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« on: May 16, 2007, 11:15:00 AM »
The Super Mega Ideas thread

What this thread is for
  • A place to post or find good ideas that you are someone else can try to implement or ideas you simply don't have time to do yourself.
  • A way to give direction to those that don't know how or where to get involved.
  • Provide an easy way to use and combine the diverse skills of the community to effect change by invoking a spirit of cooperation and collaboration.

This thread will mostly be used to state the [idea] and discussions about a particular [idea] can be done in a new thread about that particular [idea].

Alright I'll start things off....

The Survivors Guide to Web 2.0[/u]

Synopsis:[/u] Alright you've finally got to the point where you want to speak about your experience or get involved by sharing with the world what you have discovered about this appalling industry. You want to blog, you want to record and post videos on youtube, and do podcast dealing with this issue. Problem is you have absolutely no idea how to do any of that stuff.

Well the Survivors Guide to Web 2.0 will be that paddle you need when up shits creek. The Goal is to develop a comprehensive, yet concise and easy to understand pdf guide to exploiting all things Web 2.0.

What the hell is Web 2.0:  Web 2.0 in a nutshell is a description used to describe the thriving social networking and community based web that exist today. Blogs, Podcast, Youtube are all examples of Web 2.0. Web 2.0 provides a public platform that anyone can use to speak their mind on any issue in many different ways.

Why is this important to survivors: Web 2.0 has been shown to be a force to be reckoned with in a variety of settings, most notably "politics". For the survivor Web 2.0 is the easiest and cheapest way to have a public platform that's equal to the "other guy" and above the influence of the "tough love" industry.

The guide can be broken down into 4 subsections: Sound, Video, Text, and Law
  • Sound - This section will deal with obtaining  and using recording tools, like Audacity and tape recorders, and how to publish these recordings as podcast or any other  simple syndication format.
  • Video - This section will deal with the use of basic video recording and editing. A dedicated section on using websites like Youtube for publication is a must have for this section.  
  • Text - Blogs, Blogs, and more Blogs. A guide that touches on the basics of setting up a simple, attractive, and easily maintainable blog will be invaluable to the non-techie survivors. Less is more so advice on html should be only enough to cover the basics.  
  • Law - A small section dealing with the law should be included. Think laws pertaining to recording conversations or meetings and the use of news stories or written copyrighted material


Distribution: The guide can be distributed by survivor sites such as fornits, ISAC, Heal-online, or any other survivor sites that wouldn't mind hosting the .pdf file.

Well that's the idea.

If you have the ability to work on any part of this please do and don't forget to network with others interested in working on this. Hopefully this thread will lead to some coordinated ass kicking, if not? At least we tried....
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2007, 11:42:34 AM »
How about providing a fucking LINK to this .pdf file??

PS-  The CAPTCHA is MUCH worse now...please change it back!!
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2007, 12:24:32 PM »
This is an idea, i.e. there is no pdf someone has to make it...  If you have any ideas to propose please do so, thats the point of this thread.
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2007, 08:11:12 PM »
I think survivors should get payed money from a pool of money donated from parents who sent their kids to a facility.

Each facility should have a fund. Parents who send their kid there should be asked to donate to the fund.


I think this is a good way to get survivors to come together. You should pay them money, and not just small amounts like twenty dollars. They need more like a thousand dollars each at least for restitution. It would be better if it were more like five to ten thousand.

This would give parents a good way to give back to their community in a positive way.

They say money can't solve your problems, but it helps put old memories under the bridge.

If those parents will not start a fund we should start a non profit or endowment  that pays out money to program survivors. They need money like everyone else and sympathy doesn't pay the bills.
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Re: The Super Mega Ideas thread!!
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2007, 08:14:21 PM »
Quote from: ""hanzomon4""
The Super Mega Ideas thread

What this thread is for
  • A place to post or find good ideas that you are someone else can try to implement or ideas you simply don't have time to do yourself.
  • A way to give direction to those that don't know how or where to get involved.
  • Provide an easy way to use and combine the diverse skills of the community to effect change by invoking a spirit of cooperation and collaboration.

This thread will mostly be used to state the [idea] and discussions about a particular [idea] can be done in a new thread about that particular [idea].

Alright I'll start things off....

The Survivors Guide to Web 2.0[/u]

Synopsis:[/u] Alright you've finally got to the point where you want to speak about your experience or get involved by sharing with the world what you have discovered about this appalling industry. You want to blog, you want to record and post videos on youtube, and do podcast dealing with this issue. Problem is you have absolutely no idea how to do any of that stuff.

Well the Survivors Guide to Web 2.0 will be that paddle you need when up shits creek. The Goal is to develop a comprehensive, yet concise and easy to understand pdf guide to exploiting all things Web 2.0.

What the hell is Web 2.0:  Web 2.0 in a nutshell is a description used to describe the thriving social networking and community based web that exist today. Blogs, Podcast, Youtube are all examples of Web 2.0. Web 2.0 provides a public platform that anyone can use to speak their mind on any issue in many different ways.

Why is this important to survivors: Web 2.0 has been shown to be a force to be reckoned with in a variety of settings, most notably "politics". For the survivor Web 2.0 is the easiest and cheapest way to have a public platform that's equal to the "other guy" and above the influence of the "tough love" industry.

The guide can be broken down into 4 subsections: Sound, Video, Text, and Law
  • Sound - This section will deal with obtaining  and using recording tools, like Audacity and tape recorders, and how to publish these recordings as podcast or any other  simple syndication format.
  • Video - This section will deal with the use of basic video recording and editing. A dedicated section on using websites like Youtube for publication is a must have for this section.  
  • Text - Blogs, Blogs, and more Blogs. A guide that touches on the basics of setting up a simple, attractive, and easily maintainable blog will be invaluable to the non-techie survivors. Less is more so advice on html should be only enough to cover the basics.  
  • Law - A small section dealing with the law should be included. Think laws pertaining to recording conversations or meetings and the use of news stories or written copyrighted material

Distribution: The guide can be distributed by survivor sites such as fornits, ISAC, Heal-online, or any other survivor sites that wouldn't mind hosting the .pdf file.

Well that's the idea.

If you have the ability to work on any part of this please do and don't forget to network with others interested in working on this. Hopefully this thread will lead to some coordinated ass kicking, if not? At least we tried....


These are all good ideas.
If we can pay the survivors for their blogs and videos by donating money it might give the incentive. ($$).

We should put up a thread about how to build a blog, and how to ask for donations. The thread can also give instructions on how to get affordable equipment to do audio and video projects.

A lot of kids, even though they might of came from middle class or rich families, do not have much money because they had to leave their family after they came home from the program.

So their family members might all be professionals and in two income levels above them, it's funny how that works, but it's not true for everyone. Some parents even spent their college savings for their survivors on the program their kid is surviving from.

I am just someone learning about all of this and I am just blown away the more I read.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2007, 12:54:10 AM »
A music protest centered around good, scary, "hard" music.

Then again "Year Zero" by NIN seems to already be a shot at the bow at our society itself... though not specifically programs.

Any kind of protest that would attract media attention without lengthy jail times!
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2007, 12:44:21 PM »
A Guest's actions has given us a new idea that anyone can do...

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I sat all day at a location that has high visibility to parent-aged looking people.

I held a sign that read
"Kids are being tortured right now - find out why at fornits.com"

If you notice an increase in your net traffic, now you know why.

I think if we all wore t-shirts, had bumper stickers on our cars and spent our free days holding signs we could really do something great.

In two weeks I am embarking on my cross country program sit-in. I am considering doing a hunger strike in front of a program, if I get it cleared with my doctor. Who wants to join me?


Don't be timid if you care enough to get involved try doing what this Guest did. It's simple, cheap, and more importantly effective. So give it a whirl  folks and start a thread about your experience. It doesn't take much to get involved and make a difference, just guts and ingenuity
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2007, 07:20:21 PM »
A simple Idea from this thread.

If you have free time find out what the laws are regarding complaints against teen facilities( RTC, wilderness, whatever) in your state and add it to the thread linked above.
  • What government agency should a survivor complain too?
  • What access do parents have to complaints filed against a particular facility?
  • Are programs required to disclose any complaints filed against it to perspective parents?

It won't take up much of your time and you can do it all from home, just hop on the phone.....
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

Howto]