I Have A Troubled Son. What should I do?

[Ganja]

This thread is going to hell.

It was meant to by design from post#1.  :wink:

Well stated! *wink*

Maybe we could learn from this next time someone tries to jerk our collective chain, eh?

Probably not though...

Somehow I doubt it...

[Anonymous]

No doubt. But the same scheme also works both ways.

should of known.. this is one of those multi leveled, twelfth dimension trolls...

[Anonymous]

Maybe we could learn from this next time someone tries to jerk our collective chain, eh?

Probably not though...

Somehow I doubt it...

Because the infinite chain of fornits inevitabilities could not exist without that chain.. it wouldn't exist if it weren't meant to be pulled. come on baby k, pull my chain.

[Anonymous]

troll of a troll in the nth dimesion out past pluto.

Where is Mom Trying?

[Ganja]

Because the infinite chain of fornits inevitabilities could not exist without that chain.. it wouldn't exist if it weren't meant to be pulled. come on baby k, pull my chain.

[Anonymous]

Thats a cool chain.

Id pull on that any day.

[Ganja]

Me too, unless it opened a door with something awful behind it.

[Anonymous]

.. even if it did. It would be worth it.

[Anonymous]

bam..shit comes out of the grit trying to reach up and inevitably ends up back in the shit i was trying to escape damn dirt.. that tree looks nice though.. not like the sky.. that shit is heavenly.

[Dad Trying]

Really please take this next line personally.

It is in regards to his loser friends comment.


But honestly go fuck yourself.

You are 100 percent your child's problem. Get your head out of your ass. Stop beating your son into submission, and start cherishing the things he is good at. You after all taught him to act the way he does, now start using positive praise to bring him along in a positive direction.

Only a total asshole has the mox to call kids losers. I'm a total asshole. I enjoy being a total asshole. Yet even I refuse to call kid's losers. Got no problem with calling parents losers.


I sure as hell hope to christ you aren't saying that crap around your son, or anyone else in the world. No one needs to be subjected to that sort of verbal abuse. Not only do you confess to beating him into submission you refer to his friends as losers. What do you think your son thinks he is in your eyes then?

I'm all about helping parents. But you have absolutely no right to be a parent if you continue your prevailing attitude. Find a relative who can do your job for you. Do what is right for your son and let someone else unravel the damage you keep inflicting on your child.

I've had it with YOU. You think "friends" who sell my son pot and cigs at school and encourage him to skip class are "good" friends?

I'm calling "ASSHOLE" on you.

Sorry, everyone else.

I think both of you have valid points.  TSW, is an asshole... but I don't necessarily thinking you should be calling your kid's friends "losers"...  what would some other parents say about your kid?

Besides.  Kids who are called "losers", become "losers".  Why?  If you have a bad rap you might as well make it fit.

What does your son see them as?  If your son sees them as friends...  That's hard to change.  The more control you try to exert over him regarding his friends, the more you will make him want to hang around with them.  He's at a stage in his life when he is trying to assert his independance/identity... and teens don't always do that in the best way.

My advice... and i don't expect you to take it:  Try and guide, rather than control him.

psy,

I agree with that. I don't call them losers around him. When I talk about them to him, I describe them......"I don't like you hanging around people who sell pot, etc." I think he likes the excitement. He had a good friend before who came over to the house, went to movies with him, etc. Now he says that kid is boring. Actually, he had 3 decent friends before. So it's not like he HAD to find friends. I know that teens need friends to hang with at school and elsewhere.

[Dad Trying]

Moronic Daddykins

I've had it with YOU. You think "friends" who sell my son pot and cigs at school and encourage him to skip class are "good" friends?

I'm calling "ASSHOLE" on you.

Sorry, everyone else.

Excuse but now you are blaming his friends for his own behaviors? Behaviors that by all accounts are pretty damn tame? Your son is the one who decides to skip school, your son is the one who buys the pot. Your son is the one who makes the decision to do whatever the hell it is that he wants to do.

You on the other hand have insisted on resorting to violence to subdue a 15 year old boy.

Damn skippy I am an asshole. That is by personal choice. Psy, MGDP, Ganja, and the rest didn't pressure me into being an asshole. I take full responsibility for being an asshole onto myself. I don't shift it off onto others.

Don't coming rolling up onto fornits asking for advice when the real problem isn't your son. The real problem is you. You are what is known as a walking clusterfuck of a parent.

You physically abuse your child and call it self defense.

No telling what the hell else you do to him. You don't need advice you need CPS to come take away your son.

Who are you talking to? I'm not real, remember?

[the sunday stealer]

When I am in a pickle, I sit on the fattest cucumber I can find... make sure it's clean, don't want sand burn.

[the sunday stealer]

Posters want the parents to be real... so they can unload their shit on surrogate parents because their own parents won't listen. That's why they get so much attention around here. Look at CCM get railed on and she doesn't even support programs really, but then Karen does, but everyone loves her. Funny shit. (not really thou)

like TSW said. either this man is a child abuser who beats his kid. or hes fake. I am going to go with option number 2.. he doesnt seem stupid enough to admit to serious crimes online.

[the sunday stealer]

Personally I'm hoping this clown isn't real. It scares me that there really are people of that sort running around in the world.

Who really needs to trade punches with a 15 year old boy?  Walk away and don't reinforce the violence with more violence.

As far as CCM Girl goes there is more to her story than that. She represents a trend that I've been seeing for awhile now. Its called the middle ground trend, or that is at least what I call it. Lots of advocates get that tendency when they realize exactly what they are up against. These TBS programs aren't going to go away overnight. The advocates get frustrated and being to think that maybe if only the good programs are around things will get better.

It happened to me. Mind you I never voiced that on fornits out of good common sense.

I came out of it. Now I am back to "normal". I now hate all programs again.

They aren't going away. We are a fucking MINISCULE minority of people here. This is mainstream shit. We are like the conspiraacy theorists on their website who think the revolution is about to happen at any time. Reality check, it ain't fucking happening any time soon. Most kids coming out don't want to be a mouth piece for some bat shit crazy loony mother advocate, or get involved in lawsuits, or even think about that shit. The kids who DO want to talk about it, are the brainwashed fanatics who don't shut up about it until they are 35, have no friends, never had sex or got drunk and have a mid life crisis, only there's is a crisis of having no life! Fuck those motherfuckers, and by those motherfuckers you know who I am talking about and it can be anyone. ANYONE!  :roll:

[the sunday stealer]

Yeah, you get it. I am saying, 90% of people who know the truth about WWASPS and programs like that think its abusive and should be shut down.

But like you say the advocates and most anti program people are hawking some other option whether it be a program lite or some other radical option. How many people actually understand the extent of what's happening to today's teenagers, how their freedoms are being stripped from all directions? How the pressures are increasing to inhumane levels? How they hypocrisy that surrounds them just screams to their soul - cry out for freedom and justice... do what your heart desires!! Not many.. not many at all. Most are saying send em to wilderness or an RTC or scare them by calling the cops. What's the next new age light option? We should start a pool bet on it.