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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 09:41:55 PM »
Fucking educate yourself before you go around calling us idots. Please? You think everything's so fucking simple. Must be nice living in Mr. Rogers' neighborhood.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2007, 11:59:24 PM »
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Cut to very brief shot of WTC 7 collapsing., approx. 5:20 p.m. on 9/11. South side (left in video still), where most of the fire and structural damage is, gives first. You can see the walls cracking at the top left of the building. Conspiracy buffs hate to show the other side of the building which shows smoke billowing out of nearly every visible floor. There was an enormous amount of fire in that building. Here's a quote from  FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro, who was calling the shots on the scene (quote not in video):
"The biggest decision we had to make was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged [WTC 7] building. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt." [Fire Engineering, 10/2002]

Think there wasn't an inferno in WTC 7? Click here.

Then we quick-cut back and forth between WTC 7 collapsing and some building being demolished. There's no narration, just head-banging music.

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He's referring to a Zogby poll THAT HE COMMISSIONED on the eve of the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York. Not exactly impartial. For example, one of the questions referred to "the inexplicable and largely unreported collapse of the third WTC skyscraper." The poll results showed that the less schooling people had, the more they agreed with the conspiracy theory.


Fish, barrel, etc.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2007, 12:23:44 AM »
Early news footage actually showed the exec on the phone giving the order to "pull bldg 7". It was not then a secret. Now it is. For some damned reasonthe politicos have deemed it prudent and provident to pretend like they didn't do that.

Question is how come? Why would they lie? I can think of a few very sound, time tested Sun Tzu approved reasoms. Here's a clue. Some folk say that the Who is cribbing from the same play sheet. And some will even go so far as to speculate as to when you might finally figure it out.

But what do you think?
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2007, 12:43:00 AM »
Do you think I fucking care what people too weak to say things to my face think? The only real answer I can give to that involves spraying urine into someone's face. I mean I guess if they could go on as "Guest" and whine at me that way... oh, wait.

The poor bastard who used the words "pull building 7" is probably kicking himself up and down to this day for using that phrase. "Why, oh why, did I get stressed out and use intra-department speak on live television in front of all those idiots who thought it meant something nonsensical and totally different? Why couldn't I have just said "evacuate the firefighters" and saved myself from the nutjobs? Why?"

And seeing the conspiracy shit on this of all forums royally pisses me off, because it's an instant shut-off for people with sense. "Hey, these people are getting evidence on these places abusing children.. oh wait, they also think that someone used demolition charges on the WTC. Never mind."
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2007, 03:05:53 AM »
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And seeing the conspiracy shit on this of all forums royally pisses me off, because it's an instant shut-off for people with sense. "Hey, these people are getting evidence on these places abusing children.. oh wait, they also think that someone used demolition charges on the WTC. Never mind."


I tend to concur.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2007, 09:08:01 AM »
Fornits is the perfect place to discuss this. We tend to be critical thinkers and question when things don't make rational sense.

Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penalty""
The poor bastard who used the words "pull building 7" is probably kicking himself up and down to this day for using that phrase. "Why, oh why, did I get stressed out and use intra-department speak on live television in front of all those idiots who thought it meant something nonsensical and totally different? Why couldn't I have just said "evacuate the firefighters" and saved myself from the nutjobs? Why?"


Just curious if you've seen the news footage on what he said? Why would anyone give the order to "pull" it if it was going to "fall" on it's own? Can you find anywhere in history where a building has been totally demolished due to a fire?
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 73b4254ffe

Have all your questions been answered? If so, perhaps you could answer a few that some of us still wonder about. Like, who placed the put options on the airlines involved just days before the event? Last I heard the lucky winner hasn't stepped forward to collect his winnings. You can't make me believe that if the gov't wanted to know, they couldn't find out.

Forget the conspiracy stuff, if you can't wrap your head around that possibility... Aren't you the least curious about the 12 legitimate questions family members and others have been asking since the beginning?

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?sto ... 6093059633

We want truthful answers to questions such as:

1. Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked airliners not followed that day?
2. Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Pentagon not activated during the attack?
3. Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to complete his elementary school visit, apparently unconcerned about his safety or that of the schoolchildren?
4. Why hasn't a single person been fired, penalized, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?
5. Why haven't authorities in the U.S. and abroad published the results of multiple investigations into trading that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the 9/11 attacks, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of traceable gains?
6. Why has Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI translator who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Ashcroft and granted by a Bush-appointed judge?
7. How could Flight 77, which reportedly hit the Pentagon, have flown back towards Washington D.C. for 40 minutes without being detected by the FAA's radar or the even superior radar possessed by the US military?
How 'secure' does that make you feel? Do you believe our security system is that lame?]
8. How were the FBI and CIA able to release the names and photos of the alleged hijackers within hours, as well as to visit houses, restaurants, and flight schools they were known to frequent?
9. What happened to the over 20 documented warnings given our government by 14 foreign intelligence agencies or heads of state?
10. Why did the Bush administration cover up the fact that the head of the Pakistani intelligence agency was in Washington the week of 9/11 and reportedly had $100,000 wired to Mohamed Atta, considered the ringleader of the hijackers?
11. Why did the 911 Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?
12. Why was Philip Zelikow chosen to be the Executive Director of the ostensibly independent 911 Commission although he had co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice?

Those who are demanding deeper inquiry now number in the hundreds of thousands, including a former member of the first Bush administration, a retired Air Force colonel, a European parliamentarian, families of the victims, highly respected authors, investigative journalists, peace and justice leaders, former Pentagon staff, and the National Green Party.

As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:

1. An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
2. Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
3. Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
4. The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry.

http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... ffe#216444

And for the life of me, I can't understand how a plane hit the pentagon and there's no damage where the wings would've hit. Can you explain that? Or what happened to all the black boxes which are virtually indestructible. How did a 'terrorist' passport survive the towering inferno to land on the NY city street, when black boxes were destroyed? Why were all of the Bin Laden flown out of the country when there was a stand down on all flights? Why didn't the CIA arrest Bin Laden when they met with him, after the event, at an American hospital while receiving dialysis?
And those are just the questions off the top of my head.
Aren't you the least bit curious????
Milk, I can't believe you, of all people, wouldn't be asking the same questions.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2007, 09:25:47 AM »
Quote from: ""Deborah""
Fornits is the perfect place to discuss this. We tend to be critical thinkers and question when things don't make rational sense.

Correction: THIS FORUM is the perfect place, etc.
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 09:30:28 AM »
Wow, Deborah.. are you a journalist or something? Where do you find the time to gather the info that you always do? (I ask out of genuine curiosity.) It boggles the mind! I mean, I know where you live in TX may not be the most happening place on the planet, but still.....damn!
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2007, 10:19:01 AM »
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Wow, Deborah.. are you a journalist or something? Where do you find the time to gather the info that you always do? (I ask out of genuine curiosity.) It boggles the mind! I mean, I know where you live in TX may not be the most happening place on the planet, but still.....damn!


When something of this magnitude happens, or anything of interest to me, I research and study the available evidience, just as a journalist would.
I keep informative links in my favorites so they're easily accessible. That's all.
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2007, 10:29:57 AM »
Fair enough..

Too bad you don't get paid for it, eh?  :lol:
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2007, 11:03:37 AM »
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penalty""
And seeing the conspiracy shit on this of all forums royally pisses me off, because it's an instant shut-off for people with sense. "Hey, these people are getting evidence on these places abusing children.. oh wait, they also think that someone used demolition charges on the WTC. Never mind."


Your page long rants about how Angelika is now in a liquid rotting state, or luke and paul characters telling relatively kind parents their child is going to kill them, leads me to doubt your sincerity about your concern over this forums credibility.

The most convinving proof for me that americans and bush and cia were not behind 9/11 is the fact they took years to start a war. If they knew it was coming, they would have attacked iraq, iran, syria and north korea the day after. They didn't use 9/11 for all it was worth, and now a new war is politically difficult. They missed their chance if that was their plan, which leads me to believe they didn't know about it. If they did, they would have taken advantage of it more. That's the most convincing proof their is.
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2007, 11:09:53 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/1 ... ntent.html

Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11?

Yes 89%
9447 votes


No 11%
1201 votes


Total: 10648 votes
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2007, 11:26:13 AM »
The average person doesn't know shit anyway.. so what? A poll.. pffft.
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2007, 11:52:03 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Fair enough..

Too bad you don't get paid for it, eh?  :lol:


That would be nice, particularly industry research, which is time consuming.

Here's a few more links, from sources I consider credible.

Rupert has a nice timeline, which sh0uld inspire more questions.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/w ... _lucy.html

IndyMeida's coverage of the FEMA report on WTC7
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fema_report.html

A very extensive list of questions. Too many to ignore or forget.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911q.html

Scholars for 911 Truth Petition
http://www.st911.org/petition/

Radio Interview with Dr. David Ray Griffin- focus of talk- Why did WTC1,2,7 collapse
Wednesday, February 7th, 2007  
http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?show=13
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