Sharing the Love, Spreading the Good Word

[Ursus]

Wonder how they're doing now?  Ten years at Hyde is quite a good bit of percolating.  Somehow the math doesn't quite jibe... Four years at Palmer Trinity with "more than a decade" at Woodstock prior to that, and the article came out in 2005...  Would bring you at least as far back as 1991.  When did Woodstock open?  Perhaps he was at Bath prior to Woodstock?

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St. Petersburg Times Article

St. Petersburg Times - St. Petersburg, Fla.
JEFFREY S. SOLOCHEK
May 1, 2005
Section:    NORTH OF TAMPA
Copyright Times Publishing Co. May 1, 2005

Carrollwood Day School has hired a principal to begin preparing its foray into high school.

Tom Stoup, 54, has been lead adviser at the Palmer Trinity School in Miami for the past four years. He worked at Hyde School, a well- known private boarding school in Connecticut, for more than a decade.

 "I feel real fortunate to be able to come in a year in advance and do a lot of the behind the scenes work to get the program molded," Stoup said.

The high school opens in 2006, when Carrollwood Day moves to the old Idlewild Baptist Church campus on Bearss Avenue. It will begin with about 200 ninth- and 10th-graders.

Head of school Mary Kanter said Stoup stood out in the candidate pool because of his strong understanding of independent schools. He also has a background in character education, which Carrollwood Day emphasizes.

"He's on the same wavelength as us, philosophically," Kanter said.

Carrollwood Day will serve as a prototype high school for character education researchers Thomas Lickona and Matt Davidson. It will implement the Smart and Good High Schools program the researchers have determined help people to lead productive lives.

The school also recently earned its accreditation as a pre- International Baccalaureate school. Kanter says the high school eventually will try to win similar credentials for the academically challenging program.

Carrollwood Day School opened in 1981 and has been expanding since. It purchased the Idlewild Baptist Church site for $10.9- million, and now is in the middle of a capital campaign. It has raised about $1.2-million of its $3-million goal.


Abstract (Document Summary)
   
The high school opens in 2006, when Carrollwood Day moves to the old Idlewild Baptist Church campus on Bearss Avenue. It will begin with about 200 ninth- and 10th-graders.

Head of school Mary Kanter said [Tom Stoup] stood out in the candidate pool because of his strong understanding of independent schools. He also has a background in character education, which Carrollwood Day emphasizes.

[Anonymous]

Stoup worked in Bath on 3 different occasions...totalling more than a decade.  It was probably an oversite by the author of this article.

[Anonymous]

Who are these guys?


http://www.cortland.edu/character/bios.htm



http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... _n16021242

http://www.csee.org/best.html

http://www.cortland.edu/character/Davidson.asp

[Ursus]

Who are these guys?

Thomas Lickona, Ph.D.

Dr. Thomas Lickona is a developmental psychologist and Professor of Education at the State University of New York at Cortland, where he has done award-winning work in teacher education and currently directs the Center for the Fourth and Fifth Rs (Respect and Responsibility). He has also been a visiting professor at Boston and Harvard Universities.

A past president of the Association for Moral Education, Dr. Lickona serves on the Board of Directors of the Character Education Partnership and the advisory councils of Character Counts Coalition and Medical Institute for Sexual Health.

Dr. Lickona is a frequent consultant to schools on character education and a frequent speaker at conferences for teachers, parents, religious educators, and other groups concerned about the moral development of young people. He has lectured across the United States and in Canada, Japan, Singapore, Switzerland, Ireland, and Latin America on the subject of teaching moral values in the school and in the home.

Dr. Lickona holds a Ph.D. in psychology from the State University of New York at Albany and has done research on the growth of children's moral reasoning. He has been named a State University of New York Faculty Exchange Scholar and the recipient of the Distinguished Alumni Award from the State University of New York at Albany.

His publications include a graduate text, Moral Development and Behavior (1976); a popular book for parents, Raising Good Children (1983); a book describing his 12-point character education program, Educating for Character: How Our Schools Can Teach Respect and Responsibility (1991); and a collection of essays by various authors, Character Development in Schools and Beyond (1992). Educating for Character has been praised as "the definitive work in the field."

[Ursus]

Will this be added to the parental "required reading" list anytime soon?

He mentions the title of the book so many times in this short bit, I think he must be taking lessons from Sue Scheff.

From Malcolm's blog:

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Hyde Symposium Notes #2
8/6/2007

We were also treated to an excellent presentation by Matt Davidson and Kathy Fisher of IEE, the Institute for Excellence and Ethics. Matt has worked for many years with Thomas Lickona, author of the seminal Educating for Character (1993), at The Center for the 4th & 5th Rs (Respect and Responsibility) at SUNY-Cortland. Matt and Tom have recently written a book called Smart & Good High Schools where they feature the best practices of the scores of schools they have visited in recent years. I'm proud to say that Hyde's work figures prominently in Smart & Good High Schools.

Matt and Kathy spoke of two kinds of character: performance character and moral character. Performance character speaks to those attributes like persistence, effort, stick-to-itiveness. Moral character refers to our honesty and our moral compass. The person of character has developed both hand-in-hand.

Smart & Good High Schools identifies "four keys."

[Anonymous]

An example of this at Hyde might be auditions or an athletic event

  So Character at Hyde is a kind of secular Calvinism.  If you can demonstrate your Character by performing well on stage or on the sports field, you have character.  The character will fill you with a secular holy spirit that will lift your ability to perform.  
  This all goes back to something I have posted before.   You can't measure it. You can't quantify it.  You can claim you teach it with a straight face because there is no way to verify the claim except by the one thing that Hyde is afraid to do: track graduates life long.  
 It seems that graduates don't have much of a taste for being tracked, well at least the ones from 67,72,77,82,87,92,97,2002 since the reunion weekend was called off this year at Bath.

[Anonymous]

They don't have to track graduates--all the ones they care about married into the Gauld family and/or teach at Hyde. (Admittedly a large slice of  the alumni population).

What was the reason given for calling off reunions? (I've escaped the mailing list).

[Anonymous]

They don't have to track graduates--all the ones they care about married into the Gauld family and/or teach at Hyde. (Admittedly a large slice of  the alumni population).

What was the reason given for calling off reunions? (I've escaped the mailing list).

   No reason given other then there were words about how it would work better next year.  Hyde, an institution not known for transparency, would be reticent to say something like "not enough people signed up,"  but reading between the lines and given their demonstrated proclivity to leave no pocket book behind, would not have turned their back on the possibility of well heeled amun coming to visit unless there was clearly no break even point in site.  Sorry just some true over harmony for ya.

[Ursus]

(An example of this at Hyde might be auditions or an athletic event.)

During all my time at Hyde, I remember that athletic effort and getting in front of people and doing some soul exposition were some of the prime ways of developing my character.  This is why they were compulsory.  They were that integral to "the process."

As bizarre as it may sound, I never questioned this facet of Hyde's methods.  Seemed to make sense to me, right?

It never occurred to me to factor in the demographics of the typical Hyde student at the boarding schools, and how that might play into it.  Many of the kids who go to the boarding schools are not used to compulsory athletics and performing on stage, and rebel against it.

Consider the typical Hyde student who goes to one of the Hyde Charter Schools, which are usually located in some horribly depressed city or neighborhood, whose kids eagerly welcome a chance to shine in the limelight somehow, 'cause that's about the closest thing to positive attention they've gotten in a long time, at least from someone that's not family... and for whom sports is one of the few tried and true possible ways out of that ghetto, and in which anyone who is any good at it will try their damn hardest to play that card.

Let us consider Hyde Leadership School of Greater New Haven.  As I recall it, a long-closed school (?) in the New Haven area was bought up by Hyde and turned into one of the Hyde Charter Schools in 1993.  That area has historically always had particularly good football teams.  Here is something I found on their website, bolding is per their website, color emphasis is mine:

Hyde is the

smallest high school in the state and yet its football team has won the state championship in its league several times. At Hyde, sports are seen as a way to build character. They are a privilege that must be earned based on academics and behavior.

http://www.nhps.net/IDM/Hyde/About.asp[/list]
Not so compulsory here, eh?

The students at Hyde-Bath and Hyde-Woodstock tend

not to be inclined to push themselves to the limit at sports, so Hyde makes it compulsory for them.

The students at Hyde-New Haven are dying to compete in sports so Hyde makes it a carrot to dangle in front of their noses, a "priviledge" contingent on their behavior.[/list]

What's it all about, Alfie?

[Anonymous]

I like the John Scofield cover of Alfie which was featured in the movie remake. I have heard it live several times.  I love John.  He is like a cross between Jerry Garcia and Jim Hall.  Great Hal David lyric.  

What's it all about, Alfie?
Is it just for the moment we live?
What's it all about when you sort it out, Alfie?
Are we meant to take more than we give
or are we meant to be kind?
And if only fools are kind, Alfie,
then I guess it's wise to be cruel.
And if life belongs only to the strong, Alfie,
what will you lend on an old golden rule?
As sure as I believe there's a heaven above, Alfie,
I know there's something much more,
something even non-believers can believe in.
I believe in love, Alfie.
Without true love we just exist, Alfie.
Until you find the love you've missed you're nothing, Alfie.
When you walk let your heart lead the way
and you'll find love any day, Alfie, Alfie.

  You know Sonny Rollins did the score for the Micheal Caine Alfie.  He put out a live album with Alfie's Theme on it featuring a bag pipe solo.

If only fools are kind ....

[Ursus]

If only fools are kind ....

...then I guess it's wise to be cruel.

Yeah.  I can hear the music now, in the back of my mind, tinkling away... 60s optimism, innocence, before the psychodelia, wistful... yet sad... tragic.

'Cause Alfie never did get it, did he?  At least not in the original Michael Caine version; I didn't see the remake.

Probably Hyde will never get it either.  How many lives will be destroyed by them 'till they fizzle out, or get bought out and absorbed into one of the larger behavior modification organizations?  Did you know that Elan is now NATSAP?  I think it is only a matter of time, perhaps when Terry or Krugilick die, before Elan will be bought up to become part of "The Aspen Collection."

[Anonymous]

I am fascinated by the blogs and rarely post anywhere.   but, I have an interest in the answers and the jury out.  Did NOT see of this info before placing kid there, but again JURY out and all of you folk seem a tad old and actually my age to be dealing with what is going on now.   Despite my reservations about posting herein, I think you all miss what is going on.  has ANYONE looked at "revolutionary" or "debunked" (depends on what you read) psychic named Cayce from virginia beach (do the wikipedia or google), who might have been influential enough (despite his critics) to influence the old man, Gauld?   I think that there is something to this.  If so, the conservatives you claim (donner and walmart) who support him now would cringe and crap if they saw his views side by side with the liberal, psychic and father of new age stuff.   so if the aim is to cut off funding, make the connection to something the conservatives cannot sanction--something not Christian in its truest sense.  Cayce taught that all souls have a purpose in life (sound eerily familiar?).  Was a "seer" folks, a psychic.  He describes phenomenon like Gauld does in his speech to all new parents about the new years' eve party wherein he changes his life, forever.  So, what if this guy is a nutcase follower of Cayce who has blinded the right wing to his liberal agenda? What if the education is only secondary (and apparently successful) foray into his new age, past lives agenda???  anyone for a legitimate CURRENT discussion of what is going on there NOW?

[Ursus]

I am fascinated by the blogs and rarely post anywhere.   but, I have an interest in the answers and the jury out.  Did NOT see of this info before placing kid there, but again JURY out and all of you folk seem a tad old and actually my age to be dealing with what is going on now.   Despite my reservations about posting herein, I think you all miss what is going on.  has ANYONE looked at "revolutionary" or "debunked" (depends on what you read) psychic named Cayce from virginia beach (do the wikipedia or google), who might have been influential enough (despite his critics) to influence the old man, Gauld?   I think that there is something to this.  If so, the conservatives you claim (donner and walmart) who support him now would cringe and crap if they saw his views side by side with the liberal, psychic and father of new age stuff.   so if the aim is to cut off funding, make the connection to something the conservatives cannot sanction--something not Christian in its truest sense.  Cayce taught that all souls have a purpose in life (sound eerily familiar?).  Was a "seer" folks, a psychic.  He describes phenomenon like Gauld does in his speech to all new parents about the new years' eve party wherein he changes his life, forever.  So, what if this guy is a nutcase follower of Cayce who has blinded the right wing to his liberal agenda? What if the education is only secondary (and apparently successful) foray into his new age, past lives agenda???  anyone for a legitimate CURRENT discussion of what is going on there NOW?

Well, well, well, I'm going to be taking this real slow.

First off, reallydiff, did you send your kid to Hyde?
Second, Do you have reason to believe that Gauld and Cayce ever corresponded?
Third, if so, what makes you think that Joe Gauld lends any credence to Cayce's visions, if that is what they are, let alone where Cayce was coming from, i.e., from a more or less humanitarian point of view.  'Cause, to my humble understanding, they were or would not be coming from the same planet, metaphorically speaking.

[Anonymous]

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you folk seem a tad old and actually my age to be dealing with what is going on now


 Really?  How old is too old?

[Ursus]

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you folk seem a tad old and actually my age to be dealing with what is going on now

Really?  How old is too old?

It is a popular sentiment ingrained in our culture:  "get over it already."  Dwell on it too long, and something is wrong with you, not the experience.

The older I get, the longer the path ahead stretches out before me.  I ain't never gonna get there, folks!