thank you guest
I missed the part where she said *please stop I dont want to talk about it anymore* and the "confrontations" continued.... gratuitous cruelty is fun especially when the target says please stop :exclaim:
I also loved the "this is our foum" aspect. It wasnt just sadistic, it was EMBARASSING!!! 
ops: It was like they were in a treehouse throwing stones at some girl who wondered by. To them it was probably funny...but if they had COMPASSION they would see that by throwing stones at what she felt the most PAIN and VULNERABLITY about, was not funny for HER
And lets not forget the STUPIDITY in arguing with a PARODY of her for like 7 PAGES. Not just mean but STUPID. Arguing with a PARODY! ops: :question: :exclaim:
My favorite of the bunch was ZENAGENT telling her what a narcisist and self centered crazy nut she was. i think he was the one imitating her. He has a DAUGHTER in PV.
Personally i think his daughter is CRAZY, SELF CENTERED DERANGED, LUNATIC, STUPID BITCH, who wont make it through college that whining moronic cow.
Not just that I dont think he really cares about her. Its a "get back at the ex" issue...maybe he wants some extra loot?
Hey Zen why dont you send her over here so I can tell her that personally?
Also..tell her to reveal what she is in the most pain about so I and my internet freinds can mock her suffering her for 3 days. You dont want to do that? No?
Maybe have a little bit of compassion for someone who doesnt have a father or mother to turn to. Even if you are not directly related to her. And even if she doesnt immediately seem useful for your lawsuit YOU are the narcisist...
And now she cant work through her issues here and she is even more isolated and alone. Hope you are happy!
We've already established the presence of PV staff, huh? We're not sending her "over here" (PV, I guess) so you can start on her anew. We got her OUT of PV, don't you know...I've apologized by email, and if you'll read back in the PV thread, WANF defended me when a PV staffer took some shots. Doesn't sound like we're going at it "tooth and nail", huh? Don't talk out of your ass, it stinks.....Now we're helping our girl get ready for her prom, which if PV had their way, she never would have attended. She's going to look like a princess. Her friends certainly don't think she's all the vile things you called her. They were signing petitions to help get her home. Your "internet friends" probably wouldn't do the same for you
What makes u think I'm P.V. staff? Im a survivor of a program every bit as bad as your step's . Do You think the things I said about your step qualify as abuse? Hmm,.. very interesting as you said the same things about WANF. I am glad you apologized to her for being an abuser.
WANF's freinds probably dont agree with your vile insults either, though unfortunetly, unlike your step, her parents would... Its too bad the fact that WANF's parents are abusive did not make you more empathic to her, and not abuse her instead.
Perhaps my parelel wroked and now you see that people who arent related to you have a "being" as well, and are therefore entitled to compasion and decency, just like your relations are?
I'm gald you were able to make this obvious mental connectiion that usually doesnt have to be activated through direct paralells as it comes quite naturally through empathy. Your step suffered the exact same things as WANF . WANF wanted to help you. When she did not conform to your wishes immediately you became abusive. That is why your reaction repulsed me the most :flame:
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You edited my post in your quote. Why? Let's look at the missing bits:
WANF and I are on good terms. I can P.M. her on CAFETY and speak confidentially. We're going to clear up some of this and re-group, so what's your point? Have you noticed my lack of a presence on that thread? We've talked by email, I know her, I had to be sure she was the same person, and it was hard to ask her questions with so many attacks. I started, she read back, and we established the connection.[/b]
Why did you skip all of that? I'm not the one hurling "C" words at her. We have common ground, and I've offered her help on a legal level. I never apologized for being an "abuser", I wasn't. You're very selective, and PV staff like to falsify and "omit". I posted on pg.33 of the PV thread:
It's okay, Free. Let's get back to square one: We're all on the same side. No need to bash away at each other, we've been bashed enough. We're survivors, parents and former patients alike. Let's work together.
I haven't posted on that thread since pg.35. It's 50 pages deep now, and it's gotten really vile. Why don't you attack the other posters who have been much more vindictive and nasty? Because you don't have any interest in them....just me, and the PV lawsuit.
I'll admit to calling her self-centered, and I did say "Free, you are
what the goons would label Narcissistic" I wasn't making the diagnosis, that's just one of the catch-alls PV uses, like ODD. That's why I said
"what the goons would label Narcissistic".
You'll have to show me where I called WANF a
CRAZY, DERANGED, LUNATIC, STUPID BITCH, who wont make it through college that whining moronic cow.
So, find it...
Not just that I dont think he really cares about her. Its a "get back at the ex" issue...maybe he wants some extra loot?
What anon would know personal, case details like that? Regular Fornits members do, but you aren't one. As I said, her bio-dad is out of this. He's free to do his thing. My step daughter isn't on Fornits posting and opening herself up to criticism, therefore you're out of line attacking her. Haven't you read the cautionary description of "Troubled Teen Industry"?
This is an uncensored, unmoderated forum where all viewpoints are both welcome and fair game for debate. It's a snap-shot of the Teen Help industry, and there's nothing inspiring or heart-warming about it. It's pretty damned ugly. Enter at your own risk.
Hey Zen why dont you send her over here so I can tell her that personally?
That's vaguely threatening. You seem to have some knowledge of where we live, and consider it a short trip over to...PV?
WANF's freinds probably dont agree with your vile insults either, though unfortunetly, unlike your step, her parents would... Its too bad the fact that WANF's parents are abusive did not make you more empathic to her, and not abuse her instead.
My step daughter was abused by her bio-father for years, so I'm empathetic to kids who have abusive parents. If I weren't outraged, I would sue PV for my step daughter and end it there. I want to help end this abusive industry, starting with PV and helping as many kids as I can who went through hell there .
Perhaps my parelel wroked and now you see that people who arent related to you have a "being" as well, and are therefore entitled to compasion and decency, just like your relations are?
I've written emails back and forth with WANF for a while. I was afraid someone was copying her story and using it for their own PV- protecting agenda. WANF wasn't answering my emails, so I got the PV paranoia. She and I both have it, we survived PV. Then we established each other's identity.
I'm gald you were able to make this obvious mental connectiion that usually doesnt have to be activated through direct paralells as it comes quite naturally through empathy.
WANF knows I'm very empathetic to her situation. We correspond, but you wouldn't know about that.
Your step suffered the exact same things as WANF . WANF wanted to help you. When she did not conform to your wishes immediately you became abusive. That is why your reaction repulsed me the most :flame:
My step went through a lot of the same abuse as WANF, but post PV kids deal with PTSD in different ways. Some bury it, some feel victimized by it, some find it empowering that PV couldn't break them down and take away their individuality. My "step", as you call her, refuses contact with her abusive biological father, she has that option. What's truly sad about WANF is she has no way to separate herself.
What help did she offer to me directly? She didn't know who I was. I was afraid someone from PV had copied her story from another board and was using it to discredit her. I asked her to register so we could PM. Her refusal made me leery. I may have been angry with her, but you had better read the posts since I quit responding on that thread. Psy and Niles are very "empathetic", compassionate guys and they tried long and hard to relate to her. She attacked them, especially Niles. I never called WANF a cunt, I left the thread when I was sure of who she was and went to try to re-establish contact with her and cool her off. She's not familiar to boards.
Once again, as proof we had recognized each other and knew we were on the same team:
I've apologized by email, and if you'll read back in the PV thread, WANF defended me when a PV staffer took some shots.You have an agenda, and it's a PV agenda. You wish to discredit me, but the person you describe as the "victim" of my heartless abuse certainly doesn't hold the ill will against me, but you do...you village idiot. You're far too obvious.
