 11, ISAC informed him that he was welcome to submit a response to the statements made by Joyce Harris.

Mr. Sudweeks conveyed no interest in doing that and has sent no response to date, however he did state several times that ISAC would be hearing from his attorney.



Other people have reported to me that Sue Scheff has verbally repeated this untrue "story" to them about seeing a non-existing police report; and saying that I abused my daughter the night my husband and I removed our daughter from Whitmore Academy, while accompanied by Nephi Police Officer Wright.

I have written rebuttals on Fornits to most of the lies Sue Scheff wrote about me in her blog, Whitmore Academy My Experience. Scheff continues to update this blog; the latest "update" was September 2007.

Hazonmond - according to postings here on Fornits, isn't Ms. Scheff already really busy with other court proceedings; like the Carey Bock appeal -- the case that's been filed again her, Focal Point Academy etc; and some other case connected to State Farm Insurance Company?

Personally, I don't understand the purpose of Scheff continually updating a blog about the DEFUNCT Whitmore Academy, which has been closed for quite some time now; unless this might be a way to annoy the plaintiffs in the on-going Civil Case against the Sudweeks/Whitmore Academy.  My family is not involved in that case- .
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2007, 01:21:51 PM »
If you feel that strongly about these bloggings not being truthful and can prove it, then talk to a lawyer and see what your options are to resolve this issue in the legal arena.
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