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Offline happyday7

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The Judge will not certify this class action
« on: February 23, 2007, 03:39:01 PM »
It makes me very sad to say that there is no way that this ultra conservative judge will allow certification of this class action in my opinion...even though he needs to do so. :(
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Re: The Judge will not certify this class action
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2007, 03:46:41 PM »
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It makes me very sad to say that there is no way that this ultra conservative judge will allow certification of this class action in my opinion...even though he needs to do so. :(


Well, don't be too glum.  If he were going to reject it out-of-hand he would have done so right away.  Even if he fails to certify, there will be an appeal.  So hang in there and let the process play out.

Remember also that HLA is a hair's breadth away from being shuttered by ORS for operating an illegal childcaring facility, so regardless of the lawsuit, I suspect ORS will be shutting them down anyway.
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I wonder
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2007, 03:51:49 PM »
I wonder how much longer they will be able to operate financially.
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2007, 03:56:27 PM »
My best guess as of last fall was the first quarter this year - by the end of March.

I know enrollment has dropped sharply and they borrowed up to their eyeballs to continue operating as well as selling off properties for cash to operate.

I still say on or about 3-1-2007.

Out of curiosity, has anyone heard an update on the ORS case?  Last I heard they had until Feb. 5 to file their application for a license as a Residential Childcare Facility (or cease and desist operations) which they apperently did.  Any updates on this???
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2007, 04:00:52 PM »
They did file their application by the deadline date. I know that much. I just wonder if they close, if current families can get any of their money back? It seems to just be a waiting game at this point.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2007, 04:02:05 PM »
You have been the most informative person on this board.
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The Judge will not certify this class action
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2007, 05:14:38 PM »
Happyday7, might I ask what your affiliation with HLA is. Former student, former staff, etc. I am just curious.
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2007, 07:18:33 PM »
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They did file their application by the deadline date. I know that much. I just wonder if they close, if current families can get any of their money back? It seems to just be a waiting game at this point.


Yeah, I knew they filed it. Before they did they went scrambling, retroactively checking references and backgrounds on their employees - something that obviously should have been done before they were hired, but I digress...

So, they did try to clean house and get ready for their review.  But, in the bigger picture, these are good things.  They're being forced to conform to the rules of the road and the kids will only benefit from it.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2007, 08:26:17 PM »
loosing a class action certification is a blessing in discuize. heres how.

with a class action it will limit who can sue later on in the future, every one has to join it or they are out of luck. and if the case is lost then all are out of luck..

with no class action there can be multipal lawsuits filed. and if one looses there are still 20 more to go.....
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2007, 09:18:19 PM »
This is one slowass judge. Maybe he's looking to make a point with regards to HLA's artificial "March 1 we close down" deadline?
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2007, 01:33:31 PM »
I am a parent of a child who went to this school and it was not a good experience at all. I love my child very much and it was the worst decision I have ever made. :(
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2007, 01:44:18 PM »
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loosing a class action certification is a blessing in discuize. heres how.

with a class action it will limit who can sue later on in the future, every one has to join it or they are out of luck. and if the case is lost then all are out of luck..

with no class action there can be multipal lawsuits filed. and if one looses there are still 20 more to go.....


Sorry, but you are woefully ignorant of the laws regarding Class Action Lawsuits.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2007, 02:07:04 PM »
I agree. If the class action lawsuit is not certified, it will be very expensive for these families to sue HLA individually.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2007, 02:31:26 PM »
WERE YOU AT THE HEARING?
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2007, 09:54:12 PM »
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Quote from: ""happyday7""
They did file their application by the deadline date. I know that much. I just wonder if they close, if current families can get any of their money back? It seems to just be a waiting game at this point.

Yeah, I knew they filed it. Before they did they went scrambling, retroactively checking references and backgrounds on their employees - something that obviously should have been done before they were hired, but I digress...

So, they did try to clean house and get ready for their review.  But, in the bigger picture, these are good things.  They're being forced to conform to the rules of the road and the kids will only benefit from it.


I haven?t followed much of this thread, read a very few testimonies from kids and have been away for most of the past year but it looks like you did a good thing getting them to file, be happy for that, for the kids.  Getting them sued or closed, in my opinion means crap or worse, the kids will go someplace else or they will reopen someplace else (unlicensed).
If you did it for the right reasons, you should feel good, and good for you and my hat off to you????.
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