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« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2007, 08:21:42 PM »
//Well the thing is, If there is a God (and I believe there is) then He is God. He does not answer to you, because He is God. What He says is right, is right, because He is God. What He says is evil is evil - again, because He is God. //

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But this is the other problem with the idea of a heavenly deity setting out the rules. The only way humans can know such rules is through the bible. In the event that you literally take the bible ( and i am aware that not all religious believers do) as a sort of rule book for running your life then you are not necessarily living in the most rational way. Afterall there are many bits that contridict themselves wildly and like any literary document it is open to human interpretation. The rules are also if literally followed unreasonably long and sometimes make no logical sense. Only a somewhat fanatical person would even be aware of them all. I dont understand why anyone would be keen to use such a guide for living.
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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2007, 09:01:53 PM »
Quote from: ""Antigen's Ghost""
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Ah well, maybe you'll fall and break your leg on the way to the hardware store.store.

How very unchristian of you


Well - maybe I stumbled ;) but I meant it kindly - to save them from committing an act that would destroy (at least) one life, most probably seriously damage (at least) another.

Oz girl - the rules are really sorta simple. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your mind, and all your soul; and do unto others, as you would have others do unto you.

Do these things, and all the rest falls naturally into place.

I believe you are probably thinking of "the Law" as laid out in Leviticus. If one believes that Jesus is the Messiah, and accepts what He said, the law was given largely to help men understand there was no way they could ever be good by following "rules". All men will fail. Thus the need for a Savior.

As for sin, IMO, what God tells us is sin, is sin because it is dangerous to our health and wellbeing; and or hurtful towards others. Tho we are bound to fail on occasion, it is to our advantage to avoid sin as much as possible.
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« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2007, 09:05:52 PM »
Buzz, do you consider it a sin to be a homosexual? Do most Christians?
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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2007, 11:02:14 PM »
And furthermore, do you consider it a sin to be a goat??  :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1dxtto2-WY
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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2007, 11:07:23 PM »
and God.  ANd the Bible.  ANd stuff.
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« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2007, 11:54:24 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
And Antigen, you say his broken leg comment was UnChristian? Actually, I think it is quite representative of Christians.


I know. Just ribbin Karen a little.
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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2007, 02:22:39 AM »
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Oz girl - the rules are really sorta simple. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your mind, and all your soul; and do unto others, as you would have others do unto you.
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While the do unto others part is common to most religions, how is it possible to love a faceless nameless sort of idea more than anything practical and earthly? You can love a person because you are involved in their life and they touch you in a human way. But a god is just a random idea that you cant see or touch. i can actually identify with the kid who asks for a pony. Afterall at least parents can provide their child with some real evidence that Santa has been (he drinks the beer or eats the cookies at least)
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« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2007, 06:03:37 AM »
I do know one thing.. if there is a god, it sure as fuck isn't his/her job to keep you clean and sober. Nor is it his/her job to remove your "character defects".


God doesn't do people's laundry.
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« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2007, 11:00:35 AM »
I think the idea is to stop humanizing "god"...stop viewing him retrospectively from a human point of view.

Does god give a fuck? I dont know...does he take a piss?  Probably not, but that doesnt mean that "god" doesnt exist.  People manifest the greatest arrogance in humanizing "god".  As if something so omnipotent would think like we do, and therefore pass judgement like we do.

My view of the world is wholly different from anyone elses...how does one characterize "god" with such a limited perspective?

I think the truth of "god" is more akin to the idea of enlightenment on a personal level.  When a person is open enough to see the truth of their existence...thats real faith, real acceptance.  I think that religion is just a mask for fear of the unknown.  The bible is supposed to be "gods" word...but is it? Is it really?  I dont hink so, I think its mans word used as a tool to show the idea of mans view of god from a human point of view, not a divine one.  I choose to trust my own heart and my own faith before I turn to a poorly translated documentation of salvation.
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« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2007, 11:22:58 AM »
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Afterall at least parents can provide their child with some real evidence that Santa has been (he drinks the beer or eats the cookies at least)


You guys leave beer for Santa? We've just been leaving him milk. I suppose, being in the G -5 timezone, we should really be leaving him coffee or a nice line of coke or something.
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« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2007, 11:31:39 AM »
But of course. in some houses scotch. There is no traffic in the sky thus no drunk driving laws. There is also a carrot for rudolph and some cookies for mrs claus
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« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2007, 12:18:24 PM »
I left santa a penthouse magazine one year.
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« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2007, 01:13:12 PM »
How'd that work out for ya?
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Re: Does "God" really give a fuck?
« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2012, 09:33:54 PM »
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Most people seem to believe that there is some sort of divine retribution (through hell, or through 'karma' for you new-agey types) for horrible acts like murder or what have you... I've been thinking to myself what a load of crap this is. If I decide to go out and kill someone because they piss me off or something, the only real thing I have to fear is getting caught for it....

Does anyone disagree?

This is not to say that I don't believe in God (because I do), but I don't entertain the notion that God (the life force or whatever) really cares that much if I go out and kill someone. In fact I think he (sorry for the gender bias) might get a kick out of it. I know I would.

Thoughts?


Hello, sometimes I think about the same thing. Sometimes I hate people and want them dead. Being angry hurts. I don't think it's wrong. But then I read something about people being nice and helping and giving things to kids. There's a lot of meanness and a lot of unpunished crimes, but it's a nicer feeling inside to put attention on say kids who need help, it's putting your mental energy on something better. It's hard to have a satisfactory conversation about "God" and "Karma" with anyone these days. I don't think it works how most people think it does. Of course if you walk around thinking bad things and plotting to kill people and stuff you are not going to attract the nicest situations to yourself, and that's not an esoteric idea, it's just the look on your face or whatever. That's just a simple idea about something some people call "karma". I think some of the ideas about "karma" are just as illogical as the way people think of "God" and "judgement". I mean, say someone does something bad to you and then someone says "well that must be your karma". But now the person that did something bad to you has some "bad karma" and supposedly they are going to get kicked in the ass at some point for the bad thing they did and deserve whatever bad thing that happens to them as "their karma coming back on them". Ugh I hate that line of reasoning. Plus the people who get victimized are often children, women, people without money and resources, handicapped. It becomes absurd the way people talk about cause and effect. It's not their place to suffer "karma", it's the world's place to fix some things. I don't have a lot of patience with "God" because there are too many children in ungodly awful situations in the world. I don't think that is their "karma" they got "reincarnated" to suffer. Probably most often I can appreciate what I have heard in church and from philosophical religious writings that humans are "co-creators" with "God". That is the truest thing I can see on this planet. People create a lot of bad stuff. It sounds like a sort of obnoxious hippy-ish idea that people should "raise their consciousness", but if people cause or turn away from suffering they let it happen, and they let the world be more like that whereas if by example they care about a thing and save kids from abusive programs they strengthen those kids who can grow up and do more good things with their lives and spread good things and good feelings around. Like pick up your litter and the place looks nicer. So anyways it is about your heart and your mind if you want to be thinking about killing people then worrying if "God" would care or if you want to spend your time and talents on something that puts a better feeling in you and in the people around you. But if you decide you are okay with killing people let me know and I can send you a list to get started on. Ha ha. Thanks. j/k. I don't think it is wrong to be angry or think about things like that, I think a lot of people suffer and feel anger and think about killing people because of their hearts. Like if people are abusing children you might want to kill them but that is because you are the kind of person who can empathize with the children that are getting hurt and you just want it to stop right away. As for "God" noticing or giving a fuck what you do, well I think he is a damn lazy bastard who is sitting on his ass eating bon bons while people suffer, including little children in the worst most horrible ways, so if you get to the pearly gates and "God" says "oh what about this thing you did" you can say "Uhm, excuse me, you were on vacation, apparently, for several thousand years, and we worked it out the best we could. I thought about it and asked for advice on the internet and I didn't hear back from you, so, what, you were lazing on the beach and didn't bother to answer my question?" Then "God" would probably just rush you through the gate so as not to cause a scene and further embarass him.

But in all seriousness, I think _Of Human Bondage_ is a pretty good run-down on life and meaning and stuff. Also _The English Patient_. War is hard on people, on any scale.
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