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« Reply #180 on: June 25, 2007, 07:21:19 PM »
ZEN

I thought I said the school was TB
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #181 on: June 25, 2007, 07:26:17 PM »
According to Buzzkill,  Izzy talked the ear off of some WWASPS kid to the tune of $800.00 bucks and has yet to reimburse the poor kid, so please, friend of IZZY's, drop some coin into the CAICA donation bucket so your pal can put her money where her mouth is.

As for TB, from what I hear, there are dozens of people who have called for an investigation by the Jamaican authorities into allegations of abuse and apparently, gotten the same response but don't tell IZZY.  Seems she thinks she's the only one.  :rofl:
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Re: Sue
« Reply #182 on: June 25, 2007, 07:30:40 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest1""
Wow, you're a very angry person, however, rest assured I am not Sue, did you not read the rest of my posts?

Did you now read that I am a parent who is also in the lawsuit against WWASP?


Then what is your motivation to defend Isabelle Zehnder?

This sounds like a conveniently timed crock personally... Especially since your explanation gives Sue a convenient "out"...  claiming _you_ gave the escort recommendation to Isabelle.  That is very noble of you.  Yet you won't mention the abusive school your son was in, or what out of country program.  You claim Isabelle asked you, of all people, for the name of an escort service when she already _has_ PURE, which recommends a host of them (not publicly named of course).  She must either distrust PURE, or think that you have an immense depth of knowledge when it comes to adolescent transport.  Wow.  You should feel flattered.

Sorry, but I call bullshit.  Your story does NOT add up.  Parent my ass.  You're either Sue, or reputation defender.  If you're the latter, I suggest you dump your client before she drags your company's name through the mud.

Explain this: Why did Izzy accidentally confuse the number for Sunrise Transport with that of Midwest Academy?  Why would she have that number on hand or memorized.  Will another "Guest" come to the defense of Izzy?
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« Reply #183 on: June 25, 2007, 07:31:22 PM »
I don't know Izzy, Sue or any other person than Isabelle, but go to her site, you'll see that the Magistrate of Education is finally launching an investigation, and it's true about TB, they are tranferring the kids out and home or to other facilities back here in the states, siting finances from what I hear...bullshit!
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #184 on: June 25, 2007, 07:33:04 PM »
Izzy must be bored today because these posts by Guest 1 have Zehnder's signature "attitude" all over them.  

Oh well.  It's almost dinner time on the West Coast.  

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« Reply #185 on: June 25, 2007, 07:44:04 PM »
I said he went to TB.  I just found this site so I don't know who to trust.  I am not a basher, just a concerned parent and you are not treating me very nice, which is a shame.  I already took heat from other program parents for even sharing what happened to my son, and the other two boys at TB because they said by telling people I was boarderline bashing WWASP, now I come here and you are bashing me.  Screw it!
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Re: Program
« Reply #186 on: June 25, 2007, 07:44:45 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest1""
ZEN

I thought I said the school was TB


No need to shout at me.  Yes, I got TB, and that's not news to any of us.  It's the Black Hole of hell, common knowledge.  That's only one out of three, though.  We've heard about the ugly, now tell us about the good and the bad...

(Whistles the riff from "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly")
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #187 on: June 25, 2007, 07:45:54 PM »
Guest 1
Did Isabelle offer you her "coaching services" to help you through this great traumatic time your were going through with this mis-behaving son of yours?
How long was Sunrise Adolescent Transport in your home when they came in and kidnapped thiis beloved son of yours?
Think the time-limit quote given by the ex-WWASP employee Julie Thompson was: "We can be in and out of your house in 4 minutes; because we don't even let the kid go to the bathroom; the kid can pee at the airport."

How long were these paid thugs in your home?
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Re: Missing the posts
« Reply #188 on: June 25, 2007, 07:50:47 PM »
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I said he went to TB.  I just found this site so I don't know who to trust.  I am not a basher, just a concerned parent and you are not treating me very nice, which is a shame.  I already took heat from other program parents for even sharing what happened to my son, and the other two boys at TB because they said by telling people I was boarderline bashing WWASP, now I come here and you are bashing me.  Screw it!


Bashing you? hardly.  I just don't see what your interest is in defending Isabelle Zehnder, or why she would be asking you for transport services, when she already has other resources at her disposal.  The timing is also suspect.  Sue is on the defensive right now, and has publicly employed a service known as "Reputation Defender" to go about the internet posting things to save her hide.

So, here's one good question(out of quite a few you deflected by claiming offense):

Why would Izzy be asking you for transport resources?

This is not an attack... simply a question.
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« Reply #189 on: June 25, 2007, 07:51:07 PM »
You state this is a safe place to come, yet you've called me a liar, accused me of being someone else, accused me of some affiliation with Isabelle and I don't know who else...this has not been a safe place at all.  Thanks for nothing and for treating me poorly.  You can't trust anyone, you've made that quite clear!

So screw WWASP, so called safe sites, and SCREW YOU!
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Re: Safehaven
« Reply #190 on: June 25, 2007, 08:02:59 PM »
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You state this is a safe place to come, yet you've called me a liar, accused me of being someone else, accused me of some affiliation with Isabelle and I don't know who else...this has not been a safe place at all.  Thanks for nothing and for treating me poorly.  You can't trust anyone, you've made that quite clear!

So screw WWASP, so called safe sites, and SCREW YOU!


In other words, you can't answer the question.

NEXT!!!!!!
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #191 on: June 25, 2007, 08:03:33 PM »
Odd the parent can't disclose the name of the program her son was sent to on the advice of some other program parent.  What's the problem?  Afraid to find out it's on FORNITS' or ISAC's watchlist?

http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp

Note:  PURE and CAICA on ISAC watchlist.

Oooops.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #192 on: June 25, 2007, 08:22:29 PM »
I'm also questioning Izzy's foray into Wraparound treatment.  My first instinct says, "her very involvement means a good thing is about to be exploited for a buck,"  and I trust my gut and my knowledge of Izzy's track record.  (History, I mean.  Izzy doesn't look like she runs, unless there's a Super-sized Biggie meal waiting for her...)

Her plug says if her "team" fails and decides the only recourse is residential treatment, they'll guide you through it.  I wonder who they guide you to for a referral of a nice RTC?  Das Fuhrer of EdCons, SS?
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Re: Safehaven
« Reply #193 on: June 25, 2007, 08:26:42 PM »
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You state this is a safe place to come, yet you've called me a liar, accused me of being someone else, accused me of some affiliation with Isabelle and I don't know who else...this has not been a safe place at all.  Thanks for nothing and for treating me poorly.  You can't trust anyone, you've made that quite clear!

So screw WWASP, so called safe sites, and SCREW YOU!


Whoever you are - you obviously have a passive-aggressive personality which would qualify you as either a program parent or program apologist,
child-referral-advocate, paid kidnapper, etc.

Don't feel bad.  You certainly aren't the first or the last poser to have your ass kicked to the curb by the Fornits bullshit patrol.

 :rofl:
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« Reply #194 on: June 25, 2007, 08:27:05 PM »
Alright, I will give you all one more chance.

I said Sunrise was great.  They walked in, nicely, quietly woke him up, they helped him get dressed, walked him downstairs and even asked if he wanted to give us all a hug, which he didn't, obviously, they put him in the car and drove to the airport and then let him talk to me on the phone and said they were very nice.  They were here for about 20 minutes.  I don't remember them saying they can come in and out in 4 seconds or minutes or whatever it was you eluded to.  I know some transport companies have treated kids poorly, this wasn't my experience, and we found them through another source, not through WWASP, also I don't know anything about PURE until today.

My son's school is not on the list, it's Red Rock Canyon School, you can go to their website, I believe it's www.redrockcanyonschools.com, but don't quote me as I don't have my son's file in front of me right now.  Now what I want to know is why you would even want to know what school he is at?

Also, sorry for getting pissed off, but I have been through enought these past couple of months.  Obviously I am not working my program.

As for Isabelle, I liked her, and she helped me through a very traumatic time, when we were in Jamaica I did not know what to do, I even called Midwest and asked them to take him back, that's where he was kicked out of, and I told them what I saw, and they were willing until TB got my email that I was pulling him and Sunrise would be there the next day so get him ready, he's going to Midwest, he was almost level 5, and that FR B found a way to drop him to level 2 so that Midwest then refused to take him, which turned out to be a good thing anyway, because he's not at Red Rock and happy, in fact, he wants to stay there and go to college in the town and move to their sober living house.
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