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« Reply #165 on: June 25, 2007, 05:55:26 PM »
I am a very nice person/mother, and don't think your attacks on me are warrented.

As for my son and Sunrise, they are very nice people, they came and took my son from my home the 1st time, the second time because he was expelled from the school, the third time because where I placed him, students were being abused, saw it for myself, so I got him out of there the easiest way it could be done.  He is very happy where he is now, and I am very happy with where he is.  Hope that helps.

And, I am not SUE
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #166 on: June 25, 2007, 05:58:32 PM »
Perhaps Isabelle can use this as a testimonial, as she has now been confirmed, by you, to use Sunrise transport. Stop watering down the term child-advocate and call yourself Edcons, and stop using abuse to sell your programs and services, it's distasteful and hurtful to those of us who actually lived it. I hope you understand this.
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« Reply #167 on: June 25, 2007, 06:04:00 PM »
I don't sell the programs, never have, never will, and am so not a WWASP fan.  For those who know me, I know of the abuse first hand.  So please don't confuse me with WWASP.  Thank you.
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« Reply #168 on: June 25, 2007, 06:05:51 PM »
Guest

You are still twisting my words, using and referring because someone asked them to find one for them are not the same thing.
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« Reply #169 on: June 25, 2007, 06:08:10 PM »
I almost forgot, FYI I just joined the lawsuit against WWASP
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« Reply #170 on: June 25, 2007, 06:13:23 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest1""
I am a very nice person/mother, and don't think your attacks on me are warrented.

As for my son and Sunrise, they are very nice people, they came and took my son from my home the 1st time, the second time because he was expelled from the school, the third time because where I placed him, students were being abused, saw it for myself, so I got him out of there the easiest way it could be done.  He is very happy where he is now, and I am very happy with where he is.  Hope that helps.

And, I am not SUE


I'm not going to speculate on who you are or attack you.  I do have questions:

1.  Was your son handcuffed?

2.  Did he resist, and if so how did the escorts respond?  Did they
     inform you of their policies on handling resistance?

I'm sure you won't provide this information, but what programs was your son in before reaching this unnamed haven?  If you've personally observed kids being abused at a program, I encourage you to identify the facility to keep other kids from being placed there.
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\"Allah does not love the public utterance of hurtful speech, unless it be by one to whom injustice has been done; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing\" - The Qur\'an

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A PV counselor\'s description of his job:

\"I\'m there to handle kids that are psychotic, suicidal, homicidal, or have commited felonies. Oh yeah, I am also there to take them down when they are rowdy so the nurse can give them the booty juice.\"

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« Reply #171 on: June 25, 2007, 06:19:30 PM »
My son, whom I love, was handled with care, they were very nice, even let him call me, and took very good care of him, he's even said so.  No, no handcuffs, and no resistence, but I have heard that they may or may not, but not my circumstances.

Through Isabelle, the Embassy, both, the State Department, Child Welfare, Unicef, and the Magistrate of Education were all notified, given Declarations by myself and my daughter who witnessed it, and the names of the boys who were being abused.  My son was also injured while there, and at the time, and even know, the facility claims no fault.

I am not going to state where he is now, but lets just say he's back in the country and safe and doing very well, and actually happy with where he is.
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« Reply #172 on: June 25, 2007, 06:27:51 PM »
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Guest

You are still twisting my words, using and referring because someone asked them to find one for them are not the same thing.


Oops, having a hard time keeping up with the back peddling?

Relax, Anon.  We get it.  IZZY referred a parent to Sunrise Adolescent Transport, who transports to WWASPS programs.  Kind of hard to spin that into a positive but feel free to keep trying to unring the bell.  

Izzy also refers to PURE who recommends unregulated programs like these three which .... GASP ... are no longer in operation.

Whitmore Academy
Skyline Journey
Red Rock Ranch Academy

Next? The ball is in your court.

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« Reply #173 on: June 25, 2007, 06:40:24 PM »
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My son, whom I love, was handled with care, they were very nice, even let him call me, and took very good care of him, he's even said so.  No, no handcuffs, and no resistence, but I have heard that they may or may not, but not my circumstances.

Through Isabelle, the Embassy, both, the State Department, Child Welfare, Unicef, and the Magistrate of Education were all notified, given Declarations by myself and my daughter who witnessed it, and the names of the boys who were being abused.  My son was also injured while there, and at the time, and even know, the facility claims no fault.

I am not going to state where he is now, but lets just say he's back in the country and safe and doing very well, and actually happy with where he is.


Who helped you to replace your child after taking him out of this foreign based program which I presume is Tranquility Bay?
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« Reply #174 on: June 25, 2007, 06:46:00 PM »
You might just want to get ready to add TB to the list of closing schools, at least that's the latest going around.

As for referrals, Isabelle had none for me, she did not offer, in fact, was more against me trying to replace him.  I was actually given the name by another parent who I know who also pulled their kid from a WWASP program.

Backpeddling...hmm...you really like to get your heels dug in don't you?
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« Reply #175 on: June 25, 2007, 07:02:12 PM »
Sue, I assume... or is it "Not Sue"?

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I think you are confused Catherine.
Is she confused?  Was Isabelle confused, when she "accidentally" gave the "so called parent" the phone number for Midwest Academy (WWASP) instead of Sunrise.  Very strange she would have that on hand/memorized.  Did you give her that phone number too?
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While Isabelle is an advocate, she also knows that there is a need for safe places for out of control children,
Safe places owned by convicted child abusers... yes.  We know what your definition of "safe" is.  Go write another Whitmore blog.  (If only carpel tunnel could kill *sigh*)
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and has done her best to gather information for those who do pull their children from these abusive programs, but still need a safe place to put them.
Home?  Heavens no.  Too much trouble.  After all that abuse, little bastards are gonna need more fixing (at a "safe" program, that "isn't" WWASP) What do you care, as long as you get your 10% cut (but you don't tell the parents that, now do you?).
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This from my own experience.  I think you are angry at the wrong person, just my take.  

Guest:

As far as referring transport companies, she got that information from me because a so called parent asked her for a referral to one and she didn't have one, so she called me, and I referred her to Sunrise, whom I have had to use 3 times now for my son.
You used an unlicenced transport service run by a bunch of ex-WWASP goons with your own son?  "Why, i would use it with my own kid"  Isn't that what the Sunrise owner, Julie, said about CCM?  Nice people you associate with, considering your "hatred" for WWASP.  Crook!  Con!  FRAUD!  LIAR! (and I can prove that.  please sue me)
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She has no affiliation what-so-ever.
Are we supposed to take that on your word?  Howabout we talk about YOUR affiliations. :D
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Seems to me your energy could be used in a more positive way.

Dammit.  Must be that "negativity" again... Fudge!  Ok.  Have a happy day sue.  Happy happy  JOY JOY happy happy...

Here... have a fluffy kitty:
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #176 on: June 25, 2007, 07:03:56 PM »
I don't understand.  You should have no problem with naming the facilities your son was in previously, especially the abusive one.  Why would you refuse to name a facility you and your son are happy with?
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #178 on: June 25, 2007, 07:08:30 PM »


Houston, we have a problem.

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« Reply #179 on: June 25, 2007, 07:19:28 PM »
Wow, you're a very angry person, however, rest assured I am not Sue, did you not read the rest of my posts?

Did you now read that I am a parent who is also in the lawsuit against WWASP?

I have no affiliation to anyone other than the Elks lodge.

Cool your jets, and have a nice day too.
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