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« Reply #91 on: August 02, 2007, 08:03:56 PM »
I would think going public with anything you feel is dangerous would be wise.  Holding information for future use or blackmailing does not seem to be productive.
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« Reply #92 on: August 02, 2007, 09:48:06 PM »
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i think it is unfair to talk shit about Zen... He has a good heart, he is one of the most dedicated people I have ever met.. He wouldnt be working in supporting Izzy... I have high respect for Zen myself. The time and efforts he puts into these issues is unlike anyone I have ever met before meeting Zen.  I think that was totally uncalled for to say that about him.
Seems like today alot of shit has been started... Is it a full moon or something?? Jesus.


And yet everyone else wants to jump on everyone else for one thing. They could all have really good hearts, and I bet if you met most people on here, they would be really good people (well some just sound like middle aged men trying to impress their kid's friends...  but other than that...).  The argument SettleForNothingLess uses is in direct contrast to the argument ZenAgent, Psy and Ts Waygookin are using.  Insults are slung around here as if we are in a hormone filled middle school where the most ignorant rants are awarded the most attention.

Taking from SettleForNothingLess's argument in quotes, it's totally uncalled for to say these things about people who besides the one argument you are completely in agreement with. ZenAgent even went so far as to say he really liked Cafety and ASTART, before the link issue.  And now, they seem to be treated as targets to practice the latest cursing slang.  
btw, zero tolerance is practiced in our schools too.  It ends up with a kid having a pocket knife not being able to go to school for a whole year because of expulsion. Not much gained there.
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« Reply #93 on: August 02, 2007, 10:43:43 PM »
Impress their kids friends? Really, this is not a fucking game.
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« Reply #94 on: August 02, 2007, 11:10:12 PM »
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i think it is unfair to talk shit about Zen... He has a good heart, he is one of the most dedicated people I have ever met.. He wouldnt be working in supporting Izzy... I have high respect for Zen myself. The time and efforts he puts into these issues is unlike anyone I have ever met before meeting Zen.  I think that was totally uncalled for to say that about him.
Seems like today alot of shit has been started... Is it a full moon or something?? Jesus.

And yet everyone else wants to jump on everyone else for one thing. They could all have really good hearts, and I bet if you met most people on here, they would be really good people (well some just sound like middle aged men trying to impress their kid's friends...  but other than that...).  The argument SettleForNothingLess uses is in direct contrast to the argument ZenAgent, Psy and Ts Waygookin are using.  Insults are slung around here as if we are in a hormone filled middle school where the most ignorant rants are awarded the most attention.

Taking from SettleForNothingLess's argument in quotes, it's totally uncalled for to say these things about people who besides the one argument you are completely in agreement with. ZenAgent even went so far as to say he really liked Cafety and ASTART, before the link issue.  And now, they seem to be treated as targets to practice the latest cursing slang.  
btw, zero tolerance is practiced in our schools too.  It ends up with a kid having a pocket knife not being able to go to school for a whole year because of expulsion. Not much gained there.
 

I guess I'm the middle-aged guy you're referring to?  My kid doesn't have any friends on here.  Sorry if the adult language offends you.  Did you not read the warning before entering?  You have full liberty  to post what you want...you also have the ability to leave if what you read offends you, so don't whine about it.  At least we're upfront with our insults, not snide and dismissive.

I still have respect for A START.  If you're really with CAFETY, your the reason I'm going to turn my back on them.  You're too arrogant and not concerned with listening to what anyone is saying.  You've done nothing but whine about the language, insult me for being 41, and basically play the agitator.  If you're the image CAFETY wants to project, CAFETY's in need of a makeover.  

I'm going to get in touch with Brian and see what can be done.  I've been told he may not have a clear understanding of Izzy's antics.  Maybe Brian can gag you, in the interest of mending relations.  There was a poster on here named the who, you really have his tendencies.  That's the most obscene insult I've thrown at  you, Swarmy.

Let me run it by you again:  your connection to CAICA, which is more direct than you want to admit, makes you unethical.  It ties you to escort services and abusive programs like the Whitmore.  Psy wasn't threatening you, he was offering you a clue, but you're too interested in picking fights to pay attention.  Keep to your course, I'll do my best to make sure A START gets the idea about what's going on, and CAFETY might be dangling in the wind without the support of the people who do the actual work, not hang out at film premiers.
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« Reply #95 on: August 02, 2007, 11:12:39 PM »
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Really, this is not a fucking game.


I think it'd be more effective if we did treat it as a fucking game. The person to close the most programs the fastest wins.
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« Reply #96 on: August 02, 2007, 11:26:11 PM »
Swarmy, would you simply tell us why you think NYRA's link to CAICA is appropriate and why we're overreacting?  Obviously you still don't see a problem, even though it's angering a lot of people.  Do you support the use of escort services?  Would you defend someone who threw a kid down a flight of stairs?  Can you in good conscience call yourself ethical and maintain a connection with people who have engaged in the above?
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« Reply #97 on: August 02, 2007, 11:38:11 PM »
I think you might be mixing up guest comments.
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« Reply #98 on: August 02, 2007, 11:45:18 PM »
How many more of these guys are going to come over and keep mauling Caferty's rep?
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« Reply #99 on: August 02, 2007, 11:47:25 PM »
Why would you assume that someone that doesn't take your position is implicitly tied to cafety?
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« Reply #100 on: August 03, 2007, 12:03:20 AM »
Does it really matter?

nope.

Damage is still being done to caferty.
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« Reply #101 on: August 03, 2007, 12:03:36 AM »
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I think you might be mixing up guest comments.


Yeah, are you guys taking shifts as the infernal guest?
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« Reply #102 on: August 03, 2007, 12:10:01 AM »
Psy's site has a link to natsap
Also there is a link to cafety, which links to nyra, which links to caica.

Teenliberty.org has links to Fox news. Which I think we can agree helped to enable the AGs who haven't taken this issue up.

Helpatanycost.com links to cafety.

Nospank.net links to caica.

Tbfight.com links to cafety and antiwwasp and wwasp.

Teenhelpindusty.com links to all these sites.

The referral free zone links to helpatanycost.com which links to cafety which links to nyra which links to caica.

Zero Tolerance.  Get em all.
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« Reply #103 on: August 03, 2007, 12:11:01 AM »
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ZenAgent even went so far as to say he really liked Cafety and ASTART, before the link issue.  And now, they seem to be treated as targets to practice the latest cursing slang.  


A START I spoke with, no problems there.  CAFETY is merde.  So...after a year of being okay with CAFETY, you think I randomly started swinging on them?  Doesn't it seem apparent the "link issue" is a big deal, maybe not to you, but to people who want to see this movement remain ethical?

What is your deal with programs, are you a survivor?  Parent? Or is this purely academic to you?  If all you do is refer to them, I can see why this seems like a non-issue.
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« Reply #104 on: August 03, 2007, 12:43:34 AM »
I went to wwasp programs as a teen.

Please understand I don't like seeing the infighting. That's the sole reason for me posting. I was hoping to try and clear some things up and come to a common ground. I failed. I'll stop posting now.
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