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Offline Anonymous

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speaking of charges
« on: March 27, 2007, 02:58:12 PM »
how come they cant file criminal charges agasint HLA?
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2007, 03:30:53 PM »
Charges for abuse could (and probably should) be filed for abuses children were put through when they were put on Restrictions.
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2007, 04:22:56 PM »
It would be difficult to prove, hence why regualtion is such a good thing. With oversight and a means for the kids to report abuse it will be much more difficult for the child abusers to get away with things.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2007, 04:28:58 PM »
Actually it would be easy to prove because all the kids have the same, consistent story about how they were treated and what they were forced to do during Restrictions.

Plus, ORS has a whole list of violations because Ridge Creek helped out with the Restrictions so it's all on record.
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2007, 06:47:52 PM »
Good point. Maybe some convictions will come as a result of this afterall.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2007, 06:55:39 PM »
A whole new Class Action suit could/might be filed on the following abuses:

- Forcing children to perform manual labor (carry rocks, digging. ditches)
- Forcing children to pick up geese feces with their bare hands.
- Sleep deprivation.
- Denying medical care when children were injured and/or harmed.
- Restricting diets and limiting calories (aka "The Restriction Diet").
- Limiting or denying contact with family members.
- Verbal/physical abuses from counselors and staff (think Jim, Sir and Danny P.).
- Forcing children to sleep out in the cold without shelter.
- Improper and possibly illegal distribution of prescribed medications (or, better yet, let's just plain forget to give Johnny his medicine - he won't miss it for 10 days).
- Failing to report crimes to the police (Yes, a girl under the age of 15 having sex is considered Statutory Rape).

The list goes on and on, but the tangible part of this claim is every kid out there could/will testify to these abuses.
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Counselor
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2007, 08:40:30 PM »
A certain counselor (DP) is brought up constantly on this board for being a bad counselor.  He was there for a while.  How is this possible that abusive counselors are not discharged?
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2007, 08:44:08 PM »
Because they simply don't care.
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Re: Counselor
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2007, 09:28:02 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest- HLA""
A certain counselor (DP) is brought up constantly on this board for being a bad counselor.  He was there for a while.  How is this possible that abusive counselors are not discharged?


Oh, they knew. They were just so desperate for staff they didn't care.

The most mind-blowing thing is that he QUIT and they hired him back after knowing all that he did. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THEM????
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Re: Counselor
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2007, 09:38:53 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest- HLA""
A certain counselor (DP) is brought up constantly on this board for being a bad counselor.  He was there for a while.  How is this possible that abusive counselors are not discharged?


I don't really want to get into all of this, but I will say this...several students were interviewed about the rumors surrounding DP.  NONE of them were able to offer first hand knowledge of anything he did.  Nor could they say that they heard it directly from the person he supposedly abused.  EVERYONE interviewed said they had heard rumors, but didn't know anything for sure.  Perhaps he did do something, or perhaps people had "creepy" feelings about him because of the rumors.  I don't really know.  But HLA did investigate this and was not able to get any remotely substantial evidence about this rumor.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2007, 05:44:41 AM »
This is all so sad..and there is more hidden behind the words in this list...the many broken human spirits.

Quote from: ""Guest""
A whole new Class Action suit could/might be filed on the following abuses:

- Forcing children to perform manual labor (carry rocks, digging. ditches)
- Forcing children to pick up geese feces with their bare hands.
- Sleep deprivation.
- Denying medical care when children were injured and/or harmed.
- Restricting diets and limiting calories (aka "The Restriction Diet").
- Limiting or denying contact with family members.
- Verbal/physical abuses from counselors and staff (think Jim, Sir and Danny P.).
- Forcing children to sleep out in the cold without shelter.
- Improper and possibly illegal distribution of prescribed medications (or, better yet, let's just plain forget to give Johnny his medicine - he won't miss it for 10 days).
- Failing to report crimes to the police (Yes, a girl under the age of 15 having sex is considered Statutory Rape).

The list goes on and on, but the tangible part of this claim is every kid out there could/will testify to these abuses.
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Re: Counselor
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2007, 06:24:00 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest- HLA""
A certain counselor (DP) is brought up constantly on this board for being a bad counselor.  He was there for a while.  How is this possible that abusive counselors are not discharged?

I don't really want to get into all of this, but I will say this...several students were interviewed about the rumors surrounding DP.  NONE of them were able to offer first hand knowledge of anything he did.  Nor could they say that they heard it directly from the person he supposedly abused.  EVERYONE interviewed said they had heard rumors, but didn't know anything for sure.  Perhaps he did do something, or perhaps people had "creepy" feelings about him because of the rumors.  I don't really know.  But HLA did investigate this and was not able to get any remotely substantial evidence about this rumor.


Whatever you say Chris....
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2007, 10:24:20 AM »
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Good point. Maybe some convictions will come as a result of this afterall.



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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2007, 10:39:28 AM »
Why not just talk to the girl he supposedly abused? Or better yet why not allow an outside represenative to do the investigating. Maybe someone from oh I don't know....children services? This is exactly why regulation is needed so badly and why I'm so glad it's been forced onto HLA.

I remember "investigations" there. If the investigation was involving something a student did or you were suspected of doing it was all hot lamps and all night interogations. If it was something a staff member had done it was threats or coercion not to tell.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2007, 04:43:56 PM »
Can anyone tell me what this is all about?

Restricting diets and limiting calories (aka "The Restriction Diet").

Was there a limit placed on the number of daily calories for all kids?
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