speaking of charges

[Deborah]

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Yes, they used food as punishment. While on restrictions you had a limited number of minutes to eat. If you didn't throw your food away when trash came by you were further punished. If you talked during the meal, which was taken outside away from the group, your meal would be taken away.

[RobertBruce]

Cindy why are you asking about it? You told me that you were well aware that your daughter was placed on the restriction diet while at SUWS, and that you were okay with it.

[TheWho]

Yes, they used food as punishment. While on restrictions you had a limited number of minutes to eat. If you didn't throw your food away when trash came by you were further punished. If you talked during the meal, which was taken outside away from the group, your meal would be taken away.

Seems like maybe a brutal counselor?  it appears they aborted this practice years ago but still I dont understand why they would do this or what they expected to gain.  Pissing the kid off more or having them malnourished isnt going to help things from an educational perspective or emotional one.

The head of the Nutrition Dept at my local community college warned that this diet, at less than half the USDA requirement for an active teen, was inadequate. While on restriction the teen is required to do extra physical training and subject to work details.

Actually that was my second question.  A restrictive diet isnt necessarily a bad thing if they stay within the guide lines or under the direction of a nutritionist, but kids need a minimum number of calories to stay healthy and grow.  As a minimum, restriction or no restriction this should be adhered to.

[Anonymous]

No, it wasn't a brutal counselor - this was protocol for any kid going on Restrictions. (But maybe Len can speak about this better since they were his rules.)

No to your other question/statement. The Restriction diet was not done away with years ago. It may have ceased this past fall as a result of ORS's investigation into HLA/RCI, but ONLY because of that investigation.

[Anonymous]

As to the "why" would they do this? Simple: break the kid down. Deprive them of food and sleep to force them to modify their behavior.

[Anonymous]

No, it wasn't a brutal counselor - this was protocol for any kid going on Restrictions. (But maybe Len can speak about this better since they were his rules.)

No to your other question/statement. The Restriction diet was not done away with years ago. It may have ceased this past fall as a result of ORS's investigation into HLA/RCI, but ONLY because of that investigation.

Not true.  The restriction diet was done away with at least a couple of years ago.  But you are right in the sense that it was not done away with voluntarily.  There were complaints to child services or some organization like that.  Len was told he had to do away with it.  It has been at least a couple of years, however, since it was done away with.

[hanzomon4]

No, it wasn't a brutal counselor - this was protocol for any kid going on Restrictions. (But maybe Len can speak about this better since they were his rules.)

No to your other question/statement. The Restriction diet was not done away with years ago. It may have ceased this past fall as a result of ORS's investigation into HLA/RCI, but ONLY because of that investigation.

Not true.  The restriction diet was done away with at least a couple of years ago.  But you are right in the sense that it was not done away with voluntarily.  There were complaints to child services or some organization like that.  Len was told he had to do away with it.  It has been at least a couple of years, however, since it was done away with.

Where did you get that information from?

[RobertBruce]

Seems like maybe a brutal counselor?

No Cindy, it was school policy. Just another shining example of abuse in these places that is systemic and involving the entire school. It's too bad youre too stupid to recognize this.

Whether it was done away with a few years ago or not makes no difference to all the kids who were abused under its policies before hand. Quite a few since the change is fairly recent.

[Deborah]

No, it wasn't a brutal counselor - this was protocol for any kid going on Restrictions. (But maybe Len can speak about this better since they were his rules.)

No to your other question/statement. The Restriction diet was not done away with years ago. It may have ceased this past fall as a result of ORS's investigation into HLA/RCI, but ONLY because of that investigation.

Not true.  The restriction diet was done away with at least a couple of years ago.  But you are right in the sense that it was not done away with voluntarily.  There were complaints to child services or some organization like that.  Len was told he had to do away with it.  It has been at least a couple of years, however, since it was done away with.

If it happened two years ago, it would have to be CPS because ORS didn't have jurisdiction over HLA then, only RC.
Were you there for the change? Did you see it with your own eyes? Was change made in practice or only policy?
RB, know any folks on MySpace who recently left who might speak to this?
So, what punishment replaced the starvation diet, if indeed they did away with it?
Brutal counselor? LOL. If you ever have the privlege of meeting an HLA survivor, just say, "Cheese sandwich". See what kind of reaction you get. Might want to have a barf bag handy.

[Anonymous]

I saw it.  For the past couple of years, at least, restrictions have been eating the same meal as the rest of the students, minus dessert.  They have also been eating in the dining hall, not below the counselor building where they used to eat.

[Deborah]

I saw it.  For the past couple of years, at least, restrictions have been eating the same meal as the rest of the students, minus dessert.  They have also been eating in the dining hall, not below the counselor building where they used to eat.

Never mind, I found the answer. They shuffled it off to RC.
T  0204  290-2-7-.07(7)(a)-(d)  Daily CareSS=F(7)  
Campers shall be provided food of adequate quality and in sufficient quantity to supply the nutrients needed for growth and development.
 
(a) "Food for Fitness - A daily Food Guide," developed by the United States Department of Agriculture, shall be used as a basis for meeting these requirements.
 
(b)  Campers shall have a minimum of three meals available daily and snacks.
 
(c)  Menus, as served, shall be retained on file for one month after use.
 
(d)  No more than 14 hours shall pass between the last meal or snack of one day and the serving of the first meal of the following day.

This Requirement is not met as evidenced by: Based on campers and staff interviews, the camp failed to provide campers with adequate quality of nutrients while participating in the intervention program.  The findings include:  
 
1. During interview with 20 campers on August 16, 2006, 4 campers (#1,2,3,4) of  20 revealed Ridgecreek conducts Intervention which last around 3-4 days.  In addition, campers #1 and #5 stated the camp will take away parts of the MRE (meals ready to eat) as punishment.  
 
2. During an interview with the Director on August 16, 2006, the Director revealed Ridgecreek did conduct an Intervention Program for Hidden Lake Academy (HLA).  However, the Director further indicated that this program is no longer active and it was discontinued in May of 2006.  In addition, the Director revealed that there are no policies in place for the Intervention Program.  
 
3. During an interview with the Director, it was further revealed that the campers who were admitted to the intervention program came from HLA and did not go through the usual admission process.  In addition, when the surveyor requested to review the records of the campers that  
participated in the Intervention Program, the Director stated that no records were kept on these campers.
 
4. During an interview with the Director on August 29, 2006 via telephone, the Director revealed the camp does not use food as punishment, but sometimes the campers may not like the MRE's and choose not eat the whole meal.  ::roflmao::  In addition, The Director revealed the camp even supplies vegetarian meals when requested.  
 
The surveyor was unable to conduct a record review, due to records not being kept on campers that went through the intervention ..

[Anonymous]

That's absolutely correct - it got pushed off to RC for them to enforce the Restriction diet on HLA students who were put on Restrictions or sent off to RC because they were "stuck therapeuctically".  (Translation - unqualified Peer Group counselor couldn't get a kid to make therapeutic advances so let's punish the kid even more.)

Trying to say is HLA had nothing to do with the Restriction diet for the past couple years is absolute bullshit.

YOU as a counselor/employee knew what was going on and YOU made the choice to turn a blind eye. Don't you ever feel remorse for what you put these kids and parents through? How do you live with yourselves knowing that every single thing you told and promised to do for these kids and their parents was just one big lie? Do you realize how many lives have been ruined??? And please, stop with the excuse of blaming everything on Len. You had a choice and your choice was to stay there and be a part of the fraud and lies.

[Anonymous]

Your assumption that all employees turned a blind eye is a faulty one.  You have no knowledge of the attempts to get things changeds or the reports made by the employees to outside organizations in an attempt to get things changed.  There was much that went on by the employees that you don't know about.

[Deborah]

Your assumption that all employees turned a blind eye is a faulty one.  You have no knowledge of the attempts to get things changeds or the reports made by the employees to outside organizations in an attempt to get things changed.  There was much that went on by the employees that you don't know about.

You're completely anonymous here, and apparently are no longer employed there. What reports were made to which outside organizations?

[Anonymous]

If that's true, then give us a list of the agencies/organizations that were contacted. We can compare lists of the agencies/organizations that parents and students have contacted over the years.