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« on: March 13, 2007, 11:43:18 AM »
Advice no parent should hear.  I won't mention the poster.  Sure, I'd hire an educational consultant - but they better agree to be held liable if the program is an abusive shithole, and they would never, never do that.  Take responsibility for your referrals, Lon, and people would have one less reason to consider you a scumbag.

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Why aren't you hiring an Educational Consultant today? They are not that expensive.  The owner of this website Lon Woodbury is known to be a very reputable consulting group; you will be guided properly and have a supportive knowledgeable professional helping you make informed decisions



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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2007, 12:31:15 PM »
Do they not realize how they sound? All pretense of original thought tossed out the window like so much feces from a second-story window in the Middle Ages.

Asking an educational consultant for an informed decision is like asking Fred Phelps how to use a condom.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 01:09:41 PM »
There's another thread about mentioning Fornits, Jena's rationale for shunting off threads that mention Fornits is rather nebulous.  Lemme break it down like she couldn't or won't:

1.  StrugglingTeens is a business, first and foremost.  What happens to your kids doesn't mean a thing to Lon and his lackeys, if it did they would take responsibility for the placements they recommend.  Lon promotes some rotten places, and like Pontius Pilate, Lon washes his hands of it all after you choose.

2.  Fornits is bad for business.  Truth scares away customers.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2007, 01:44:18 PM »
Can someone provide a detailed play by play, with quotes for those of us who do not visit ST?
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 01:54:45 PM »
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   Folks, I have 20 minutes to get ready and get to work, so this is not the best job I can do! I will come back and address all this tomorrow after work, but....

Hijacking of threads to talk about Fornits is just not going to be tolerated anymore. If someone posts a topic, then let's stick to the topic. Generally, someone's topic is NOT about anyone else and how they have been treated at Fornits. It's not "all about YOU"!!!!!

I cleaned up one thread, but I gotta' go. I will fix anything else tomorrow.

If you don't like what I did, or want to complain, please post it here, rather than in the middle of someone else's thread.

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    THANK YOU JENA!

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OverLordd
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    I'm sorry quickly tell me which thread it was, because I know it was not the "psy has been baned" thread, and if that is the thread you talking about then I believe it was a foolish decision and illustrates the steriotype that ST is horribly biggoted against any opposite point of view.

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Anne from Minnesota
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A little clarification: are you saying you don't want any mention of Fornits here or in other parts of the forum?

Sorry if this has all been discussed before--I've been listed as a member for a while but only recently have I actually read and visited the site fairly regularly.

More detailed discussion of expectations, when you have time, would be helpful to me in following the site rules.

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As for "site rules", I'd not like to see this become a matter of specific "you can" or "you can't" because inevitably someone would argue over what they mean as well. I've found this site and boards a great resource and help, and the "norms" for posting clear enough already.

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Like you, I have found this site helpful, and like you, I would not want to see terribly rigid communication rules, especially if they lead to argument, as you predict.

However, unlike you (and perhaps this is a function of my shorter active time here), I am not clear on the limits that Jena is talking about.

Hence my request for a clarification, which I would still like--and I think some others would like also. It's been my own experience that clarifying expectation leads to less debate and disagreement than not doing so.

I would like some simple guidelines such as:

1)whether certain other entities, such as the one that is at the base of Jena's thread deletions, should be treated like school names and not talked about by name anywhere on the forum.

2)whether neither names or direct comment on these entities should be used on the site.

3)whether such entities can be referred to, either by name or content in a thread where the topic of the thread makes mention germane (I'm thinking of the Industry part of the forum).

In her post yesterday, Jena indicated that she was short on time and that she would address the situation further on THIS thread later if needed. Hope this explains why my inquiry on the subject appears on this thread. So for myself, a little more quidance would help a lot in adhering to site expectations.
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Fornits is a controversial subject among some posters. I don't have a problem with that, but the problem comes when almost every thread on the forum, turns into an argument about Fornits.

It is ok to talk about Fornits, but not interjected into other threads when that is not the subject of the original poster.

In recent threads, a parent posts about their child, then someone slings an accusation at Fornits, then the whole thread turns into a Fornits argument and the original subject is lost amongst the arguments regarding Fornits.

It's not fair to the original poster.

If you need more clarification, I will be happy to discuss this further.

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 01:56:18 PM »
What wankery.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 01:59:25 PM »
I wonder how many kids Lon has referred to programs? Hundreds?
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