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More positive press for the criminals in Poland Springs
« on: May 07, 2007, 09:39:15 AM »
POLAND - For years, the state of New York has paid tens of thousands of dollars to send teenagers with behavioral problems to the Elan School, a private boarding school on 33 acres in this rural community.
But after a surprise visit to the school late last year, New York education officials have raised questions about the students' treatment, alleging in a letter to the school and Maine education officials that Elan students are physically restraining their peers and being deprived of sleep, among other allegations.
The school's lawyer says that virtually all of the New York allegations are false. And officials from Maine's Department of Education said after meeting with an Elan official last Monday that they don't believe students are at risk. But the allegations have prompted the state of New York to threaten to withdraw tuition money for taxpayer-funded students unless Elan addresses the concerns.
"In order for the remaining New York students to continue in your program, the Elan School must resolve the health and safety issues within seven business days of receipt of this letter," Daniel H. Johnson, upstate regional coordinator for the New York State Education Department's Office of Vocational and Educational Services for Individuals with Disabilities, wrote in a Jan. 16 letter to the school.
"I think this is a complete sham," Edward MacColl, a lawyer for the school, said in an interview with the Portland Press Herald/Maine Sunday Telegram.
It's not the first time the Elan School has attracted attention. The co-educational school educates teenagers with emotional, behavioral and substance-abuse problems. It was founded in 1971 by the late Scarborough Downs owner Joseph Ricci, whose widow, Sharon Terry, is listed as the school's executive director.
In 1975, Illinois state officials pulled 11 children out of the Elan program, charging that they had been mistreated. Subsequent investigations by several states cleared Elan of wrongdoing.
At the 2002 murder trial of Michael Skakel, a cousin of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. who attended Elan from 1978-1980, witnesses testified that beatings and public humiliation were parts of life at Elan during those years. A report in 2002 by the state of Maine found no indication that any students were at risk.
It's unclear what prompted New York officials to show up unannounced at Elan on Dec. 12. During the visit, the officials interviewed students whose tuition is being paid by local New York school systems. Those interviews led to the allegations made by the state of New York in Johnson's Jan. 16 letter to the school.
The letter described "students being put on 'removal' for days and weeks" and alleged that "students who reach a 'higher level' make decisions as to consequences for other students' behavior management."
The letter included allegations of "students restraining other students," "sleep deprivation for students assigned to guard the students on 'removal'," and "students 'counseling' other students and using coercive and confrontational language, which includes yelling and swearing."
The letter and a follow-up letter sent to Elan on Feb. 14 contained few additional details about the allegations, and New York officials did not respond to an interview request.
CORRECTIVE PLAN DEMANDED
However, the two letters stated that New York will stop paying the tuition of taxpayer-funded students unless the boarding school implements a corrective action plan.
The proposed plan calls for the Elan School to revise its policies and procedures to ban the use of inappropriate language during counseling sessions and to comply with New York regulations regarding the suspension and removal of students for disciplinary reasons, among other changes.
Jonathan Burman of the New York State Education Department's Office of Communications said in an e-mail to the newspaper that eight New York-funded students have met the requirements for high school graduation, and the state is no longer paying their tuition. The state will cut off funding for two other students if Elan does not implement the corrective action plan, he said.
In his written response to New York's letter, Elan lawyer MacColl said he believes the New York State Education Department has "wrongfully defamed" the school and its staff members.
"None of the cited regulations even remotely purports to prohibit the alleged conduct," MacColl wrote. "And virtually none of the allegations is factually accurate."
Still, the allegations prompted officials from the Maine Department of Education to meet with the Elan School last Monday in Augusta. The department has since finished its inquiry, said department spokesman David Connerty-Marin, and the state has no plans to investigate the treatment of students at the Elan School.
The last time Maine conducted such an investigation was 2002, when a witness at Skakel's murder trial testified that the school disciplined students through boxing fights. The state inspected the school in two announced visits and concluded in its final report that the boxing practice was no longer happening and that there was "no indication of any student being at risk."
Connerty-Marin said the recent inquiry into New York's allegations showed that the Elan School complies with Maine regulations. "And we do not believe that students are at risk for safety or for health," he said.
He added that the Maine Department of Education has not received complaints from Elan parents or students, but said the department would investigate if it did receive such complaints.
TWO VISITS, TWO VIEWS
While New York conducted a surprise inspection, it is the policy of Maine's education department to let schools know when state officials are going to conduct a visit, said Edwin "Buzz" Kastuck, whose responsibilities within the department include school approval.
In an interview, MacColl said he believes New York may be trying to save money by ending tuition payments to the Elan School, which costs around $49,000 a year to attend, according to the school's Web site.
The Jan. 16 letter from New York education officials stands in contrast with an earlier New York report, which followed a visit to the Elan School on Aug. 8-9, 2005.
"The program at Elan is highly structured and places an emphasis on positive peer support, which are key to student success," reads the 2005 report, which was provided to the newspaper by the Elan School.
Frank McDermott, the Elan School's director of education, said the New York officials who visited in 2005 conducted extensive interviews with students, parents and graduates. By contrast, the New York officials who conducted the surprise visit in December stayed for only three hours and never talked to the school's administrators, he said.
McDermott said that the school enrolls students between the ages of 13 and 20, a majority of whom have battled drug or alcohol abuse. The school has about 95 students, mostly from outside Maine. Public school systems pay for about 40 percent of the students enrolled at Elan. Parents pay the tuition for the remainder, McDermott said.
The Elan program involves students working for other students, rising through a series of job levels in the house where they reside, McDermott said.
He acknowledged that Elan students may temporarily restrain other students who have become violent, prior to the arrival of staff members.
Staff members may put plastic zip ties around a violent student's wrists and ankles, which is allowed under Maine regulations, he said.
McDermott also said that students are sometimes required to work as "Night Owl," a job in which they stay awake to make sure other students don't leave. "They aren't deprived of sleep because the next day they go to bed," he said.
Regarding the allegation that Elan students make decisions about their peers' behavior management, McDermott said, "They may make suggestions, they will tell staff what they think about a situation. But all decisions about whatever happens are done by staff."
When McDermott was asked whether students yell at each other in group counseling, he described what he called "confrontational groups," where students have the opportunity to tell peers how they angered them.
"And part of that may be, I may yell at you," McDermott said. "Once the yelling is over in that situation, if it does occur, there's a process in which they sit down and they discuss that. And the two students would have a discussion, along with other students, about what was happening, and what should happen, and how they should handle those things. So it really is a technique to stop kids from getting into altercations."
McDermott defended the Elan School's methods as helpful for many children.
"These kids literally have changed their lives," he said. "When they arrive, they don't know how to turn a mistake around."
Staff researchers Beth Murphy and Susan Butler contributed to this report.
Staff Writer Kevin Wack can be contacted at 791-6365 or at:
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2007, 09:51:07 AM »
Mr McDermott tells a pretty good story.
What would a state school super be doing at a private "school" in Me that has committed so many criminal acts against mcchildren.
Better question... Wonder how Elan lost their perspective "pay-off person in New York.
Frank
Maybe you should get an honest job at Mcdonalds. Sure beats abuseing Mc Children
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2007, 08:04:05 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Mr McDermott tells a pretty good story.
What would a state school super be doing at a private "school" in Me that has committed so many criminal acts against mcchildren.
Better question... Wonder how Elan lost their perspective "pay-off person in New York.
Frank
Maybe you should get an honest job at Mcdonalds. Sure beats abuseing Mc Children


That has to be the dumbest comment to make. What the fuck do you know what goes on there today? Stop pretending like you are all knowledgeable of what goes on at elan. And do everyone else a favor, LEAVE....
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2007, 11:46:39 AM »
let me be sure to understand what you are saying
You have 1st hand knowlege of Elan having undergone a complete change from dishonest and deceptive billing / marketing practices.Abusing children and parents,to being "a happy harmonic place to send your child"?
You will have to sell that line of crap elsewhere. I am not buyin it.
They have probably made changes.Though only the ones that they could be prosecuted for would be my belief. I could be wrong.
But I cant see them changing anything for the benefit of those the serve. Only themselves
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2007, 08:42:37 AM »
All the negative press I read indicates allegations 30 years ago. These websites, negative attitudes and inability to rationalize have certainly played a critical role in the questions that arise about the practices at the school in current day.

After visiting the school several times and speaking with the students, staff and faculty - I see no indication of any abuse. The children at the school all seem happy.

One thing, which I think is very important to remember here, is that this school is preconditioned to receive negative press. Why? The school offers services to help rehabilitate behaviorally challenged children. No program designed for any purpose is full-proof. Ultimately, the child has to make the decision to realign their behavior. In many cases, students at the school are able to readjust their lives; however, those which do, are spending their time working, spreading kindness and have become admirable adult citizens. Unfortunately, there are those who did not learn from their experiences at the school -- and have grown into nothing greater than the behaviorally challenged children they were before entering the school.

I sometimes wonder, as I read these posts, how many of these bulletin-board junkies have a good relationship with other people in their lives. It seems to me, that a life filled with such hatred and disdain would lead to more unhealthy relationships with others. Possibly, this is the way of a wayward child who has somehow slipped through the cracks into adulthood.

Certainly, the school is not for everyone. Perhaps, some of the posters in this forum would have been better off in prison. In fact, you should thank your lucky stars that you did not spend time in prison. I'm quite certain that without the school, this is exactly where you would have been. Some of you are still teetering on the edge, but for your sake (since you think Elan was such a horrible experience), I hope you don't ever ever have to experience the trauma of prison.

So, you feel that you had a negative experience at Elan. Well, tough shit. The school was not designed to bow to the behaviorally challenged child. The school is a school of tough love, discipline and respect. I'm quite certain there would be many stories to tell from the point of view of the instructors at the school about their negative experiences with the children. So, why isn't there a board for instructors to bash the students? For the exact opposite reason that you are here spreading hate. They are professional, certified, trained, experienced and courteous adults.

Their job is to cure children who display the same bitterness and anger that you so brazenly spread across the pages of all these forums. It is unfortunate they didn't help you, but then again, I'm sure they tried much harder than you were ever willing to put forth the effort.

It is a sincere shame to read some of the allegations here. It seems to me that there was one bad seed who made their way through the doors of the school (I'm referencing Skakel), and since, has come a plethora of allegations for attention. It seems to most reading these blogs and message boards, that you are simply crying out for help, because deep inside you feel worthless and ashamed, yet too stuborn to seek the help you really need.

That really is cause for shame.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2007, 09:24:58 AM »
It is a sincere shame to read some of the allegations here. It seems to me that there was one bad seed who made their way through the doors of the school (I'm referencing Skakel), and since, has come a plethora of allegations for attention. It seems to most reading these blogs and message boards, that you are simply crying out for help, because deep inside you feel worthless and ashamed, yet too stuborn to seek the help you really need.

That really is cause for shame.
Did you not take your meds today ?
I will respond to your accusation about Mike.He didnt do it.
The rest of your post is simply propoganda and inaccurate. I lived it.
So what, if these FACTS,not allegations happened 30 years ago.Yes there is alot of BS here.I wish it were different.But many are the children,now adults who were incarcerated (probably in your charge) in a very abusive lifestyle.
I will not re-post any of my abusive experiences at the hands of ill qualified,wanna be therapists as they have been posted many times before.
You,are a troll. You,have information that is foul,tainted,and you smell like one of the fine abusers in Poland.
Admit to nothing.Keep taking money that doesnt belong to you. I take alot of satisfaction knowing that when you meet god,you will have to explain your torture of teens.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2007, 09:59:09 AM »
They are professional, certified, trained, experienced and courteous adults
that is really funny
Alice
Joe Rodrigas
Joe Ricci
Marty
Jeff
Anne
Tanya
Peter Mcann
just to name a few
I dont think those are the apropriate adjectives to describe these people.
Thanks for the chuckle !
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2007, 10:57:17 AM »
Marty is not certified in anything. Except for buffalo sodomy and hi yuh yuh yuh therapy.

Tania is certified in deranged blood curdling screaming and has a real estate license.  I guess that counts for something.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2007, 02:07:49 PM »
That was OMG funny !
How many days in advance did you anounce your visit?
Plz dont answer BAhhhhhhhhhhh Probably Pro-Bush too
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I'm sorry you feel that way
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2007, 03:30:56 PM »
I am so sorry that you feel that way.

What I get a great chuckle from: Every time someone posts something which is factual -- it is attacked on a personal level.

As far as being Pro-Bush -- absolutely not. He should be impeached.

As far as being a troll -- I'm not really sure what a troll is... but it sounds cute.

As far as the adjectives I used to describe the instructors at the school -- it was all based on fact.

As far as someone who works at the school -- absolutely not. I live about -- hmmmm -- 20 hours away.

My visit was not announced.

My experiences are real. Whether you want to believe them or not -- is your perogative.

Good luck in your endeavours. I sincerely hope you find peace with yourself.... and hope you learn to debate without using words like troll.

Regards!
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2007, 04:49:47 PM »
Am not angry and find your post offensive also. You stop in Poland to quench your curiosity. You saw what they allowed you to see. They are masters of all "cover-up artists". I should know. I "covered-up" for them myself,and saw it done numerous times. I can believe you would be delighted at all the happiness going on around you. It is false,it is brainwashing,and those who need to "cover up",definately have something to hide.
Looks like they got you too.The same as they had gotten hundreds,maybe thousands of others.
Congratulations.. You have been duped !
 
If someone beats a child.A child who has emotional problems.Say this happened yesterday,2 weeks ago,10 years ago,what difference does it make.These "allegations" as you call them are far more than that. Many of us saw the most inhumane treatment of children ever known.Please dont think you can come here and tell us we are all liars.
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Funny Elan School Link
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2007, 06:03:06 PM »
Check out this funny Elan School Link I found today.
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2007, 06:50:10 PM »
Theres really nothing funny about that site. I dont get it why in the world noone cares about the truth about what happened up there.
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Sorry... posted the incorrect URL
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2007, 06:12:57 AM »
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Plz keep this at the top..
Even the asswipes agree that those from Elan are criminals.
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