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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2007, 07:26:21 PM »
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Ah, thank you.  See?  Told ya I was illiterate with this stuff.   :D


I'm glad that you asked :)

Actually, I bet if more of us did this selective googling-and-clicking, it might bring truth to the top a bit faster.

After all, you can BET that Reputation Defender has HIRED monkeys to show artificial interest in Sue Sue's spam.  (That's how they got that tripe to the top in the beginning: by manufacturing an artificial swell of interest in their propaganda.)
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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2007, 07:38:23 PM »
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Ah, thank you.  See?  Told ya I was illiterate with this stuff.   :D

I'm glad that you asked :)

Actually, I bet if more of us did this selective googling-and-clicking, it might bring truth to the top a bit faster.

After all, you can BET that Reputation Defender has HIRED monkeys to show artificial interest in Sue Sue's spam.  (That's how they got that tripe to the top in the beginning: by manufacturing an artificial swell of interest in their propaganda.)


Well... It's an effective tactic.  Seperate blogs all cross linked and linking to PURE's main site... and scamming digg, and all sorts of other sites.

And i must say, THANK YOU ANONYMOUS for all this help, and the tips.  We ain't out of the woods yet, but I'm glad there are guardian angels out there helping.

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2007, 07:55:01 PM »
You'd think she would learn - stay away from Fornits.
But I guess its like Kipling says: The burnt fool's bandaged finger, goes wobbling back to the fire. . .

There are a couple things I have been meaning to comment on in her letter to Go-Daddy. Firstly, her saying she had had to close her office as if it had to do with anything on Fornits.  Yeah, she closed her office - but long before recent, or current events. She and I were still talking when she closed her office. That was back before Joyce Harris gave her statement on PURE and Whitmore to ISAC. She told me her mom was after her to close the office, to cut back on the expense of running an office, when she could operate PURE from her home very easily.

And the bit about someone saying her daughter had died - I remember that. It was on the Whitmore forum (back when all that was red hot) and the point of it appeared to be an attempt to guilt people into leaving Sue alone. I don't know exactly where it is - maybe someone can find it - but I thought it was Sue herself; or someone posting at her request, as people often do; trying to make people feel bad for her, so they would stop being "mean" to her. I was shocked she would tempt fate like that - go so far as to say her daughter had died, to obtain some measure of sympathy. It was of corse total bull shit.  And now - trying to argue it was some kind of threat, is also total bull shit.

But now you guys - listen - not to be taken for a prudish church lady (tho I know I will be) you might find it easier to find a lasting home for these fori, if you'd lay off the overt and extreme vulgarity and racism. Poking a little fun now and then is one thing - but some of your guys really do go to far. You take advantage of the freedom Ginger has always insisted you retain, and in effect, you give people legitimate objections, any hosting company will likely give consideration to. If you want to save Fornits, and have a place where all the issues can be freely discussed, you might abstain from abusing the privilege to the extent you sometimes do.

All this being said - for now - as I understand it - she is bitchin' about the Sue Scheff Truth site - and that one is squeaky clean - but true - so maybe this concern of mine is in fact misplaced. Maybe the hosting companies are more upset by Truth than by public vulgarity.
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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2007, 07:55:36 PM »
Quote from: ""psy""

Well... It's an effective tactic.  Seperate blogs all cross linked and linking to PURE's main site... and scamming digg, and all sorts of other sites.

And i must say, THANK YOU ANONYMOUS for all this help, and the tips.  We ain't out of the woods yet, but I'm glad there are guardian angels out there helping.

 


Thats very kind of you.  

Reputation Defender's tactics (bullying speakers, arm twisting of ISPs, censoring of information their sponsors don't like) would be a disaster for the democratic nature of the internet.  

You all have more allies than you realize.

Yes, your remark about all of the interlinked blogs (sometimes called a "link farm") is a great observation.  Because Google counts links, too.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2007, 07:59:31 PM »
by George.. I think we found one:
http://www.ctyme.com/hosting/index.htm

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We are very strong supporters of free speech and free expression and resist any attempts of governments to impose limits on what can be said on the web. Therefore, we allow content that many of the larger hosting companies might not. This is not to say that we allow anything and everything. But we believe strongly that the web belongs to the people of the world, and that it transcends governmental control.

What makes Computer Tyme Hosting different than most other companies when it comes to free speech and privacy is that when other companies are threated by lawyers - they don't have the expertise or want to deal with the issues of determining if the lawyers who is making the threat has any legal basis to do so. We are not so timid around lawyers and we are familiar with legal issues surrounding fair use, trademark, copyright and slander. So if a lawyer calls us demanding that something be taken down - or that I turn over information about customers - they better have a legitimate court order in hand to do so - or we just tell them to get f**ked! And - there are quite a few lawyers out there that I've said that to. So if you are exposing corporate and government corruption - or just want to build a sucks site - you have a home with Computer Tyme Hosting.

For example, France prohibits allowing it's citizens to view web sites with Nazi related materials, or trade merchandise from World War II. As a result, sites like Yahoo/Geocities scan their web pages and take down pages that say the word "Hitler" in them anywhere. Thus this page itself would be banned from Geocities. Our position is that France doesn't have the right to censor the web and French citizens are welcome to read whatever they want here and the Government of France can go fuck themselves. I'm legal savvy and France doesn't scare me. Neither does the United States. So we permit content that governments find offensive.

Other examples include exposing online scams. Lawyers call me threatening everything in the world and I just tell them to go win a lawsuit and bring me an order with a judges signature on it - or don't bother wasting my time. If the lawyer makes a false representation - I file a bar complaint in the jurisdiction where they are licensed.


I love it.
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2007, 08:01:17 PM »
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You all have more allies than you realize.


I have suspected this for a while.  I sure am glad to get some confirmation.  I figured once this started getting to the right people we'd end up with reinforcements.

Thank you.  Very much!
 :smokin:  ::bandit::  :nworthy:



Any other suggestions, please feel free to post them.
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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2007, 08:02:33 PM »
I found a good read about an animal rights website in similar situation as this. In the article it states this:
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Earlier this month, the Bank of New York notified EnviroLink that it believed that the site violated its copyrights. EnviroLink took down the site. "Under the DMCA, a corporation contacts an ISP to let them know that a site that they host is violating their copyright," explains Knauer. "To protect ourselves from threat of lawsuit, we have to shut down the Web site, whether we think the claim is valid or not."

If the client whose Web site has been shut down provides a counter-notification swearing under penalty of perjury that it believes the site not to be a copyright violation, then the site can be reinstated by the ISP, such as Envirolink, but not before 10 working days and no later than 14 working days have passed. In the case of BankofNYkills.com, Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty has not yet sent a counter-notification. The site remains down.


Psy's done this so why is the host freaking out, lets us prove (again) the truth in what we say.  Sue knows it's the truth that's why she's shit'in bricks...
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2007, 08:04:24 PM »
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Quote from: ""psy""

Well... It's an effective tactic.  Seperate blogs all cross linked and linking to PURE's main site... and scamming digg, and all sorts of other sites.

And i must say, THANK YOU ANONYMOUS for all this help, and the tips.  We ain't out of the woods yet, but I'm glad there are guardian angels out there helping.

 

Thats very kind of you.  

Reputation Defender's tactics (bullying speakers, arm twisting of ISPs, censoring of information their sponsors don't like) would be a disaster for the democratic nature of the internet.  

You all have more allies than you realize.

I am beginning to realize that.  I don't think I can say thank you enough.

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Yes, your remark about all of the interlinked blogs (sometimes called a "link farm") is a great observation.  Because Google counts links, too.


Yes.  But what's unique about her linkfarms is that they actually hire (probably outsourced) monkeys to fill up the pages with text without links so it looks like an actual article, and has a decent link:text ratio.  If Sue Scheff actually wrote all those blogs it would probably end up something like this:



As much as I would find that hilarious, it hasn't happened yet, sadly.
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2007, 08:40:13 PM »
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Yes.  But what's unique about her linkfarms is that they actually hire (probably outsourced) monkeys to fill up the pages with text without links so it looks like an actual article, and has a decent link:text ratio.  If Sue Scheff actually wrote all those blogs it would probably end up something like this:



As much as I would find that hilarious, it hasn't happened yet, sadly.


Yeah, that's an important point: there've gotta be a number of monkeys involved, not only in the bumping, but in the generating of "Sue's" blogs.

BTW, did RD tell your ISP that you were in violation of copyright?  Or did they allege libel?
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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2007, 08:57:41 PM »
Libel, defamation I believe... Read the Here's the skiny! post
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« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2007, 09:00:15 PM »
Why not sue the queen of lawsuits?  This is clearly harassment by Scheff and her hired bumblers.  As mentioned earlier, it's time for her to put up or shut up.  Prove the comments are fallacious or grit your teeth and take it like the pro you say you are, Sue. The only other public figure I can think of with such paper-thin skin is Dubya Bush, and he uses the same kind of goon hand to stifle critics.  Like Dubya, Scheff's spinning faster and faster toward the pipe at the bottom of the  toilet bowl.

Sue, you wretched, cannibalistic sow.  After taking a look at the TB documentary again, I see why you don't want it available in the States.  It's a hell of a struggle to quash a small group of people who are  revealing your hypocrisy, and the film would seal the deal for you.  Yeah, the "housewife" who took on the evil WWASP and won...what a con you laid down.  Did you look around the court room at the faces of your supporters as they realized you were a liar who was turning a healthy profit off sending kids to pits like the Whitmore?  How do you sleep at night, after spouting all that shit about the children having a voice?  The truth prevailed?  Exactly what whitewashed, Sue-approved version of the truth was that?  

I've read the WWASP vs. Scheff transcript, and what a non-event it was.  It was no David and Goliath-style legal battle, only two equals in evil battling it out for turf.  When I read all Scheff's gibberish about Carey Bock I notice she never mentions the relationship they had prior to the defamation lawsuit.  What's the matter, Sue, you don't want potential victims to know you're a coldblooded, vengeful bitch?  Bock was on your witness list, until she sold her computer to WWASP so they could obtain emails your computer conveniently deleted after thirty days.  You were pissed off, Sue, and you waited, and when you saw an opportunity you pulled some gutless sleight of hand on Bock. Your vengeance pulled almost four times more than the amount awarded to Martin Anderson's family for his life.

Are you At Wit's End yet?  The illiterate advertising propaganda/nutbag manifesto you call a book is going to sell like chocolate-covered turds.  I can't imagine how you and Izzy reacted when you realized the deranged, paranoid Whitmore blogs were being read by GAO investigators.  You two were caught engaging in that heinous shit, looking like two sociopaths who probably beat crippled kids for recreation.  I'll bet there was one hell of a deafening roar of flatulence as Izzy's bowels spontaneously evacuated, ruining her size XXXL stretch polyester pants.  That was the moment Izzy realized she had gone into business with a bigger loser than herself, and she switched to wearing mu-mu's in case of more gut-wrenching revelations...

The truth shall prevail, but first it has to get around your lying ass, Sue, and the inept punks who keep trying to shovel the shit off your worthless reputation.  You wanted to be famous - now you have to answer for your sins in public.  Eventually the RD nonsense will be more detrimental than beneficial to you. When RD realizes trying to sanitize the image of a shitbag like you is making them a huge joke, they'll disassociate themselves like you were an incarnation of the clap.  But it will be too late for both of you.
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« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2007, 09:02:15 PM »
Remember how certain people used to point and laugh at us and say that no one ever paid attention to what we said? (more than just ol' SueSue and Izzy.  I'm remembering a few HLA threads with whatshername and Who too) That we were irrelevant and made no difference?



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« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2007, 09:07:11 PM »
Quote from: ""ZenAgent""
Why not sue the queen of lawsuits?  This is clearly harassment by Scheff and her hired bumblers.  As mentioned earlier, it's time for her to put up or shut up.  Prove the comments are fallacious or grit your teeth and take it like the pro you say you are, Sue. The only other public figure I can think of with such paper-thin skin is Dubya Bush, and he uses the same kind of goon hand to stifle critics.  Like Dubya, Scheff's spinning faster and faster toward the pipe at the bottom of the  toilet bowl.

Sue, you wretched, cannibalistic sow.  After taking a look at the TB documentary again, I see why you don't want it available in the States.  It's a hell of a struggle to quash a small group of people who are  revealing your hypocrisy, and the film would seal the deal for you.  Yeah, the "housewife" who took on the evil WWASP and won...what a con you laid down.  Did you look around the court room at the faces of your supporters as they realized you were a liar who was turning a healthy profit off sending kids to pits like the Whitmore?  How do you sleep at night, after spouting all that shit about the children having a voice?  The truth prevailed?  Exactly what whitewashed, Sue-approved version of the truth was that?  

I've read the WWASP vs. Scheff transcript, and what a non-event it was.  It was no David and Goliath-style legal battle, only two equals in evil battling it out for turf.  When I read all Scheff's gibberish about Carey Bock I notice she never mentions the relationship they had prior to the defamation lawsuit.  What's the matter, Sue, you don't want potential victims to know you're a coldblooded, vengeful bitch?  Bock was on your witness list, until she sold her computer to WWASP so they could obtain emails your computer conveniently deleted after thirty days.  You were pissed off, Sue, and you waited, and when you saw an opportunity you pulled some gutless sleight of hand on Bock. Your vengeance pulled almost four times more than the amount awarded to Martin Anderson's family for his life.

Are you At Wit's End yet?  The illiterate advertising propaganda/nutbag manifesto you call a book is going to sell like chocolate-covered turds.  I can't imagine how you and Izzy reacted when you realized the deranged, paranoid Whitmore blogs were being read by GAO investigators.  You two were caught engaging in that heinous shit, looking like two sociopaths who probably beat crippled kids for recreation.  I'll bet there was one hell of a deafening roar of flatulence as Izzy's bowels spontaneously evacuated, ruining her size XXXL stretch polyester pants.  That was the moment Izzy realized she had gone into business with a bigger loser than herself, and she switched to wearing mu-mu's in case of more gut-wrenching revelations...

The truth shall prevail, but first it has to get around your lying ass, Sue, and the inept punks who keep trying to shovel the shit off your worthless reputation.  You wanted to be famous - now you have to answer for your sins in public.  Eventually the RD nonsense will be more detrimental than beneficial to you. When RD realizes trying to sanitize the image of a shitbag like you is making them a huge joke, they'll disassociate themselves like you were an incarnation of the clap.  But it will be too late for both of you.


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« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2007, 09:11:38 PM »
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Why not sue the queen of lawsuits?  This is clearly harassment by Scheff and her hired bumblers.  As mentioned earlier, it's time for her to put up or shut up.  Prove the comments are fallacious or grit your teeth and take it like the pro you say you are, Sue. The only other public figure I can think of with such paper-thin skin is Dubya Bush, and he uses the same kind of goon hand to stifle critics.  Like Dubya, Scheff's spinning faster and faster toward the pipe at the bottom of the  toilet bowl.


Zen!

Do you have a blog?

You should!

http://www.blogger.com

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« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2007, 09:19:38 PM »
Quote from: ""ZenAgent""
Why not sue the queen of lawsuits?  This is clearly harassment by Scheff and her hired bumblers.  As mentioned earlier, it's time for her to put up or shut up.  Prove the comments are fallacious or grit your teeth and take it like the pro you say you are, Sue. The only other public figure I can think of with such paper-thin skin is Dubya Bush, and he uses the same kind of goon hand to stifle critics.  Like Dubya, Scheff's spinning faster and faster toward the pipe at the bottom of the  toilet bowl.

Sue, you wretched, cannibalistic sow.  After taking a look at the TB documentary again, I see why you don't want it available in the States.  It's a hell of a struggle to quash a small group of people who are  revealing your hypocrisy, and the film would seal the deal for you.  Yeah, the "housewife" who took on the evil WWASP and won...what a con you laid down.  Did you look around the court room at the faces of your supporters as they realized you were a liar who was turning a healthy profit off sending kids to pits like the Whitmore?  How do you sleep at night, after spouting all that shit about the children having a voice?  The truth prevailed?  Exactly what whitewashed, Sue-approved version of the truth was that?  

I've read the WWASP vs. Scheff transcript, and what a non-event it was.  It was no David and Goliath-style legal battle, only two equals in evil battling it out for turf.  When I read all Scheff's gibberish about Carey Bock I notice she never mentions the relationship they had prior to the defamation lawsuit.  What's the matter, Sue, you don't want potential victims to know you're a coldblooded, vengeful bitch?  Bock was on your witness list, until she sold her computer to WWASP so they could obtain emails your computer conveniently deleted after thirty days.  You were pissed off, Sue, and you waited, and when you saw an opportunity you pulled some gutless sleight of hand on Bock. Your vengeance pulled almost four times more than the amount awarded to Martin Anderson's family for his life.

Are you At Wit's End yet?  The illiterate advertising propaganda/nutbag manifesto you call a book is going to sell like chocolate-covered turds.  I can't imagine how you and Izzy reacted when you realized the deranged, paranoid Whitmore blogs were being read by GAO investigators.  You two were caught engaging in that heinous shit, looking like two sociopaths who probably beat crippled kids for recreation.  I'll bet there was one hell of a deafening roar of flatulence as Izzy's bowels spontaneously evacuated, ruining her size XXXL stretch polyester pants.  That was the moment Izzy realized she had gone into business with a bigger loser than herself, and she switched to wearing mu-mu's in case of more gut-wrenching revelations...

The truth shall prevail, but first it has to get around your lying ass, Sue, and the inept punks who keep trying to shovel the shit off your worthless reputation.  You wanted to be famous - now you have to answer for your sins in public.  Eventually the RD nonsense will be more detrimental than beneficial to you. When RD realizes trying to sanitize the image of a shitbag like you is making them a huge joke, they'll disassociate themselves like you were an incarnation of the clap.  But it will be too late for both of you.


Sue, you've been owned!!!
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