I say Bong's to the dumb-asses! Can is till sign up for non-compliance? ::hehehmm::
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2003, 09:16:00 PM »
I was fortunate enough to have been in the program when someone who was misbehaving was still called by their proper name, (jerk) and were even treated as such. I guess you could compare it to being black and living in Alabama when they still had signs at lunch counters saying "Whites Only." The program was alot more gut level and honest back in the late seventies.
That whole misbehavior thing was the creation of Dr. George Ross, who joined the program in the late fall of 1978. He was trying to bring a civilized tone to us "druggie heathen bastards."
It took quite a bit of effort to be a really good jerk back in them days. The group had 437 kids in it back when I first came in. I know, I counted them all. That is how boring the raps used to be. It took a lot to study the individual
staff members and catalog their weaknesses and then strike when the moment was right. Like the time Marie Ward got up in my face and I sniffed the air and said, "You smell like Stridex, bitch."
She had just gotten over a super bad case of acne and was very self concious about it. Or the time Chris Casselor sprained his ankle and claimed it was from playing football, when it actually was from him trying to climb up the vent pipe and paint over where I had scratched the words "Jerk Power" with a little fist up near the ceiling.
I was so freaking dedicated to my craft that at the risk of a beating by 4th phase goons one Saturday, I called Mrs. Petermann 'Frau Blooker' and whinnied like a horse every time she came in and out of staff offices and the group, until she ordered me into the Think Room, just so I could scratch "Nice Try 4-eyes" into the pipe and give ole Chris something to reflect back on. We had 4th phasers getting high and then coming into group back then and the program had grown too big too fast. I got away with a lot of shit by simply giving a false name because with 3 or 4 intakes a day, staff could'nt keep up. We even had to state our names before relating while on 1st phase just so the group would know who to say they loved when we sat down. It was all so ridiculous that being a Jerk was really the only viable option left open to me. I put alot of effort into it simply because I was raised with a strong sense of pride and work ethics. Thank you for your support.
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I took the time to feel for the door,
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2003, 09:27:00 PM »
I say that NONE of us were dumbasses! We were just kids in a horrible situation that few us knew how to handle.
As a person who misbehaved (and it was because I was a stubborn idiot, lest you continue to glamorize us "misbehaviors" as courageous or intelligent) I find it humorous to read that you guys look back and wish you had misbehaved! In fact, it reminds me of people that were never in the program who say they would have just "run away.":lol: As if.
But if y'all remember, you each chose to go along with the program because that was the most intelligent choice for you at that time! If I had to guess, I would say that all of you were 16 or older when you went in, and therefore were actually the ones who had a more grounded footing. You were probably closer to a young adult, than to a child, whereas I, and typically other "misbehaviors" were more child-like than young adult. So in actuality, although we acted out because we knew the program was wrong, we hadn't been through the kind of life experiences that you older kids had, so - we didn't know how to "go along." I guess it's all in the perspective, but I personally think you all made the wiser choice!
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2003, 10:19:00 PM »
Interesting...no "misbehavers", just 'jerks'. Funny about how you whinnied like a horse and yelled "Blucher" every time that woman came into the room...
I was more of the "go along with the program" type, pretty much. I have recollections of just sitting there not motivating at one point later on in my stay, and letting my beard grow out. I think I was just apathetic at that point. That may have been right before I put in for withdrawal. Now I can honestly say that I'm not sure what phase I was on when I put in for it. I used to think it was 5th, for some reason, but that just doesn't add up now that I think about this little bit of non-compliance just mentioned...maybe it was some kind of refresher or something. Damn, sorry to be rambling, but these uncertainties kinda bother me...but overall, I just went along with shit. I got confronted on 5th for buying punk albums, (the music of my "druggie past") There wasn't enough confrontation exhibited by my peers to make me want to stop listening to them, let alone get rid of them, much to the chagrin of staff member Matt Lyle. Christ, what a piece of work *that* guy was...While not a misbehaver, I guess I could have been labeled an "ass dragger" or "passive aggressive". I was in there for 26 months. My 5th phase was over a year long! I watched people come in after me and 'make' staff. It was like being an old inmate that all the guards knew, and almost respected in some way. I had no clue what the hell I was gonna do when I got out, I just knew that I wanted out...Finally I 7-stepped, fell 'out-of-step', and never looked back. ::bandit::
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2003, 10:28:00 PM »
I always thought misbehaving was mainly for entertainment. It was hilarious even during times I wasn't a misbehavor and just getting to watch the others' antics. Angry misbehavers were no fun though. I did it to get some kicks, but then I started doing it because I liked brutalizing Straightlings. It later evolved into a scheme which got me removed from Straight thanks to a psychiatrist who diagnosed me as psychotic (which was an act on my part). Man, who knows how many years I would have been in there if I hadn't come up with that scheme. Here's a thread where we talked about all kinds of funny details of misbehaving: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=1655&forum=7
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2003, 07:32:00 AM »
I was 20 at the time. I knew better than to misbehave. For someone my age it would've looked foolish I think.
If I had it to do all over I would've left off 4th Phase :wave: rather than fight.
Like Metal, I had a few near death episodes involving glue and knew I needed some kind of help.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2003, 08:52:00 AM »
I'm 30 and I still misbehave. Especially when I go to gun shows and freak out with excitement mixed with rebellion, or when I visit the nursing home to pass out condoms & rolling papers. Fight the power!
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2003, 10:02:00 AM »
I was another of the over 18 crowd. I was also there of my own volition. I had many issues and knew I needed some kind of help and had no idea what straight was about. All I heard on the intake was vacation, days off and such. I was quite shocked when introduced to the group. First time I saw them motivating all I could do was stare. Days off were in and the group was busy, being "strong". Some other front row asshole immeadiately began with the poking me in the back and pushing my arms in the air. Then some 5th phaser was in my face yelling at me and telling that they would leave me alone if I did the same.
This brings me to a point. I have always had issues when the people who came in after the lawsuits talk about y'all should have done this or that. Everybody changed back then. There was no hope of withdrawing. Hell your request didn't even make it to a Trainee most of the time. I saw 5th phasers tear them up in the face of the kid wanting out while laughing and letting them know their lifes had just become a living hell. The only way out back then was to cop-out or 7-step. I was hundreds of miles from home and had no clothes or money or a way home. Knuckling under and 7-stepping seemd the only choice.
It was only after the lawsuits that I noticed people had started to disappear. By them I was such a good straightling I felt sorry for the poor bastards.
CL
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