What the fuck is up with this place?

[Anonymous]

Yes, and what happens to these babies?
Anyone know what a healthy newborn baby brings on the adoption market these day?  This is fucking scary!

A healthy newborn baby goes for at least $20-$30k on the "gray market," which is the legal adoption market for buying babies.

"Black market" adoptions are the illegal ones, so you might expect a significant premium above the so-called legal adoption fees & expenses.

Talk about your ultimate troubled teen scam! Not only do the parents pay ridiculous 'tuition' to house these pregnant girls in BFE, but once the young woman signs the papers to give up her child, there is an instant bonus of several months 'tuition' to the program owners by selling -- oops, I mean "arranging" -- the adoptions of those babies.

BTW, I don't believe in racial profiling, but I suspect that healthy white American babies are worth more on the gray & black markets than, say, third world babies. Last time I checked, most program kids were white, and middle to upper middle class (from "good families"). Those babies might be worth a lot more than the standard fee.

[webdiva]

Now they attack pregnant teens also?

http://www.vpp.com/teenhelp/newbeginnings.html


Check out the bottom where it shows affiliations!!!!!

They got some fucken balls

im not surprised. whats the difference really? because its someone with child they shouldn't be attacked but if its a teen that isn't pregnant then it's ok?  I know you don't think that im being a bit over the top. my point is LOOK at who we are dealing with. CHILD ABUSERS. They don't GIVE A FUCK about anything or anyone. Why would they care if she's pregnant if anything they get a rise outta that shit and it's sick. But it sure Lets you see what we're REALLY dealing with.

[webdiva]

There really needs to be an underground railroad for this sort of thing (and I truly hope somebody is taking care of this).

What about forced abortion?  It's been known to happen in these places.  Regardless of what people feel about abortion, i don't think anybody agrees with taking choice away from a woman and forcing her to abort her child.

all for what ultimately amounts to a parent's vanity...

I've heard a lot of excuses ("we don't want our child to grow up as a single mother", "it's for your own damn good", etc...) but to me it sounds more like a justification than the real reason: Rich, stuck up, arrogant wasp types who don't want to have to explain a bastard grandchild at the local country club...

People who do this are no better than kidnapper and murderers, yet they are free to continue doing what they do.  I don't remember exactly where, but I know some girls recently escaped from one of these places after whacking the owners over the head with frying pans...  The only thing I find sad is that the owners of this particular shit-pit didn't die from their injuries, and that the girls were apprehended (i believe).  Why would I wish death on anybody?  Because it would ultimately mean less suffering...  one less concentration camp.

In my personal opinion, what they did was self defense, and I believe it to be morally acceptable to kill in self defense if it is necessary to protect either your life, or that of another person.  Those girls were following their maternal instincts to protect their children and they were punished and put on trial for it... instead of their kidnappers.  Then you really start to whose side the law is on...

what you think if there were you'd know? dude come on. there is, and more than one. problem is adults get caught they go to JAIL.  most of it has to be done by kids and that makes it very difficult. but it's happening just on a very small level. anyway i do agree. and i think it could be done on a much LARGER level and by minors with some adult guidance etc. i remember hearing about something similar years ago in st pete when i went to a conference down there. How people were trying to organize this type of thing but kept running into the whole "JAIL" thing with the adults.  To be successful it really has to appear to be all minors but i think that's doable just a bit tricky.

[hanzomon4]

There really needs to be an underground railroad for this sort of thing (and I truly hope somebody is taking care of this).

What about forced abortion?  It's been known to happen in these places.  Regardless of what people feel about abortion, i don't think anybody agrees with taking choice away from a woman and forcing her to abort her child.

all for what ultimately amounts to a parent's vanity...

I've heard a lot of excuses ("we don't want our child to grow up as a single mother", "it's for your own damn good", etc...) but to me it sounds more like a justification than the real reason: Rich, stuck up, arrogant wasp types who don't want to have to explain a bastard grandchild at the local country club...

People who do this are no better than kidnapper and murderers, yet they are free to continue doing what they do. I don't remember exactly where, but I know some girls recently escaped from one of these places after whacking the owners over the head with frying pans...  The only thing I find sad is that the owners of this particular shit-pit didn't die from their injuries, and that the girls were apprehended (i believe).  Why would I wish death on anybody?  Because it would ultimately mean less suffering...  one less concentration camp.

In my personal opinion, what they did was self defense, and I believe it to be morally acceptable to kill in self defense if it is necessary to protect either your life, or that of another person.  Those girls were following their maternal instincts to protect their children and they were punished and put on trial for it... instead of their kidnappers.  Then you really start to whose side the law is on...

That was this program.... see my post on the first page for the link

[str8h8er]

Now they attack pregnant teens also?

http://www.vpp.com/teenhelp/newbeginnings.html


Check out the bottom where it shows affiliations!!!!!

They got some fucken balls

im not surprised. whats the difference really? because its someone with child they shouldn't be attacked but if its a teen that isn't pregnant then it's ok?  I know you don't think that im being a bit over the top. my point is LOOK at who we are dealing with. CHILD ABUSERS. They don't GIVE A FUCK about anything or anyone. Why would they care if she's pregnant if anything they get a rise outta that shit and it's sick. But it sure Lets you see what we're REALLY dealing with.

Per haps I am just waiting to wake up from the nightmare.

[lorrispickelmire]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  Why don't they stop this shit.  I run a support and healing group for exiled parents who have lost children to forced or coerced adoption.   I am dealing with women whose lives have been left in shambles from these maternity homes in the 60-80's  I dont want to have to do this in twenty years.  If you are thinking about placing your baby because people have told you it would be best for the child, don't do it.  It is not best for the child, and the suffering you will see over the years is something that no one should have to go through.  Need someone to talk to?  lorrispickelmire@yahoo.com

[hanzomon4]

I found this programs site in the cache

Our Services page

[Anonymous]

QFTing.

MEDICAL:
 
Dr. Eric Hogenson is our Medical Director and one of the owners of Spanish Fork Medical Clinic and the Head Physician at Mountain View Hospital. The Medical Clinic is located just minutes away in the center of Spanish Fork, Utah.  Spanish Fork Clinic has a variety of Doctors and Specialists  available for the needs of our maternity girls.
Childbirth classes and deliveries are at Mountain View Hospital located in Payson, Utah, just a few minutes down the freeway from American Fork.  If needed, major medical hospitals are located just 10 miles away in Provo, and 30 miles away in Salt Lake City.  The Primary Childrens Medical Center and Hospital located in Salt Lake City is world renown for it's specialty treatments of babies and children.

COUNSELING AND LIFE SKILLS

Private and group counseling will be available on an as-need basis throughout the stay. Young women will participate in parenting, life skills and child birth classes. Teens are prepared for adulthood through assertiveness training, sex education, conflict resolution training, and substance abuse prevention.  Positive attitude and character development courses are also required.
EDUCATION:
 
Spencer Moody holds a Master of Education Degree from Southern Utah University.  He has more than eight years experience teaching "At-Risk" students.  In addition, he has taught multimedia, TV production, theater, speech and debate, and has coached football, wrestling and track.  He believes that all students can succeed through nurture and encouragement . . . that in celebrating what's right, we can find the passion to fix what's wrong.
 
New Hope students are enrolled in East Shore High School, an alternative school in the local Alpine School District. However, our students do their school work right here in our Maternity Home. As they complete each unit, our staff accompany them to the testing center at East Shore High where they complete tests and essays.  Our staff are with our girls at all times, including in the testing center to ensure they have no outside contact with other students. The flexibility of our schooling allows young women to come in anytime during the school year and to continue their education. It also allows them to make up missed credits and to accelerate earning credits.  This is an important componant since they will need to take some time off from school when they deliver.
ADOPTION:
 
 When a young woman faces an unplanned pregnancy, the ability to give her baby the future she wants for herself and her child is not always possible. Sometimes, the greatest act of love a mother can give is to choose to give her child to an adoptive family where they will have a home in which to grow and be nurtured. Each adoption is unique to the needs of the birth mother and adoptive parents. The type of adoption chosen will be one that all parents feel most comfortable with.
 
While adoption is not an easy choice, it can bring positive results for all involved. The choices made around an unplanned pregnancy are difficult in many ways. It is natural for a young woman to experience grief and loss when she chooses to let her child become a permanent part of another family's life. This pain and feelings will eventually be replaced with a peace of mind and inner strength knowing that her child can experience a life of opportunities because she made the unselfish decision to give her child to an adoptive family.
 
In most situations, young teen mothers are not prepared to enter the world of being a parent and need time to finish their school and other goals. There are thousands of loving married couples waiting anxiously for their lives to be blessed through the adoption of a new baby. Yes, it is truly a great act of love!
 
For those who choose adoption, a full range of counseling and adoptive services will be provided.

[hanzomon4]

Good point guest

New Hope Maternity Home is a safe, secure and structured evnironment for pregnant teenage girls, located in the foothills of the majestic Wasatch Mountains. The setting is pristine and private, allowing your student to make significant modifications in her life in a setting conducive to both growth and change. New Hope is housed in a lovely country style home in middle of over 30 acres that provides maximum privacy. During spring run off from the mountains, a beautiful stream runs through the back side of the property until the middle of July. The home is designed to comfortably accommodate the needs of eight young women. A large classroom and recreation area is located within the home, as well as spacious sleeping, living, kitchen, and dining areas. The surrounding area provides a serene backdrop to aid in reducing stress during this time in your student's life.

Features and Benefits

    * Location.....Utah Valley, just North of Provo, Utah in the small community of American Fork.  The benefit?  In most cases, you need to act quickly to get your daughter out of her current situation and away from most of her friends.  You don't want her to go where they will have access to contact her, and it is also a great benefit to be far away geographically.  By taking her totally out of her environment into a new, safe and secure environment, she will be better able to start making better choices.
    * Size.....We chose to be a small facility with a limited number of beds. Why?   We have spent a lot of time in large facilities that tend to be very institutionalized.  We wanted to have more of a home like atmosphere that fosters more personal care and growth.  Your daughter is pregnant, why not let her go through all of those many changes and emotional needs in a dignified way and in a warm, caring, and yet structured  environment. What this means to you is that your daughter will have close supervision with a lot of one-on-one time.    We can spend the time and energy needed focusing on helping her learn those things that will help her to be successful in life.  

    * Experience.....As owners, the Moody's have had years of experience working in youth facilities and programs, including facility management positions.  They have  had years of experience with foster girls in their own home prior to New Hope.  Spencer and Jana Moody are the Program Directors and Facility Managers.  Other carefully selected and trained staff help create a loving and nurturing atmosphere.

The New Hope Team.....The rest of the team that will be involved in the life of your daughter are dedicated professionals who have the up most interest in their success.  All of the people who provide medical services, educational services, childbirth classes, and other volunteer services are some of the finest people you could ever meet anywhere.  Maybe that has a little to do with our small town atmosphere where people really do still care about others.  We believe there is something to be said about the quality of life in place like American Fork.