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Offline Anonymous

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« on: January 28, 2007, 12:05:47 AM »
:question:  Woof, if you don't mind me asking, for posterity's sake, I would like to know what you consider to be at least one fundamental flaw with the straight inc 'mantra' or philosophy. Nothing too long winded, just a simple diagnosis of sorts. Woof, I'm the guy that you met in Tampa a couple years ago at an event in the evening time in Feb. I realize that you may have already answered this question at one point or another in previous posts, but I have been unable to find it and I'm on a limited time schedule at the moment. If anyone else cares to chime in on this, I'd greatly appreciate it. Like, the fundamental flaw(s) or whathaveyou... There are some soon to be decision-makers whom I believe would benefit from a sincere answer.

Thank you
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2007, 03:02:52 PM »
For the sake of posperity...not be long winded, and to simplify the insainity of Straight Inc. is a tall order...but I'll give it a shot!

#1) Food, Sleep, Social and Personal Deprivation (can't be good)

#2) Fear based motivation (Other than fear, what else does a frightened student learn from a terroristic teacher?)

#3) Lack of Lic. Professionals (Psychologists, Dieticians, Phycriatrist, LSW's)

#4) No clear objectives to"graduate" or to otherwise progress.

#5) The industry of Straight  Inc. preyed on parental concerns for thier kids.

#6) Warehousing children in brutal confrontive "theraphy"

Guest--I can go on and on all day...Desicion makers need invest moretime to allow for greater understanding of what I endured as so many did..Especially if they are intending to put thier kid away

My parents made thier minds up to put me in Straight, knowing full well what it was about. They didn't consider 29 years later...relations still strained, 85-90% due to Straight Inc.

I hope to have been of service...and will glady offer my sincere input.

(not to long winded for me huh?)
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2007, 03:16:35 PM »
#1. Coercive.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2007, 05:53:06 PM »
awesome...

Soon, more details will become available as to the motives behind this effort. Tis hard to explain the specifics with the "Borg" queen (currently operating using straightinc treatment program director) watching... Have faith though, it will be put to good use and may even help save a life or lives.  8-)

It is true that brief time frames do not suffice when "explaining" the program to the public, let alone those entrusted with the powers to decide the fates of others. However, as wise as we are as survivors, there must be a way to articulate into a time constrained and presentation friendly format, a synopsis of the fundamental flaw(s) that are present in this type of treatment modality. This could be a dilemma of sorts, if you may. While it would be a powerful statement to orally project to an audience of decision makers including council's, committee's, and parents of potential and/or current/former clients, it would eliminate the "rambling" aspect and help stifle the inherent compulsive tendencies to venture off topic through examples and experiences, etc...
A suggestion: However many words could be orally projected within 3 minutes would be ideal, with an extreme high pressure blow the lid off any second maximum of 5 minutes. Your outline is a great start and only took me (slowpoke) about 20 seconds to read out loud.  :wink:
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2007, 09:07:09 PM »
One thing that was sorely lacking in my program was any type of rewards system.  That was pretty much left up to the parents.  If I would have had a clear cut reward for compliance, I am pretty sure I would not have been such a big damn jerk and would not have stretched it out for more than 30 days, but when them fuckers told me I could'nt make talk for a whole 14 days and could not go home for 60 days because I was on the more costly "court" program, I pretty much lost all incentive to comply.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2007, 09:09:24 PM »
Another thing I didn't like was that they didn't let you smoke pot there.
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2007, 09:16:01 PM »
#1. The ends justify the means.

#2. ______ can be treated by an indoctrination into a belief system.

#3. No outside reference points, closed system.

#4. Confession of private life required to regain freedoms that are universal human rights.

#5. Little to no privacy, of anything, including private journaling so that a client could have the chance to think things out to himself.

That's all I could think of, I'm not sure they are mantras or philosophies, but I think the lack of all kinds of privacy, emotional, mental, physical, and even spiritual, is necessarily traumatizing.

Just think , if we could have written out our thoughts without anyone looking at them.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2007, 09:25:03 PM »
They fucked up sex for us. Put that in there.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2007, 01:13:15 AM »
as in forced shaming of sexual desires and related activities?
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2007, 01:41:05 AM »
Legal:
I was court ordered in a plea agreement for skipping school.
But I never saw or knew, much less agreed to, any plea agreement about me completing Straight.  It was all done behind my back..
That is a big violation of procedural law and civil rights.

The first Amendment..  Straight was a faith based treatment organization that focused heavily on God and prayer.  Those of us that were court ordered had our freedom of religion taken away.

The action of skipping school was the courts and authorities reason behind sending me to straight...  But at Straight I wasn't allowed to attend school for several months or even read.  Texas law said, and still says, that a qualified physician must evaluate and sign a leave of absence for a student under 17 to leave school for medical/treatment purposes...  I never even saw a physician...

The living standards did not even meet up to the Texas Jail Standards.  Host homes were over crowded, health code wasn't even regulated and often a 14 yr old would be left in charge of up to 4 or more 16 yr olds...

Social:
Straight recruiters and supporters managed to convince schools, parents and others that the drug problems were so strong that extreme actions were required to combat it.  Such as breaking laws and going into debt.

Medical:
A 13 yr client placed to supervise a 24 hour suicide watch over another older client should be enough, but???????we know...
 
When the reality struck that some of the kids in Straight never even did drugs.  Straight took the preventive philosophy saying, ?they haven?t done drugs yet. But they were born with the disease and need treatment to prevent becoming a full blown drug addict.?
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2007, 02:42:34 AM »
I'll post two of my biggest flaws, (and the list is long...)

1.  Everbody who had good insurance HAD A DRUG PROBLEM.  period.  end of conversation.  I am sure everybody here can talk about one (or more) person there with them (or they were that person) who was 12, 13, and didn't even know what drugs were...  Hell, half the kids there weren't i need of that intensive of therapy, even if the therapy was legit and benificial....

2.  It was licensed as an "outpatient" facility, and straight was anything but outpatient.  They never had to follow, or be accountable to, the laws and guidelines that apply to inpatient facilities, which are there for good reason, when you completely take over a persons life and are bassicly in complete control of thier care, sometimes for years.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2007, 07:48:09 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
as in forced shaming of sexual desires and related activities?

Yeah pretty much; thank you there, wordmeister. -Gja.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2007, 08:49:51 AM »
Denial of access to proper medical treatment...both emergent and well-care based.
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