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« on: September 14, 2007, 01:03:55 PM »
The other thread got lost in blatant fakery, fail, and Whospam, so let's make a new one.

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i agree with the legalization of marijuana being a huge social statement which would indirectly lead to more regulation of the tbs industry, but i think it will also polarize and radicalize the population, the people who are still brainwashed by anslinger propaganda will turn into radicals - you'll see alot more crazy parents screaming "oh will anyone think of the children blaaah...". i think we need to wait a few years untill that generation just dies [it's about time!], then it shouldnt be a problem. i think once our generation hits the house weed will most definitely become legal.

i think what we can start doing is educating parents, starting when their kids are in preschool about these institutions. bring it up at PTA meetings, etc. warn other parents about the potential danger. use the whole dateline NBC technique of using fear to spread the word. show them that these institutions are scary - show them that the institutions can do way more damage than any drug.

also hand out flyers at middle and high schools. inform kids of the potential threat. show them where to go and what to do if someone they know has been sent away. personally, even when i got back from hla, the kids at home had no idea where i was, or what the place was like. no matter how much i tried to explain what it was like they simply could not fathom it, they could not belive me, they still think i'm a liar and that these places are too illegal to exist. educate the populace.

another great idea is a parent boycott. if you know of a parent who has sent their kid away, who is away at the moment, boycott them. dont talk to them, refuse to let them in your house. make their lives miserable. have the kid's freinds hold protests outside the house (this actually worked once!!!!). if they come into your store or resturant, kick them out. cut them off on the road. be rude. throw salt on their lawn (maybe write out "child abuser" in salt on their lawn. prank call them. throw trash on their yard. graffiti their house. make their lives miserable. if you can, try to get the whole town in on the shunning.

the only reason continue to send their kids away despite the warnings is a combination of desperation and because it's socially acceptable, almost even a fad. "johhny and sue down the block sent their kids away, why cant we?" i remember a few years ago i was on the bus and some women were talking about treatment centers, one had their kid at casa by the sea and the other was considering sending her daughter to P.V. well, i raised a big fuss, i screamed "child torturers", and gave the entire bus a quick summary of what Casa by the sea is, and that this woman sent her own daughter there. the whole bus started staring at them, giving them dirty looks, one guy even came up and spit on one of the woman....the woman then ordered the bus to stop, they got off, and as it was pulling away i saw one of them collapse in tears. make it so that it's not socially acceptable for parents to send away kids. make it so that it's roughly as acceptable as branding your kids with an iron - and the industry will die.


Loving everything in this post, particularly the last two sentences.

Where I live, though, programs don't exist and are unheard-of; the bad kids go to Youth Correctional Center. I haven't had the opportunity to publically humiliate any program parents outside this forum (and ST) either, and I doubt I ever will, mostly because (unless I'm /i/nfiltrating) I wouldn't be caught dead where program parents hang out.

Anyone else ever get a good chance to crush a programmie in public?
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2007, 01:09:17 PM »
When I got home I punched my father in the face and he started to cry and I laughed at him. I told my mom she is a bitch and deserves no love from anyone, and is probably while she never will or ever will receive love from another human being. Fresh out of a program and all, I was in a confrontational mood.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 01:09:18 PM »
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Anyone else ever get a good chance to crush a programmie in public?



I make a point of going by Miller Newton's house every so often and letting him know what I think of him.  His neighbors love me.  No, seriously.  The can't stand him and have backed us in getting his "church" cut back in his neighborhood.

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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2007, 02:02:09 PM »
A couple of days ago the O.C. Register posted a story in which Laguna Hills was trying to ban "legal" medical pot from being sold in their city.  Apparently they are affraid a bunch of pot-heads are going to be hanging around the facility waiting to steal the medical pot.  Can you say "paranoid"?
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2007, 02:12:31 PM »
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When I got home I punched my father in the face and he started to cry and I laughed at him. I told my mom she is a bitch and deserves no love from anyone, and is probably while she never will or ever will receive love from another human being. Fresh out of a program and all, I was in a confrontational mood.


If anyone else would like to follow in this Anon's footsteps, please get video (at least audio) and YT that shit.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2007, 03:56:16 PM »
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A couple of days ago the O.C. Register posted a story in which Laguna Hills was trying to ban "legal" medical pot from being sold in their city.  Apparently they are affraid a bunch of pot-heads are going to be hanging around the facility waiting to steal the medical pot.  Can you say "paranoid"?


and rightfully so. i'm all for legalization, i smoke tons of weed. and i know firsthand what the business is like, and it aint all peace love and maryjane. a month or so ago, a major dispensary got robbed. a whole gang of thugs just stormed in and took everything. the problem is that weed is still a street drug, so ANYONE can sell it. there are major issues now with outdoor marijuana in cali, not like what it used to be. all the mexican cartels are moving to northern cali to grow their weed there, so they dont have to smuggle it. theres fields of the stuff all over the national parks, and it's being patrolled by gangs of mexicans armed to the teeth. a few hikers who just happened upon the fields have already gotten killed this year. whats even worse, in a way, is that these guys have no regard for the environment. they drag loads of trash into the woods and leave it there. they divert streams, and lay miles of pipe that distrupt the wildlife, and they use massive amounts of artificial nutrients (miraclegro is the mexi's fav), which ravage the ecosystem and pollute the crap out of otherwise pristine wildernes.

the indoor medical growers also have issues. the distribution and security is not yet regulated. although some people have been able to register, and grow their pot while the police keep an eye on them and help with security, it is still a primarily a clandestine industry. this means anyone can just roll up and rob them. so, people install booby traps, get guns, etc...which invites violence. there is a saying in the business "get a grand, get a gun". it's simply impossible to maintain a decent bussiness without some sort of security.

so there are only two options:
A. have sophisticated surveilance and armed guards/police standing at ever grow house and dispensary, and traveling with every shipment.
B. legalize it completely so that people on the street wont be able to make any money off of it. make it so that it is not profitable for them anymore.

the govt will never allocate funds for police help, why would they? so the only option is B. why would anyone buy shit on the street when they can get it at a store? if the gangs cant make money off of it, they will not get involved. then no more guns, an therefore less marijuana bussiness-related murder.

if you want a fairly realistic portrayl of the bussiness, watch WEEDS. nancy thinks she's safe, but then the guy she was selling her weed to in bulk decides that instead of paying her, he's going to just take it at gunpoint. when the weed goes missing, she cant give him any, so instead she owes HIM for the weed, and has to work off the money. (whats stopping him?). this kinda shit goes on all the time. untill we not only legalize, but legitimize the bussiness, guns, violence and bad bussiness will be a mainstay in the industry.....not just in america, it's like this worldwide, (execpt for a few small tiny pockets like amsterdam)
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2007, 04:13:36 PM »
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if you want a fairly realistic portrayl of the bussiness, watch WEEDS.


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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2007, 04:47:40 PM »
laugh all you want. be naive all you want. but i'll be laughing when you break down crying after you get robbed.

and weeds is pretty fuckin realistic. they even use real grow equipment on set. whoever writes the script really knows what they are talking about.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2007, 04:52:40 PM »
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but i'll be laughing when you break down crying after you get robbed.


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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2007, 11:27:48 PM »
Double dare anyone who's really pissed to start posting their parents' real names and addresses.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2007, 11:39:39 PM »
you know I find this "legal for medical reasons" thing quirky. So many Americans i have spoken to smoke the stuff. in fact many to my surprise and bemusement have been people who otherwise appear to be quite conventional and a little on the conservative side. This is in contrast to here where it is associated with "ratbag uni students" or somebodies lesbian hippy artist great aunt. Like wacky breakfast cereals, new york city and the Ripleys beleive it or not museum this is one of the things that make America great.
 
If most people in the US without cancer apparently smoke dope for the same reasons i like a g &T on a summer day why not just make it legal for harm minimisation & libertarian reasons instead of claiming medical necessity. Call a spade a spade already  :wink:
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2007, 11:41:15 PM »
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Double dare anyone who's really pissed to start posting their parents' real names and addresses.


Hmmm.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2007, 12:50:24 AM »
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Double dare anyone who's really pissed to start posting their parents' real names and addresses.


dont post it here, put it somewhere else and link it, you dont want to make fornits go looking for another web host.

and make sure to use a proxy....or two....or three......
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2007, 10:38:25 AM »
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If most people in the US without cancer apparently smoke dope for the same reasons i like a g &T on a summer day why not just make it legal for harm minimization & libertarian reasons instead of claiming medical necessity. Call a spade a spade already  :wink:

Well said.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2007, 03:36:22 PM »
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you know I find this "legal for medical reasons" thing quirky. So many Americans i have spoken to smoke the stuff. in fact many to my surprise and bemusement have been people who otherwise appear to be quite conventional and a little on the conservative side. This is in contrast to here where it is associated with "ratbag uni students" or somebodies lesbian hippy artist great aunt. Like wacky breakfast cereals, new york city and the Ripleys beleive it or not museum this is one of the things that make America great.
 
If most people in the US without cancer apparently smoke dope for the same reasons i like a g &T on a summer day why not just make it legal for harm minimisation & libertarian reasons instead of claiming medical necessity. Call a spade a spade already  :wink:
Damn right!  Claiming medicinal necessity is pointless when so many people smoke it anyways, and it detracts from the real issue i'd like to see addressed: the right to my own body!

Sadly, weed isassociated in the American consciousness with "ratbag uni students" even though most that smoke it blend in quite well otherwise.  Why the association?  Good question.

Consider this: marijuana, if out and out legalized would do more than just hurt the pharmaceutical industry.  It would hurt the doctors who make a killing off prescribing medication as well.  I meet with a doctor once a month who prescribes aderall (required for "controlled substances").  He makes $160 on each and every appointment for simply asking "how are things going... ok... here's your prescription".

The government, by regulating what I can put in MY own body makes it necessary for me to either feed into the system, or risk criminal penalties by breaking the law.  If I could simply eat a brownie in the morning to deal with my ADHD, the necessity would disappear (as in, my doctors appointments would become optional, rather than a procedural, beaurocratic mockery) along with my financial contributions to the drug comanies.  That isn't even to mention all the other things that have been verified to be helped by marijuana. and we all know big corporations have absolutely no say at all into what goes into our legislation.

Consider this:  Marinol, which contains the same active ingredient as weed (THC), but is manufactured by the drug companies, is considered a Schedule III drug (low penalty) while marijuana is a Schedule I drug, in the same class as heroin.

Consider this:  Marijuana was originally made illegal not based on any sort of scientific study, but rather on racism towards blacks and Mexicans.

Consider this: drug testing as part as a "drug free workplace" is rarely done to the higher echelon of employees, even though they have potentially could do more damage if they were in fact the "drug fiend" stereotypes the media portrays them as.  Why are only the low paying jobs drug tested?  Could it be that the underlying issues of racism are still alive and well?

When I was working for a government contractor, supposedly working on "secret" (as in, don't tell the auditors how much we're charging) contracts, yet I was not drug tested, and neither were any of my coworkers.  On the other hand, if I were to apply for a job at the local McDonalds (where, of course, many minorities work), they'd send me straight to pee in a cup (and I refuse to do that after my humiliation at Benchmark... I can't even pee in a urinal anymore..  too exposed).

Consider this:  When I have been "on marijuana" before, nobody has ever been able to notice (not even cops, not even my own parents).  People make comments, but they're all overwhelmingly positive.  It's an effective treatment for ADHD.  My coordination goes up, not down, on pot (and my psychiatrist explained this is not uncommon).  Unoffically, he acknowledges that pot is an effective treatment for a host of disorders... why?  I'm guessing because a whole bunch of his patients have reported the same to him.  The evidence isn't purely anecdotal.  There are mountains of studies saying just that <-- good book!  Effects are largely dosage and strain Dependant.  Coordination goes UP unless you "smoke your brains out", in which case you're probably going to take a nap anyway.

I don't know what else to say but that what the government says pot does is absolute fucking bullshit...  If you want to find out what pot really does do, smoke, and videotape yourself doing very complicated things stoned (that way you can't say you were imagining doing things better later).  At least with me, I can prove that I perform better in pot.  That's a fact (not that i currently smoke, since it's illegal...)
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