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Dr.George R. Ross,
« on: September 10, 2007, 12:46:06 PM »
HIS phone # 859/223 5126,
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Dr.George R. Ross,
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2007, 10:54:41 PM »
how can U be sure its THE Dr George Ross? The former Straight executive who helped form LIFE, then moved on to form KHK then 2 more spin offs in KY?
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 03:43:01 PM »
how can U be sure its not..............
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2007, 03:54:38 PM »
There is only one way to find out...... Call his ass!!!![/color]
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Dr.George R. Ross,
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2007, 05:33:33 PM »
It's a kentucky phone number...........Ross fled with his boytoy, Dave McAdams to start another rape mill after they left the LIFE program.   Call the muther fucker....let him know how ya "feel".
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Dr.George R. Ross,
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2007, 08:57:14 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
It's a kentucky phone number...........Ross fled with his boytoy, Dave McAdams to start another rape mill after they left the LIFE program.   Call the muther fucker....let him know how ya "feel".



I remember Dave McAdams.  He was an "executive staff" when I came in.  Or maybe on the verge of 'senior' and 'exec'.  Big,  burly blond guy.  Grizzly Adams type.





And I agree.  Call him.
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Dr.George R. Ross,
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2007, 07:42:15 PM »
Ugh! ::puke::

Even the name George Ross gives me the willies. Memories of George Ross tend to generate a tad more than the willies. From my point of view this is when (for me) Straight Inc, really began to go down hill and fast.

At first glance the Rational Thinking thing, kinda made sence, but then it was turned into a cartoonish gimmic. Ratioanal Ralph, Oy! In hind sight, I look back and see here is were Straight Inc. really and trully began to "change" my thinking. I never knew for sure what it was my thinking was to change into...what ever it was I never met muster. I was a teenager being taught to think like a 40-45 year old.

I never really liked George Ross....seemed too much like Uncle Pervy ( a character from Cheech Martin and Tommy Chong). For a long time there was nothing specific about him.....he just seemed real odd.....of course no odder than Mr Ed, the old geezer that sat out front and all the lil runner girls would appear to drool over......Oy....that really gies me the hebby jebbies.

What cinched the dislike for George Ross was one night in the "Green Room" at the old Morgan Yacht Building. A female had been brought to the room where George Ross, 7-8 guys (myself included) I dont recall any female staff or otherwise. It seems this girl had been raped and had trouble relating it to the 350+ people we had at the time. I mean, can ya blame her?

At any rate, George Ross begins to "Mock Rape" this girl. It was fucking unbelievable....for the life of me I dont remember the girls name...dont matter...but that night prior to the Green Room incident.She slapped the living dog shit out of Chris Castler, who I think had made senior Staff at the time....Knocked him way the fuck back to...He taunted her again to hit him....and she did, same punch, same landing site...Put Chris flat on his ass.

But I rember thinking then and many many times afterwards over the years....How was that therapeutic? How can it be justified as Therapeutic?

Now seeing Dave MacAdams name brought about mixed emotions. He stayed at my house for a long long time. I knew Dave well at the time. I thought Dave as friend....but he began to excell thru the program. Before I knew it he was on Staff and I was still on my phases......Seriously.....what the fuck?...I still liked dave despite the rivalry or whatever.

He did this thing to people, it is something I still do to people to this very day. Dave would speak to you in conversation. Then as the conversation continued, he de-modulated his voice and lowered it and lowered it so gradually that soon no sound was actually emminating from him....Most annoying, but fun to pull on folks from time to time.

What befuddles me is to see Dave MacAdams name associated with the George Ross cretin....I always thought more of Dave then that. Hopefully it's not true....Course I heard he was Executive Staff in the 80's .....Man, been thinking about that all day.

I would be curious to read any others thoughts on Dave, if not from Dave. Most agree he was good /descent person......but he was  Exec Staff....have this image in my head of a pit bull wagging it's tail and growling at the same time.

Namaste
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Dr.George R. Ross,
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2007, 07:57:48 PM »
McAdams and Ross started KHK in Kentucky I think.    McAdams got sucked in to the straight crap ....as a kid I can forgive him for this, but as an adult when he kept up the straight shit, running progams and such, I think that mofucker should be put in jail.  

He shoulda known how fucked up it was.   Dave, you need to apply the 3rd step (I think it is the proper one to apply) LOL - you fuck.  Dave, you and Miller and Ross are all about on the same level in my humble opinion.
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Dr.George R. Ross,
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2007, 07:58:34 PM »
McAdams and Ross started KHK in Kentucky I think.    McAdams got sucked in to the straight crap ....as a kid I can forgive him for this, but as an adult when he kept up the straight shit, running progams and such, I think that mofucker should be put in jail.  

He shoulda known how fucked up it was.   Dave, you need to apply the 3rd step (I think it is the proper one to apply) LOL - you fuck.  Dave, you and Miller and Ross are all about on the same level in my humble opinion.
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Dr.George R. Ross,
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2007, 08:06:24 PM »
He was only there for a short time after I came in.  Plus, being a girl, I didn't have much contact with him anyway.  I don't remember him being a Wm Rollins, but I dunno.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2007, 08:10:29 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
McAdams and Ross started KHK in Kentucky I think.    McAdams got sucked in to the straight crap ....as a kid I can forgive him for this, but as an adult when he kept up the straight shit, running progams and such, I think that mofucker should be put in jail.  

He shoulda known how fucked up it was.   Dave, you need to apply the 3rd step (I think it is the proper one to apply) LOL - you fuck.  Dave, you and Miller and Ross are all about on the same level in my humble opinion.


Yes, my memories are of Dave no older than 17.....Really, on the same level of Miller Newton and George Ross?
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Dave McAdams
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2007, 11:56:44 PM »
I remember clear as a bell the day Dave first entered the program.
He looked like a Buffalo Bill/Stephen Stills hippy straight from the mudpits of Woodstock.  I think he was 16, yet he had thick wooly sideburns that reached his jawline.  I was fooled into thinking he had the IQ of a cigar butt, yet once his spirit broke, it blew my mind how fast the transformation into an intelligent teenager took over.

He was a newcomer of Mike Brunette, who's father was on the Board of Directors.  I always thought highly of them all and still am torn to admit that I still do.  Mikes younger brother Thomas was a damn good friend as well as Mike.  They all were transported to where I lived when Patterson Horizons was turned into an Emergency Dropoff during the freak-out flood of May 8, 1979 when my dad made 3 trips in the trusty custom blue leather Ford Maverick that he drove through water that came up to the windows.  We wound up with 27 Straightlings at our house as parents as far away as Lakeland made frantic phone calls to locate their children.  The St. Petersburg area around Tyrone was under 8 feet of water in some places.  This was the only time in my knowlege that Straight Inc. had to close down operations and evacuate.  This was some serious shit and I think I was on 4th phase and finishing 11th grade at the time.  It was a big moment in my program.  At the risk of being started over, I took a Polaroid snapshot of about half of the 27 people that were at my house that day.  Dave McAdams is in that photo and Mike Brunette got ahold of some vampire fangs he found while we were digging around for board games to pass the time.  He slipped them on right before the picture was taken and it looked cool as hell in the finished photo.  My dad might still have it tucked away somewhere.  I'll have to ask him.  If he does, I'll send a copy to those who want one.
Dave was a good guy, and so was Mike, who ended up marrying Nancy Ross, sister of Jeff Ross.  While visiting Liz Cassidy/Gay about 2 years out of the program, she told me how Mike and Nancy had started drinking beer.  She was really tore up about it at the time.  Around this time quite a few of my friends from the program had started delving back into alcohol.  Not long after I had my first "screw up beer" in Jacksonville Florida while being processed into the United States Army.  This was early October 1982 and shortly after that, events led to the total meltdown of my family as I knew it and the stage was set for the horrible damage that came after that is still under reconstruction to this very day.

As far as George Ross is concerned, more power to him.  At least he tried to make a difference.  His RSA therapy was a little too cerebral in my opinion, to be laying on teenagers and adolecents, but what the hell, it really is a useful tool if used properly, sort of like Algebra I guess.  George was one of the few things right about the program and like I said earlier, I feel torn writing about it, but goddammit people like him helped me to forget shit like sweat caked girls screaming at each other and calling each other whores and shit, while the guys who made them that way stood smugly on the sidelines leaning over and tugging my ear and telling me to "pay attention" like I was supposed to walk away with some valuable lesson from it all.  I guess the best way to sum it up is that we all had to take the bad with the good, and compared to Ms. Pete, Doug Hemminger, Mike Murphy and his Jekyl and Hyde psycho act, total asshole bitches like Amy Wrong, Wanda Minton, Melinda Putnam and others, people like Dave and George helped keep me from breaking a chair over some motherfuckers head.
I better quit for now, but this thread really pushed some rusted shut buttons on me...................Later ::luck::  ::luck::  ::luck::  ::rocker::  ::rocker::  ::stab::
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2007, 12:18:37 AM »
Damn I won't get to sleep unless I ask this........thanks Woof, but I am trying to remember the chick that clocked Chris Casselor.  I remember she was on front row, about the third one from the end and she had blonde hair.  The season and phase I was on tell me around the latter part of 3rd phase.  She was new, and she was from down south.  Was'nt it Ann Crampton?
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Inside a warehouse behind Tyrone Mall
we walked in darkness, kept hitting the wall.
I took the time to feel for the door,
I had been \"treated\" but what the hell for?

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Re: Dave McAdams
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2007, 07:45:17 AM »
Quote from: ""85 Day Jerk""
As far as George Ross is concerned, more power to him.  At least he tried to make a difference. His RSA therapy was a little too cerebral in my opinion, to be laying on teenagers and adolecents, but what the hell, it really is a useful tool if used properly, sort of like Algebra I guess. George was one of the few things right about the program



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Dr.George R. Ross,
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2007, 09:02:04 AM »
Yeah... I have to say that the cognitive dissonance I was experiencing was something more like wishing that I could just go back to being a normal teenager instead of being a goddam Straightling...

The tenets of RSA were not terrible in and of themselves, but Straight took them and used them to bolster its own twisted agenda...

Bleach is ok to clean your toilet with, just don't use it as a body wash...
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