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What the fuck is up with this place?
« on: August 27, 2007, 02:08:21 PM »
Now they attack pregnant teens also?

http://www.vpp.com/teenhelp/newbeginnings.html


Check out the bottom where it shows affiliations!!!!!

They got some fucken balls
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2007, 02:43:07 PM »
The Maternity program and all the programs listed at the bottom are owned by WWASPS, they try to make them all seem separate but their marketing gives it away. I have yet to read an account of what goes on in that facility, if they are required to do seminars, how it's structured. Anybody know?
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2007, 05:31:45 PM »
:question:

I guess no one knows
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2007, 05:34:09 PM »
All WWASPS operate the same so if it's WWASPS....
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2007, 05:35:48 PM »
:oops:
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2007, 06:51:00 PM »
Yes, and what happens to these babies?
Anyone know what a healthy newborn baby brings on the adoption market these day?  This is fucking scary!
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2007, 07:17:47 PM »
My mom was involved in some militant anti abortion group back at least as far as `88 or so. I was actually relieved when she said she had given up being a stooge for Str8 for helping pregnant teenagers. Now I wonder.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2007, 08:33:17 AM »
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
My mom was involved in some militant anti abortion group back at least as far as `88 or so. I was actually relieved when she said she had given up being a stooge for Str8 for helping pregnant teenagers. Now I wonder.


Cant your mum just find a quiet mellow reading circle or a ladies auxiliary!!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2007, 09:01:40 AM »
New Beginnings Maternity Home seems to be located on:

220 W. 300N, Kanab, UT 84741

www.flashearth.com seems to confirm that even though that the satellite photos are of poor quality.

I have found this page at Caica where they endorse the facility

http://www.caica.org/New_beginnings_pregnancy.htm

Some names comes up: Spencer & Jana Moody

They have to be investigated.

They also works with Christa McAuliffe Academy (CMA) and Deersprings Ranch. Both names are new to me and certain something to be worked with in relationship with Fornits Wiki.

I am busy with other cases. I hope that someone will over from here.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2007, 11:38:17 AM »
It is possible that this is old information. If this is the facility WWASPS was operating in Kanab, then it is no longer operated by WWASPS and is no longer a maternity home.

If this is in fact the Kanab facility, then this building was bought by ALA and is now a Christian Boarding school; and this is an outdated web site that has been pulled up.

The web site looks like one of the countless examples that some program parent is operating. Teen Help has assisted many of the Parents in setting up web sites to help them market the program and get that free month for every successful family reeled in. I believe this is one of those - and it is very likely, they simply haven't kept it current.

It is also possible that WWASPS has set up yet another such maternity home - and I thought this might be the case - but again - if this is the "old hospital" address in Kanab that they were originally using, then it is not now WWASP; nor is it a maternity home.

///I have found this page at Caica where they endorse the facility http://www.caica.org/New_beginnings_pregnancy.htm ///

Well - this is yet another example of CACA working for WWASP; because when it was a maternity home - it was WWASPS - as the original link in this thread proves.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2007, 02:27:02 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2007, 08:27:03 PM »
Why NOT go after teen pregnancy?

a) the parent is the consumer

b) the child has no rights

c) pregnant teens are at high risk of infanticide, drug abuse, runaway, self injury, and can also be a blemish on their parents socially

Its a DUH thing. Make some money, keep the twerp out of sight, and keep the kid alive to collect welfare for a foster family!  :D
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2007, 12:49:56 AM »
I run a group for mothers who had their babies stolen from them through forced or coerced adoption.  If you have been in this home and they made you put your baby up for adoption, join us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/momsloveis4ever/

You are always welcome and we are here to listen.

Lorri
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2007, 01:07:53 AM »
There really needs to be an underground railroad for this sort of thing (and I truly hope somebody is taking care of this).

What about forced abortion?  It's been known to happen in these places.  Regardless of what people feel about abortion, i don't think anybody agrees with taking choice away from a woman and forcing her to abort her child.

all for what ultimately amounts to a parent's vanity...

I've heard a lot of excuses ("we don't want our child to grow up as a single mother", "it's for your own damn good", etc...) but to me it sounds more like a justification than the real reason: Rich, stuck up, arrogant wasp types who don't want to have to explain a bastard grandchild at the local country club...

People who do this are no better than kidnapper and murderers, yet they are free to continue doing what they do.  I don't remember exactly where, but I know some girls recently escaped from one of these places after whacking the owners over the head with frying pans...  The only thing I find sad is that the owners of this particular shit-pit didn't die from their injuries, and that the girls were apprehended (i believe).  Why would I wish death on anybody?  Because it would ultimately mean less suffering...  one less concentration camp.

In my personal opinion, what they did was self defense, and I believe it to be morally acceptable to kill in self defense if it is necessary to protect either your life, or that of another person.  Those girls were following their maternal instincts to protect their children and they were punished and put on trial for it... instead of their kidnappers.  Then you really start to whose side the law is on...
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