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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2007, 10:46:17 PM »
Hey o5, are you the church lady whose feathers got so ruffled over the "Niles wants to fuck a program mom" thread on Open free for All? Just curious.
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2007, 11:36:20 PM »
Interesting.  

In searching a bit concerning Canadian laws re internet harrassemnt/stalking, there's all kinds of good stuff just by googling something like "Canadian laws cyberstalking" , let alone getting into the actual professional legal literature.


At the TechDirt site for example:

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Chilling Effects In Action: Canadian Bloggers Worried About Legal Threats Stay Quiet
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A few months ago, we had the story of a guy in Canada who was suing a whole bunch of sites because commenters on those sites said things he believed were defamatory. He supposedly even went after a few sites that simply linked to the defamatory material (and then there were claims that he went after sites that simply linked to sites that linked to the supposedly defamatory content). That seems a bit absurd, for obvious reasons. However, an article in Toronto's Globe & Mail notes that it may actually have been effective. Various bloggers have stopped writing about the guy out of a fear of getting sued as well. That, of course, is exactly what the suits were intended to do: to create some "chilling effects" against free speech. While the US laws clearly protect publishers and online services from content they didn't write, Canada doesn't have such protections -- and the chilling effects from that gap in the law are quite clear in this case. There's nothing wrong with using the law against those who actually are making defamatory remarks. However, suing sites that host those remarks or those who simply write about the story itself isn't protecting against defamation. It's going beyond that to intimidate anyone who might normally write about a perfectly legitimate legal issue].



Well psy, like you say, there's always Holland (well, maybe--I don't read Dutch, can't say what those laws are like).
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2007, 12:57:16 AM »
Quote from: ""ottawa5""
In searching a bit concerning Canadian laws re internet harrassemnt/stalking, there's all kinds of good stuff just by googling something like "Canadian laws cyberstalking"


Well. If anybody starts stalking us Fornitscators, we'll be sure to let you know. :lol:
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Re: An interesting point to consider
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2007, 09:20:41 AM »
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In his feeble way, DJ has touched on something that I thought about when I first heard about this astonishing flight out of the United States.

What are the current laws concerning communication media, including the internet, like in Canada?  Certainly, "free speech" is in some ways more restricted than in the United States, in terms of what you can say publicly about minority groups or gays for example (a quick search should verify that this is so).

So what does Canadian law say about internet communication of insutling, obscene, libellous, harassing or threatening material, anonymously or otherwise?

And what Canadian agency should be alerted to such material in order to crack down on it?  Something to look into when I have the time.


Sure, go ahead and "look into it," Anne.  Knock yourself out.  The end result is going to be the same as it was when you "looked into it" when the site was hosted in the US: NOTHING.

Anne, you're a gasbag.  You can huff and puff until you're blue in the face and it won't change a damn thing.  Grow up, pull up your knickers and get on with your life.  Crying like a baby about how you've been "wronged" falls on deaf ears, just like your petty empty threats.

Let me be the first one to tell you from Canada - Go fuck yourself..
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2007, 11:34:29 AM »
So Anne, are you or are you not the 'church lady' from that thread?

Inquiring minds want to know...
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2007, 11:48:12 AM »
Oh, the irony of it all!

First, a little history. Fornits.com was just fine on BareMetal. Several of you militant toughlove hategroup storm troopers have tried threats, bribes and outright lies to get BareMetal to nix this site. Even though there exist some significant differences of opinion between myself and BM's other acitvist customers (which is why I established my own site instead of bringing my issue into MAPInc and DPA) they have steadfastly refused to cow to you bullies each and every time you've tried to stiffle us. The only trouble was that they charge so much for bandwidth that I had to go looking for a more cost effective option. And here we are back in Canada again.

The drug policy reformers are still quite enthralled with the Treatment not Incarceration Judas goat move. I think maybe they'll start reexamining their position on that now that Mitt and Mel are making international headlines. Maybe not. Activists so often become factionalized and militant and, ultimately, closed minded. We'll see.

The irony? The TOUGHLOVE hategroup and all of it's militant drones like O5 are ok with actually torturing and even killing kids, destroying families. That's just fine, so long as we all support their delusion that what they're really doing is saving kids' lives and bringing families back together.

I actually do still snicker a little bit whenever they react with stunned outrage over their victims wishing bad things upon them. Just to be perfectly clear, I don't think it's funny at all that so many people so vehemently wish such horrible things on you. Not at all. I know firsthand what drives that kind of rage. I just think it's funny as hell how you can dish it out but ya just can't take even a written expression of same directed back at you. Pussies! Wimps! Cowards!

 :rofl:

Funnier still? You spoiled yuppie scumbags think a civil suit or public embarassment or the prospect of losing some of your precious stuff is too horrible to even think about. ::roflmao:: Fuck You! LOL I'm made of stone. You have made me and plenty of others like me so jaded, so tough, so far beyond the need for creature comforts and social acceptance that, now that I'm of age and you can't force me into any of your torture camps, you ain't got SHIT that scares me. And some of these younger ones coming up are even tougher.

Sue me! I beg of you, bring this fight back into the public eye in any way you can. I have no assets for you to take. I care not a whit what any fucker thinks of me except my close friends who know better than to listen to idiots like you. Worse case? Some judge orders me to do something I'm unwilling to do and I get to hang out in some local county jail with a bunch of hookers for a month or so. Hands down, by far and away better and more interesting company than when you sadistic bastards forced me into a program for two years.

Hit me with your best shot, cowards! At the end of the day, I can take it. You can't. You made me this way so be careful what you wish for!
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2007, 11:50:05 AM »
Quote from: ""ottawa5""
Interesting.  

In searching a bit concerning Canadian laws re internet harrassemnt/stalking, there's all kinds of good stuff just by googling something like "Canadian laws cyberstalking" , let alone getting into the actual professional legal literature.


In order to be "cyberstalked", dipshit, we would need to be coming after you.  Since you clearly keep returning to us, just what are you going to tell the authorities, huh?  That you keep going on a website that clearly has views diametrically opposed to your pathetically transparent recruitment efforts and you're shocked and upset when people start calling you names?




Dumbass!
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2007, 11:56:49 AM »
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Oh, the irony of it all!

First, a little history. Fornits.com was just fine on BareMetal. Several of you militant toughlove hategroup storm troopers have tried threats, bribes and outright lies to get BareMetal to nix this site. Even though there exist some significant differences of opinion between myself and BM's other acitvist customers (which is why I established my own site instead of bringing my issue into MAPInc and DPA) they have steadfastly refused to cow to you bullies each and every time you've tried to stiffle us. The only trouble was that they charge so much for bandwidth that I had to go looking for a more cost effective option. And here we are back in Canada again.

The drug policy reformers are still quite enthralled with the Treatment not Incarceration Judas goat move. I think maybe they'll start reexamining their position on that now that Mitt and Mel are making international headlines. Maybe not. Activists so often become factionalized and militant and, ultimately, closed minded. We'll see.

The irony? The TOUGHLOVE hategroup and all of it's militant drones like O5 are ok with actually torturing and even killing kids, destroying families. That's just fine, so long as we all support their delusion that what they're really doing is saving kids' lives and bringing families back together.

I actually do still snicker a little bit whenever they react with stunned outrage over their victims wishing bad things upon them. Just to be perfectly clear, I don't think it's funny at all that so many people so vehemently wish such horrible things on you. Not at all. I know firsthand what drives that kind of rage. I just think it's funny as hell how you can dish it out but ya just can't take even a written expression of same directed back at you. Pussies! Wimps! Cowards!

 :rofl:

Funnier still? You spoiled yuppie scumbags think a civil suit or public embarassment or the prospect of losing some of your precious stuff is too horrible to even think about. ::roflmao:: Fuck You! LOL I'm made of stone. You have made me and plenty of others like me so jaded, so tough, so far beyond the need for creature comforts and social acceptance that, now that I'm of age and you can't force me into any of your torture camps, you ain't got SHIT that scares me. And some of these younger ones coming up are even tougher.

Sue me! I beg of you, bring this fight back into the public eye in any way you can. I have no assets for you to take. I care not a whit what any fucker thinks of me except my close friends who know better than to listen to idiots like you. Worse case? Some judge orders me to do something I'm unwilling to do and I get to hang out in some local county jail with a bunch of hookers for a month or so. Hands down, by far and away better and more interesting company than when you sadistic bastards forced me into a program for two years.

Hit me with your best shot, cowards! At the end of the day, I can take it. You can't. You made me this way so be careful what you wish for!


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This needs to be posted over on the TT forum to for SueSue and Izzy to see.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2007, 12:32:33 PM »
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Quote from: ""ottawa5""
Interesting.  

In searching a bit concerning Canadian laws re internet harrassemnt/stalking, there's all kinds of good stuff just by googling something like "Canadian laws cyberstalking" , let alone getting into the actual professional legal literature.

In order to be "cyberstalked", dipshit, we would need to be coming after you.  Since you clearly keep returning to us, just what are you going to tell the authorities, huh?  

Hey! Maybe yous should litigate against ottawa5 for "cyberstalking." :idea: :rofl: ::bwahaha2::
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2007, 12:35:05 PM »
This is sooo great it should be on a tee shirt.  Better yet I am going to print it out and frame it on the wall.
Ginger I wanted to reply and was pondering on this, but you said it so much better than I could ever imagine.
Well said. This should be on the front page of Fornits, but I guess they would not even read it much as the warning on the TTI link.
WOOO HOO go girl ::cheers::  :wave:
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2007, 12:40:20 PM »
?????

Ladies post??

 :(
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2007, 12:43:40 PM »
Well it was 'up' for a minute or two at least.. ((LOL)).
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2007, 12:47:42 PM »
I went to quote it and reply and it was gone.  So quickly.

 ::bwahaha::
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2007, 01:16:24 PM »
Which reminds me of this idea I had of starting a thread consisting of nothing but "offensive" material dedicated to ottawa5.
Let's see just how far we can push the envelope without getting sued.. :rofl:

Just call it "Dedicated to ottawa5" or something...

Someone start it.. thanks.
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2007, 01:46:23 PM »
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Which reminds me of this idea I had of starting a thread consisting of nothing but "offensive" material dedicated to ottawa5.
Let's see just how far we can push the envelope without getting sued.. :rofl:

Just call it "Dedicated to ottawa5" or something...

Someone start it.. thanks.


http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t= ... sc&start=0

Have at it, Frod.
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