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Offline Walstib14

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« on: May 26, 2003, 12:35:00 AM »
I remember Steve Prophet built a huge playpen out of 2x4's and instructed the phasers who had younger brothers to fill it with toys. He then made a huge to do in morning group when he dragged it in the middle between the girls and boys sides of group.

He made Brad Smith sit in there and and play with all the toys I think he called it baby status. This lasted for weeks.

I also remember that Brads brother Terry had to stand on a skate board for a couple of weeks. He was wheeled from place to place including the bath room. It must have been brutally painfull on his knees and ankles keeping  balance for twelve hours a day .

There were many people who were forced to wear a sponge around thier necks.

There was very young girl she had a brother named Mike Corn.. something... They made her dress up like little doll with a frilly dress and lots od rouge on her cheeks because they said  was too candy coated. She was barely Tweleve.  
:evil: LITTLE GIRLS ARE SUPPOSED TO TALK LIKE THAT YOU SICK FUCK.  :evil:  

How about taking the entire guys side and cramming them into small room doing what was called a bust ass rap that lasted for 2 plus hours. Front to back side to side with no where to move and motivate untill there was condensation rolling down the walls and people were falling out.

My newcomer Steve Smith was forced to sit on a portable pottie in the middle of group  fold his hands twiddle his thumbs and squinch his face like he was defacationg. This humiliation lasted for about a week or more.

I was a big kid and was involved in restaining people. I was so frightened that if I did not restrain people I would then get sat on or worse. I shot enough dope to float a battleship around trying to push down the absolute loathing I felt about that. Holding peoples arms like the way I was taught was brutal. Sitting on them was worse.

 If i did this to anyone who reads this there are no words I could say that wiil take that back. I have paid for it in my own way . I am sorry that I couldn't find enough inner resolve to say no.

Rich
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2003, 11:54:00 AM »
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He made Brad Smith sit in there and and play with all the toys I think he called it baby status. This lasted for weeks.
I had forgotten about this, but I remember it now, especially the term "baby status." Sickening.
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Brads brother Terry had to stand on a skate board for a couple of weeks.
I don't recall the skateboard thing, but I remember they made him wear the same yellow shirt for weeks. I was in the same host home with him while this was going on. His and my oldcomer Steve Lund was a nazi.
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There were many people who were forced to wear a sponge around thier necks
I remember Kevin Grimes was one of them...(do a search on his name on this board and you'll learn more about what happened to him)...who else?
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There was very young girl she had a brother named Mike Corn.. something...
Michelle Cornish?
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How about taking the entire guys side and cramming them into small room doing what was called a bust ass rap that lasted for 2 plus hours. Front to back side to side with no where to move and motivate untill there was condensation rolling down the walls and people were falling out.

I also remember that, along with MG8.
Do you remember Steve Clark having to walk up and down a step ladder for days?
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2003, 07:22:00 PM »
We were all brainrinsed back then.  I was in St. Pete, '78 - '80.  I was not a big guy then (still ain't big, 'cept in the gut LOL), but for some reason, I got fucked with pretty heavily in the early part of my first phase.    I remember hitting the floor a couple of times and being restrained in my chair more times than I can remember.  I don't hold anything against those that did it to me...except maybe this one guy that would drool on me and pinch my nips and stick me in the ribs with small pieces of wood he had ripped up from the chairs we sat in.  Hope life is going well for you ....it is for me.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2003, 02:09:00 AM »
we had a lot of signs and costumes in elan too, man that place just messed with your mind til you snapped and they broke your spirit, well, at least they tried to. im so sorry for anyone that had to go through these "behavior modification centers" . amazing that they are still open and totally sickening, I was 13 when i went there in 1979 and to this day there are things that totally freaking haunt me and i hate it.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2004, 04:49:00 AM »
It was Mike.  And his sisters Kathy and Anne.  I turned 13 a month and a half after the program came up to Springfield from St Pete.  Kathy was 14.  God, it's amazing what we remember....
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2004, 08:35:00 PM »
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 If i did this to anyone who reads this there are no words I could say that wiil take that back. I have paid for it in my own way . I am sorry that I couldn't find enough inner resolve to say no.






Peace and understanding to you Rich. Most of us did things we are not proud of. I helped catch several escapees while at the Seed, Including roughing one of them up a little with a senior staff member... something I am not proud of at all. We brought this kid back to Suzy who was leaning against a car, she looked at him and seethed "get him out of my sight".

Damn, we were all just subjected to madness.  Forgive yourself.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2004, 11:13:00 AM »
I came accross this while looking for some answers to questions about Synanon last night. Thought you might enjoy it.

http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcece ... walker.htm

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much
liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

--Thomas Jefferson, 1791, in a letter to Archibald Stuart

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2004, 01:15:00 AM »
Straight destroyed me to control me. They took away the only thing that was mine at the age of 15. Me. I was a victim with no voice, a minor. It?s taken 18 years of pain and healing to recover from Straight?s damaging effect on me, and the relationships I have had since Straight.

Straight?s forced compliance partnered with it?s dictatorship/brainwash teachings of discipline and confrontation with coercion were enough to drive anyone crazy. It did drive most of us insane. We were intentionally mentally distorted, humiliated daily, and shamed for our past. What past? We were kids ranging from 12 through 17. We were scolded for being who we were and told if we didn?t do things Straight?s way, we would die or end up in jail because of drugs. Many of us, after we got out, did just that. We died or we turned to drugs, because Straight?s way was self-hating, and cruel. I was suicidal for 17 years after my experience in Straight. I was taught to hate everything about who I really was. I was humiliated and fearful my entire stay, with less humiliation only as a fifth phaser.

I would like to see the people responsible for keeping the doors of Straight open held accountable legally for child abuse, and for their "abuse for prophet" methods.  I lost myself there. Do you know how hard it is to get you back once you?ve lost yourself?

I want to spread awareness about these programs, and the damage they do to children and families. I want to help people understand the long-term effects these programs take on children, and how it stunts their growth, and can and has completely destroyed them. Suicides, overdoses resulting in death, chronic depression, posttraumatic stress disorder, anxiety disorders, borderline personality disorder, and psychosis. Afflictions that take years to work through in therapy, costing some people hundreds and thousands of dollars, and many years of anguish and pain of losing yourself before finding yourself. Still, many never recover at all.

Most of all, I want parents to know this is not an option for their kids. These programs are the wrong answer to a difficult problem called, "Raising teenagers." Listening and loving, communication and/or long term therapy with patience, not confinement. Kid?s are not our clay to mold, they are extensions of ourselves, but not ours. My daughter is my responsibility to raise, not an institution?s, run buy children that went through the program that went through, that went through. Straight and Straight-like programs teach cult mentality, and force conformity over individuality, therefor destroying the young impressionable innocence which is our children?s souls, who grow up to be adults without souls. Adults without souls are lost and broken people. Torture does not heal, it destroys.

I was there. I actually saw the blood on the walls of those timeout rooms. The tallies carved into the walls by the ones who were in there, everyday, being punished with solitary confinement, starvation and beatings. The screams and cries, the restraints, being spit on, kicked, yelled at, cussed at, embarrassed and degraded day after day.

After a while, you?d have to be completely mad not to conform, even if that meant losing yourself completely.

There was a guy that did all his time in Dallas in utter silence. Just sat there, and refused to participate completely for around two years. They finally just released him because his insurance ran out. He killed himself not long after his release.

To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them...
-- Richard Henry Lee, 1787

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2004, 04:00:00 PM »
wow....i appreciate your post...you know, the other day i was talking to another ex straightling, and i was almost thinking that it wasn't too bad in dallas ...ya right...though by 91 when i was there, they did considerably chill out, but they still abused our minds just as bad..i was only in straight for 3-4 months, but it took years of counseling and all other sorts of shit to make me feel somewhat like a person again ya know...have a groovy life

If you believe that people cannot be trusted to govern themselves,
then can they be trusted to govern others?
 
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2004, 02:40:00 AM »
I must know you I rember all of that.  What a bunch of dick heads.  I think we all had to sit on some one to move to another phase.  It was the only way to servive.  It was a long time ago.  i'm trying to let it go.  please e-mwil me.  At coreybfll@aol.com
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