Requesting Parents' Assessment of Hyde School

[Anonymous]

How did you find out about this web site?

I stumbled across this site last month when I Googled an acquaintance whose name appears in association with it. It wasn't something that I sought out, but something that I sort of met by accident on the path. I left Hyde thirty years ago with a forward look and not with a backward look. College, graduate schools, marriage, immigration, career, family: all these haven't left me much time to mull over the Hyde effect, whether good or ill. From what little I've gathered, it seems there's an inverse ratio between success at Hyde and success in the real world. That's good news for a guy like me who took Hyde with a grain of salt and was branded a failure. I might have carried my burden of failure on into adulthood, and even gone back for a late-life diploma, like tin man, scarecrow, and cowardly lion. Well, it's wonderful to discover Hyde's dissident community! I had no idea I was in such good company!

Am curious, did you contact this acquaintence?  If so, was he/she aware of this board?

No.

Name of acquaintence?

[Anonymous]

How did you find out about this web site?

I stumbled across this site last month when I Googled an acquaintance whose name appears in association with it. It wasn't something that I sought out, but something that I sort of met by accident on the path. I left Hyde thirty years ago with a forward look and not with a backward look. College, graduate schools, marriage, immigration, career, family: all these haven't left me much time to mull over the Hyde effect, whether good or ill. From what little I've gathered, it seems there's an inverse ratio between success at Hyde and success in the real world. That's good news for a guy like me who took Hyde with a grain of salt and was branded a failure. I might have carried my burden of failure on into adulthood, and even gone back for a late-life diploma, like tin man, scarecrow, and cowardly lion. Well, it's wonderful to discover Hyde's dissident community! I had no idea I was in such good company!

What was that pop song from about 30 years ago?  "Oz never gave nothing to the tinman that he didn't all ready have."  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.  It is just Joe.  I have been thru the desert on a horse with no name since then, so I can't remember my name.
BTW  I just watched Doug Pray's "Hype" on DVD.  It is really good.  

Emil Nightrate[/quote]

Good to hear from you again, Emil. I remember listening to America late night with Lynch on our transistor.

Mike

[Anonymous]

How did you find out about this web site?

I stumbled across this site last month when I Googled an acquaintance whose name appears in association with it. It wasn't something that I sought out, but something that I sort of met by accident on the path. I left Hyde thirty years ago with a forward look and not with a backward look. College, graduate schools, marriage, immigration, career, family: all these haven't left me much time to mull over the Hyde effect, whether good or ill. From what little I've gathered, it seems there's an inverse ratio between success at Hyde and success in the real world. That's good news for a guy like me who took Hyde with a grain of salt and was branded a failure. I might have carried my burden of failure on into adulthood, and even gone back for a late-life diploma, like tin man, scarecrow, and cowardly lion. Well, it's wonderful to discover Hyde's dissident community! I had no idea I was in such good company!

Am curious, did you contact this acquaintence?  If so, was he/she aware of this board?

No.

Name of acquaintence?

Ed Legg.

[Anonymous]

How did you find out about this web site?

I stumbled across this site last month when I Googled an acquaintance whose name appears in association with it. It wasn't something that I sought out, but something that I sort of met by accident on the path. I left Hyde thirty years ago with a forward look and not with a backward look. College, graduate schools, marriage, immigration, career, family: all these haven't left me much time to mull over the Hyde effect, whether good or ill. From what little I've gathered, it seems there's an inverse ratio between success at Hyde and success in the real world. That's good news for a guy like me who took Hyde with a grain of salt and was branded a failure. I might have carried my burden of failure on into adulthood, and even gone back for a late-life diploma, like tin man, scarecrow, and cowardly lion. Well, it's wonderful to discover Hyde's dissident community! I had no idea I was in such good company!

Am curious, did you contact this acquaintence?  If so, was he/she aware of this board?

No.

Name of acquaintence?

Ed Legg.

 
 Oh Mr Ed "I love the sound of my own voice. You need to be committed to changing the world" Legg?  He is revolutionizing American Society as the Assistant Dean of Dribble Glass Studies at some podunk commuter school.  Is that too harsh?  Sorry.

Emil

[Anonymous]

How did you find out about this web site?

I stumbled across this site last month when I Googled an acquaintance whose name appears in association with it. It wasn't something that I sought out, but something that I sort of met by accident on the path. I left Hyde thirty years ago with a forward look and not with a backward look. College, graduate schools, marriage, immigration, career, family: all these haven't left me much time to mull over the Hyde effect, whether good or ill. From what little I've gathered, it seems there's an inverse ratio between success at Hyde and success in the real world. That's good news for a guy like me who took Hyde with a grain of salt and was branded a failure. I might have carried my burden of failure on into adulthood, and even gone back for a late-life diploma, like tin man, scarecrow, and cowardly lion. Well, it's wonderful to discover Hyde's dissident community! I had no idea I was in such good company!

Am curious, did you contact this acquaintence?  If so, was he/she aware of this board?

No.

Name of acquaintence?

Ed Legg.

 
 Oh Mr Ed "I love the sound of my own voice. I want you to be committed to changing the world" Legg?  He is revolutionizing American Society as the Assistant Dean of Dribble Glass Studies at some podunk commuter school.  Is that too harsh?  Sorry.

Emil

I have his coordinates, Emil. I don't care about his job. That's not why I haven't contacted him.

Mike

[Anonymous]

I think it's A.D. of "university relations," if I'm not mistaken.  Is this a fancy way of saying "PR Man?"  If so, that's a bit like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse, if you ask me...

But he also has his own company of sorts, even if in name only, as it is noted as the source for numerous campaign contributions (his other "title" gave more but I did see this as well)...

[Anonymous]

I think it's A.D. of "university relations," if I'm not mistaken.  Is this a fancy way of saying "PR Man?"  If so, that's a bit like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse, if you ask me...

But he also has his own company of sorts, even if in name only, as it is noted as the source for numerous campaign contributions (his other "title" gave more but I did see this as well)...

  I am sure he has done well for himself.  He was a smart guy.  Look at how he manuvered himself into the headmasters job,  moved Joe aside, brought in an expert to say Joe had to go then had the old man dumped.  It was all very shrewed.  The question I have is "Why"  It makes no sense to me.  Did he have some messianic view of himself?  OR was he like that character in the movie "In the Company of Men"  He did it as a game to see it he could?
 A lot of people from back then love him still. I am not one of them.  I just find it ironic that some one that would preach such lofty sermons would end up doing something so quodidian as the front man for a commuter school.

emil

[Anonymous]

It would not take too much of an expert to come up with the Joe-Had-To-Go conclusion.  Although, I am sure he paid dearly for it.  And I wouldn't rule out a messiah complex, either.  Because he had to have highly occlusive blinders on, it was stupid; Hyde was Joe's game.

Notwithstanding the inalienable right Ed Legg and his family have to their particular version of the pursuit of happiness, what he did to me sucked pure sulphuric acid.  I have an absolutely visceral response to even seeing his name in print, and I suspect I am not alone in that.  He really should be held accountable for the countless lives he has ruined.

Although he certainly has a rather dogmatic way of thinking, I like to hope that he is still capable of a crisis of conscience.  Let us hope so, even if only for the sake of his soul.

[Anonymous]

It would not take too much of an expert to come up with the Joe-Had-To-Go conclusion.  Although, I am sure he paid dearly for it.  And I wouldn't rule out a messiah complex, either.  Because he had to have highly occlusive blinders on, it was stupid; Hyde was Joe's game.

Notwithstanding the inalienable right Ed Legg and his family have to their particular version of the pursuit of happiness, what he did to me sucked pure sulphuric acid.  I have an absolutely visceral response to even seeing his name in print, and I suspect I am not alone in that.  He really should be held accountable for the countless lives he has ruined.

Although he certainly has a rather dogmatic way of thinking, I like to hope that he is still capable of a crisis of conscience.  Let us hope so, even if only for the sake of his soul.

 It is really funny how two different people can have a complete opposite view of the same thing and both be correct.  You talk to some of the people he inspired or the guys on that 14-0 football team he coached, and they will tell you he was the greatest thing since Jesus Christ.  And to them it is true.  He never screwed them.  The same thing is true about Joe.  When you talk to people that are still invested in hyde you have to becareful about what you say.  I made the mistake of saying something negative about Ed to one person who just glares at me now.   Joe, Ed and Co. had some god like power over kids lifes.  You know, I wonder what it was that made Joe back hand one girl and think another was his personal Helen Keller-esque victory.  I know what happened to one of them.  I wonder if the girl he back handed turned out any better.

Emil

[Anonymous]

Or the former graduate he saw fit to make his own personal Lolita? whilst still married to Blanche, I?ve heard.

It all boils down to a flagrant abuse of power.  These people are so drunk on themselves that they step over the line right and left and any which way you look at it.  None of this has any business happening in an institution ostensibly created for the purpose of educating kids.

And the kids don?t know any better.  You are at a time of your life where you are oh-so-impressionable and confused about a LOT of things, and you have grownups passing themselves off as the closest thing to Gandhi, filled with all sorts of high falutin? ideals about character.  And the next thing you know, you piss one of them off or do the wrong tihing and you branded as essentially and integrally and totally a failure for life...  That there is something wrong with you at the CORE...  Who are these people passing such supreme judgement?

Character, my ass.  I say cult cult cult.

[Anonymous]

Or the former graduate he saw fit to make his own personal Lolita? whilst still married to Blanche, I?ve heard.

It all boils down to a flagrant abuse of power.  These people are so drunk on themselves that they step over the line right and left and any which way you look at it.  None of this has any business happening in an institution ostensibly created for the purpose of educating kids.

And the kids don?t know any better.  You are at a time of your life where you are oh-so-impressionable and confused about a LOT of things, and you have grownups passing themselves off as the closest thing to Gandhi, filled with all sorts of high falutin? ideals about character.  And the next thing you know, you piss one of them off or do the wrong tihing and you branded as essentially and integrally and totally a failure for life...  That there is something wrong with you at the CORE...  Who are these people passing such supreme judgement?

Character, my ass.  I say cult cult cult.

 You know, the more I think about it the harder it is to argue.  

She was about 20 at the time so Lolita is a lillte bit of a stretch, but not much.  Joe was about my age at the time.  I remember how beautiful dream weaver was.  My daughter has friends that are just about as hot as she was. You know what comes to mind is Jan Holland.  She use to say "You are sick, sick, sick!"
Here is a guy that raised three kids in a house with an active alcoholic telling you that you are screwed up, then hitting on a girl that was YOUNGER then his oldest daughter.  Yup character all right. A real role model for us all.

Emil

[Anonymous]

Yeah, Jan had a nicely acerbic take on the place.  I didn?t dare get to know her.  I was too perfused with the Kool-Aid at the time, harboring hopeless notions that surely they would realize how hard I was trying, how much I believed, and how earnest my intentions?

And that just gets me.  Cuz so many kids were in just that boat, and Hyde saw fit to capsize that boat on them as  ? in that tremendous and infinite capacity for the discernment of character that only Hyde can have ? Hyde found them wanting, lacking in character, or perhaps lacking the charisma and devotion necessary to scion the next generation of Galled-a-linis to carry on the cause.

In retrospect, of course, I consider myself most blessed.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, Jan had a nicely acerbic take on the place.  I didn?t dare get to know her.  I was too perfused with the Kool-Aid at the time, harboring hopeless notions that surely they would realize how hard I was trying, how much I believed, and how earnest my intentions?

And that just gets me.  Cuz so many kids were in just that boat, and Hyde saw fit to capsize that boat on them as  ? in that tremendous and infinite capacity for the discernment of character that only Hyde can have ? Hyde found them wanting, lacking in character, or perhaps lacking the charisma and devotion necessary to scion the next generation of Galled-a-linis to carry on the cause.

In retrospect, of course, I consider myself most blessed.

  I had no hyde kool-aide.  Had some of the electric kind in summer school.  There was a guy in the outhouse that had a picture of a toad on the wall.  He had a sheet of blotter acid behind the picture.  I remember being in the room with him and having Henry Milton come in.  Old Henry looked directly at the picture and comented on it.  You have never really experiance Henry until you listen to him give you a lecture on resonsiblity as his face is melting into his torso.  I have a fond memory of him looking like a picasso cubist rendering.
 I never spoke in a school meeting unless spoken to directly.   It was my own personal rule.  Joe tried to may a school meeting about me once.  He did a imitation of me being defeated at a wrestling match. "I wonder how that must have felt.  It must have been really humiliating" he said as he glared at me.  I just sat there and glared back.  He releaized he was not going to crack me and moved on to something else.  I never broke a rule during the two regular years I was in attendance.  I never turned anyone in.  I never confronted anybodies attitide. Patrick Magoonan in the "Prisoner" was my role model.  Worked for me.

Emil

[Anonymous]

I had no hyde kool-aide. Had some of the electric kind in summer school. There was a guy in the outhouse that had a picture of a toad on the wall. He had a sheet of blotter acid behind the picture. I remember being in the room with him and having Henry Milton come in. Old Henry looked directly at the picture and comented on it. You have never really experiance Henry until you listen to him give you a lecture on resonsiblity as his face is melting into his torso. I have a fond memory of him looking like a picasso cubist rendering.

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

OHHHH, ...too excellent!!

[Anonymous]

Or the former graduate he saw fit to make his own personal Lolita? whilst still married to Blanche, I?ve heard.

It all boils down to a flagrant abuse of power.  These people are so drunk on themselves that they step over the line right and left and any which way you look at it.  None of this has any business happening in an institution ostensibly created for the purpose of educating kids.

And the kids don?t know any better.  You are at a time of your life where you are oh-so-impressionable and confused about a LOT of things, and you have grownups passing themselves off as the closest thing to Gandhi, filled with all sorts of high falutin? ideals about character.  And the next thing you know, you piss one of them off or do the wrong tihing and you branded as essentially and integrally and totally a failure for life...  That there is something wrong with you at the CORE...  Who are these people passing such supreme judgement?

Character, my ass.  I say cult cult cult.

 You know, the more I think about it the harder it is to argue.  

She was about 20 at the time so Lolita is a lillte bit of a stretch, but not much.  Joe was about my age at the time.  I remember how beautiful dream weaver was.  My daughter has friends that are just about as hot as she was. You know what comes to mind is Jan Holland.  She use to say "You are sick, sick, sick!"
Here is a guy that raised three kids in a house with an active alcoholic telling you that you are screwed up, then hitting on a girl that was YOUNGER then his oldest daughter.  Yup character all right. A real role model for us all.

Emil

One of the most laughable features of Hyde is Joe Gauld's portrait of himself as a virtuous model of good character.  It's hard for me to identify anyone else I've ever come across in my lifetime who qualifies as a bigger hypocrite.  I wonder if current Hyde parents know his personal history and have any sense of Gauld's gall.  Few things in life make me angrier than my memories of Gauld and his cronies telling other people (more like preaching) how to live their lives when they're perfect examples of qualities I DON'T admire or want to emulate.  The only reason to listen to Joe Gauld and many others at Hyde is to learn how NOT to live a life.  I feel so sorry for parents who pay Hyde even a dime and enroll their kids.  What a waste.