Author Topic: Manufacturer of restraints (Peninsula Village etc.) (Read 5691 times)

Covergaard · « **on:** July 20, 2007, 06:53:45 PM »

In the parent manual for PV the name two kind of mechanical restraint:

a) Body net. Is that the posey Restraint net?

b) Restraint jacket. According to their description in the manual the purpose is to keep the arm tucked to the side. It does not fit the description of the normal posey jacket:
Photo
but maybe the transport jacket
Photo.

I think we need to show the parents, what they risk their children end up being restrained in.

stoodoodog · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2007, 08:00:12 PM »

Quote from: ""Covergaard""

In the parent manual for PV the name two kind of mechanical restraint:

a) Body net. Is that the posey Restraint net?

b) Restraint jacket. According to their description in the manual the purpose is to keep the arm tucked to the side. It does not fit the description of the normal posey jacket:
Photo
but maybe the transport jacket
Photo.

I think we need to show the parents, what they risk their children end up being restrained in.

When my child was restrained at PV, one of the staffers held up a restraint jacket that looks more like the first photo- the posey jacket with a red heart on it. To my knowledge they never actually used it, but with several staffers sitting on her there was no need for it. Perhaps the person who was restrained so many times at PV can give us more input.

SettleForNothingLess · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2007, 08:35:42 PM »

Quote from: ""Covergaard""

In the parent manual for PV the name two kind of mechanical restraint:

a) Body net. Is that the posey Restraint net?

b) Restraint jacket. According to their description in the manual the purpose is to keep the arm tucked to the side. It does not fit the description of the normal posey jacket:
Photo
but maybe the transport jacket
Photo.

I think we need to show the parents, what they risk their children end up being restrained in.

yep they use the posey restraint.,, i remember that fucking thiing verrrrry well

Covergaard · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2007, 03:27:26 AM »

The website is updated.

They use a color-code, so if you mention red, the weight of the person should be between 80-120 lbs. They do however also have an X-small, 60-90 lbs (Click on this pdf-link to the manual.)

In all countries - also mine - a person in such a jacket should be monitored at all time. That explains their excuse for charging the parent extra for the use of the jacket.

The bed restraint remains. (I do know that it is not a pleasent memory.) Is it the posey net?

SettleForNothingLess · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2007, 06:20:41 PM »

yep its that posey net... the picture is just like it... and they DO NOT supervise u
they leave u there all day sometimes into the night and completely ignore you most of the time...they come by once in a while but no not monitor u... they dont care.

but then a treatment center that would put a kid in there...im not suprised they dont care

SettleForNothingLess · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2007, 06:24:42 PM »

also to add about the posey body net info, they also include another section for your ankles..as if the net is not enough, they add that to it also....
the net and then a separate piece for your ankles

Covergaard · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2007, 07:02:15 AM »

By separate piece, do you mean Leather cuffs?

I believe that that Posey developed their items for adults and because you and the other detainees were smaller than the target group, they had to prevent your legs from being able to be on the same side of the strap going down the middle between the legs, which would have enable you to sleep a little on your side and perhaps have lighten the punishment of being restrained a little.

The manual for the restraint net calls for tights straps so an adult can not bend their legs enough to get pass the strap in the middle.

The strategy seems that they use restraints to get results instead of preventing the detainees from hurting themselves. And leaving your unsupervised at any moment is very dangerous and illegal in my country (Properly also in some parts of your country where the facility is not a large employer with influence on the politicians.).

Perhaps it is even the point to degrade the detainees. We had a scandal some years ago where they restrained elderlies and kept them lying all morning (They even turned the diapers if the person had only done number 1, so they could save money on diapers).

I will not ask about diapers because I guess that they woke you too early in order to use that strategy.

Anonymous · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2007, 10:57:17 AM »

There is a crackling in the air, and the smell of ozone, along with another source of light and heat.

There's two someones who are getting really, really pissed....

Anonymous · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2007, 12:45:02 PM »

I was restrained with restraints a few times in psychiatric type settings, they do it for pretty much the same reasons as the program I was at , only at the program it was like the white trash home version, so they just got some fat dude to sit on your elbows behind your back until you cry uncle and say you will comply with whatever they are trying to get you to do and then just throw you in isolation for three four five days, or maybe up to a week. If you are quiet and behave the whole time you can get out after those days, if you still are not complying they just keep you in there. But back in the hospital.
The restraints were the individual leather cuffs, those huge looking all leather cuffs that go around wrist and ankles. They also had a seperate waist band. It looked like a weight lifting belt, only bigger. It was also leather. They also had a head strap, to tie your head down to the table. I was restrained on a metal table that had a small 1/2" pad and then a white sheet over that. I was restrained face down on the table and several big people held me down until they got them all tight and then lastly they tighten the head strap one so your face is being pushed down into the sheet. I struggled a little when they walked out to see if I could get loose because it was so uncomfortable but eventually I just had to give up because I couldn't move an inch. They had a video camera in the corner watching me. They would have me stay like that for an hour then let me out, if I stopped making noise or yelling or whatever they'd let me out to just live in the isolation room for 24 hours, if I started banging on the wall they would come bnack and put me in the restraints. THis was in a hospital with doctors and phones and all the rules so this was all on the up and up, or so I was told. I thought it was pretty weird why were they trying to domesticate me and trying to get me to 'break' to their will I don't think that's cool, they could of just let me out. I didnt committ any crime that particular hospital vistit I was put in for drug use and cutting... eventually historically I think these ways of dealing with adolescents and humans in general will be seen as barbaric.

nimdA · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2007, 12:59:40 PM »

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eventually historically I think these ways of dealing with adolescents and humans in general will be seen as barbaric.

The fact that they aren't now gives me pause. Good post.. just goes to show the much lauded psychiatric centers aren't as safe as we believe them to be. Certainly I will bear it in mind for the future.

Anonymous · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2007, 01:33:19 PM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

There is a crackling in the air, and the smell of ozone, along with another source of light and heat.

There's two someones who are getting really, really pissed....

Im still pissed 3 years later... no not pissed...livid

Anonymous · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2007, 02:22:40 PM »

I also should add. Before the restraint happened to me in psych hospital setting, they gave me a choice - take this cup of liquid Thorazine, or we will give you this shot by force- I never got the shot but I drank a few cups of thorazine and that makes you jello in about 20 seconds flat. I never saw anything like that in the backwoods private program I had the pleasure of attending. They just use brute force, same effect. The end result is similar, the methods are slightly different though. The medical one might look tamer but it certainly feels just as violating IMHO. Anyways.. :cry2:

SettleForNothingLess · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2007, 02:32:25 PM »

I could use a bottle of liquid thorazine right about now before i lose it and make my fantasies aka their worst nightmares come true....
HAHAHAHAHA

Those motherfuckers....
:evil:

Covergaard · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2007, 03:31:04 PM »

Texas has banned a restraint board from Humane Restraint (Funny name - must be satire). Picture and Article text.

Where PV seems to use Posey as main supplier, the description given by the poster in the hospital must have got their supplies from humane restraints. See page 31 where you can buy a set for all the body.

The two major players in the industri is Posey and Humane Restraint.

I am missing a supplier for the head strap.

BTW. I am not against restraints totally. Sometime it can be useful in a car accident so the victim does not get additional damages by moving around. You can restrain all sizes from baby to adult very easily An example.

Anonymous · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2007, 03:47:02 PM »

Yeah, like medically-necessary restraints on severely injured people to prevent inadvertent suicide through moving the wrong thing is even in the same department as what we discuss here.

Covergaard, you're getting very close to me ripping your own perverted fantasies out of your head (yeah, he has 'em.. lots of 'em.. with just enough sanity not to try it in real life..) and brutalizing you with them.

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