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« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2007, 09:06:00 PM »
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Look.  In no way am i arguing that people should stop talking about normal shit.  I'm just saying when talking to parents... consider the audience.  This isn't a theater.  This is reality.

Hate to tell you, but this fuckin' board has morphed into a comic strip. ::bwahaha::
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« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2007, 09:13:51 PM »
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Hate to tell you, but this fuckin' board has morphed into a comic strip. ::bwahaha::


I'm Calvin, Luke's Hobbes.
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« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2007, 09:14:21 PM »
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Like I said, Anne, those are your issues and not mine. In your case, I agree with CCMGirl and you really need to get over it.  Taking one's inventory seems to be the main goal of this site, doesn't it?  You sure spend a lot of time taking mine and telling me what I do and do not believe and what I do and do not know.  Take a look inside at that anger, Anne.  Is it at parents whose kids are doing well? At parents who are doing well and have good relationships with their kids?  At kids who don't hate their parents EVEN after a program?  Your issues, not mine.


Yep, they're my issues.....given to me by Straight.  You're pretty much the only one I speak to like this, save The Who but y'all are interchangeable at this point.  You bet your ass I'm angry.  A lot was stolen from me.  A lot has been stolen from my kids by some of my families continued belief in the philosophy that this industry is based on.  I and every other vet here has got a god-given, program-bred obligation to be angry enough to call a spade a spade.  How many more kids have to die?  How many more have to lose their families?  How many more will be emotionall crippled for life?  Those things tend to piss me off, but that's just me.

To repeat, AGAIN.   The very basics and fundamentals of 'programs' in the context we're speaking of here are dangerous.  There is nothing safe about them.  You can't dress it up or tone it down.  It's isolation and coersion and it's not pretty.  I've spent the last 20 or so odd years trying to figure out who the fuck I am because the chance to do it when I was supposed to was taken away from me.  I adopted a set of beliefs that I neither understood or agreed with.  I was in my developmental years and someone fucked with my soul.  I'm pissed off about it but I'm more pissed off that last night somewhere, there was an Open Meeting.  Those that were in Straight or it's offshoots know what a chill that sends down my back.  The fact that people like you refuse to see what's in front of you and that you have influence over someone shipping their kids away is infuriating.  The fact that the people who started, ran and continue to defend the program I was in influence public drug policy pisses me the fuck off.  

I've earned my anger.  Get the fuck off my back.

Christ, if I'm angry then I'm a loser and need to "get over it" here.  If I talk about the good things in my life I'm a stuck up bitch elsewhere.  I give up.   Beer anyone?  :silly:  ::bwahaha::
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« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2007, 09:15:54 PM »
Psy- I am not convinced that the program is entirely to blame for the anger and parent-hatred on this forum.  I think many of these posters have serious psychological issues (and I don't mean that as an insult) that could be present with or without a program in their past.
Anne is a good example.  I simply don't believe that all of her problems-throughout her adult life- are the fault of the program she attended or anything that happened to her there.
Someone said that this forum seems to be a receptacle for seriously disturbed people.  Is this the result of attending a program or is attending a program simply another point of common ground?  I don't know.
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« Reply #109 on: January 30, 2007, 09:19:12 PM »
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Quote from: ""Social Security""
Hate to tell you, but this fuckin' board has morphed into a comic strip. ::bwahaha::

I'm Calvin, Luke's Hobbes.

:rofl: I'll have to read Calvin & Hobbes (as well as some posts by the two of you) to fully appreciate this...
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« Reply #110 on: January 30, 2007, 09:20:15 PM »
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Someone said that this forum seems to be a receptacle for seriously disturbed people.  Is this the result of attending a program or is attending a program simply another point of common ground?  I don't know.


I think you are onto something. After all, you post here regularly.
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« Reply #111 on: January 30, 2007, 09:21:23 PM »
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Christ, if I'm angry then I'm a loser and need to "get over it" here. If I talk about the good things in my life I'm a stuck up bitch elsewhere. I give up. Beer anyone?

Take it easy, Anne...it's all good!

How about a smoke instead?  :idea:
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« Reply #112 on: January 30, 2007, 09:22:33 PM »
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Look.  In no way am i arguing that people should stop talking about normal shit.  I'm just saying when talking to parents... consider the audience.  This isn't a theater.  This is reality.
Hate to tell you, but this fuckin' board has morphed into a comic strip. ::bwahaha::


 ::bwahaha::  :roll:  :o  :wave:  :silly:  :smokin:  ::armed::  ::argue::  ::blushing::  ::cheers::  ::crybaby::  ::deal::  ::jawdrop::  ::kiss::  ::mecry::  ::mecry::  ::ftard::  ::bangin::  ::bandit::  ::bandit::  ::bandit::  ::nod::  ::nod::  ::nod::  ::nod::  ::nod::
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« Reply #113 on: January 30, 2007, 09:22:43 PM »
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Quote from: ""Charly""
Someone said that this forum seems to be a receptacle for seriously disturbed people.  Is this the result of attending a program or is attending a program simply another point of common ground?  I don't know.

I think you are onto something. After all, you post here regularly.

Hah!  :rofl:
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« Reply #114 on: January 30, 2007, 09:22:50 PM »
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Psy- I am not convinced that the program is entirely to blame for the anger and parent-hatred on this forum.  I think many of these posters have serious psychological issues (and I don't mean that as an insult) that could be present with or without a program in their past.
Anne is a good example.  I simply don't believe that all of her problems-throughout her adult life- are the fault of the program she attended or anything that happened to her there.

and that's the problem.  You don't see how far reaching and deep this can be.


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Someone said that this forum seems to be a receptacle for seriously disturbed people.  Is this the result of attending a program or is attending a program simply another point of common ground?  I don't know.


Well, I was a pretty normal kid before going in.  The lightweight of my circle of friends.  Straight told my parents all those friends of mine would be deadinsaneorinjail if they didn't talk their parents into signing them in.  They've all gone through life pretty well with no major problems, other than the norm.  No PTSD, no nightmares, relationships with their parents are great.  They were all the heavy hitters of the group, I was the lightweight.  They were left to their own devices, I was put in Straight.  They're pretty normal, I've been pretty fucked up.
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« Reply #115 on: January 30, 2007, 09:24:00 PM »
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Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Christ, if I'm angry then I'm a loser and need to "get over it" here. If I talk about the good things in my life I'm a stuck up bitch elsewhere. I give up. Beer anyone?
Take it easy, Anne...it's all good!

How about a smoke instead?  :idea:



Aw I'm just blowing steam.:D

Puff, puff pass. :smokin:  ::bandit::
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« Reply #116 on: January 30, 2007, 09:24:29 PM »
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I simply don't believe that all of her problems-throughout her adult life- are the fault of the program she attended or anything that happened to her there.

What would you know about that? Stop being a drag or get the fuck out of here.
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« Reply #117 on: January 30, 2007, 09:25:47 PM »
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Psy- I am not convinced that the program is entirely to blame for the anger and parent-hatred on this forum.  I think many of these posters have serious psychological issues (and I don't mean that as an insult) that could be present with or without a program in their past.
Anne is a good example.  I simply don't believe that all of her problems-throughout her adult life- are the fault of the program she attended or anything that happened to her there.
Someone said that this forum seems to be a receptacle for seriously disturbed people.  Is this the result of attending a program or is attending a program simply another point of common ground?  I don't know.


Ok.  Let's assume the wackos on this forum were wackos before they went to program....  WOW.  SUCESS STORIES!!!

Er...   Straight..  Yesh...  Straight was not to blame for Anne's problems....  Have you seen the straight forum.. Do you know what they had to go through.. tell her anne.
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« Reply #118 on: January 30, 2007, 09:27:36 PM »
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Bipolar?

Paranoid Schizo?

What is it?

You an alky?

You like snorting the nose candy?


Check out the thread for troubled parents, I think this parents in need of an escort, pronto!!
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« Reply #119 on: January 30, 2007, 09:31:46 PM »
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How dare you talk about other people's issues again. This seems to be a common theme with you and the industry as a whole. Once a voice of contention in the wilderness rises up people like you trot out the old, "They've gotten problems! Don't take them seriously!"

SO TRUE. And it's funny how we both hit on the same point.
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