Requesting Parents' Assessment of Hyde School

[Anonymous]

Old Hyde Student 1973,

I too am a Hyde graduate, broadly defined. For all the guilt you must feel, you did the honorable thing in refusing the diploma. In a topsy-turvy morality like Hyde, where children are turned into Kapos, a Hyde diploma should be deplored. I pity those students who later in life feel compelled to go back for one.    

Publicly punishing offenders (for venial faults of one's past, no less) reminds me of the pillory of Puritan times. Shaving a woman's head and having her scrub streets and sidewalks, a punishment I was forced to witness a few years after you, has always reminded me of the famous photos of shaved Viennese Jewish women doing the same during the Holocaust. I am at a loss to conjure up a historical parallel for the dog collar and leash. Freezing showers and forcing one to sleep naked on a hard cold floor are torture, pure and simple. I would very much like to know what diseased imagination introduced these punishments into the Hyde disciplinary regimen. It's criminal. I wouldn't put it past Joe Gauld, but frankly, as I recall these things now from the perspectives of hindsight, my sense of disgust extends to the entire Hyde School leadership, even to those faculty members whom I once held in respect.

Hyde students, speak up! What is that school doing to you today? Have they parleyed physical abuse into less tangible, more discreet forms of emotional abuse? That appears to be the case from what I've read in these posts.                

I hope that Gary, in writing up his Hyde report, consults with a professional sociologist who alone could do justice to the theme of Hyde School.

Sad, sad, sad.  My heart breaks for the poster OHS 1973.  I can definitely relate to the feelings of shame you have by being a willing participant.  I also feel shame, not as a student, but as a parent. My son went to Hyde in the last 1990's.

 I feel shame for many reasons. I too bullied some other parents when they weren't "digging deep enough."  Looking back some of these other students/parents clearly needed professional help and instead they got inexperienced fools like myself pushng them to talk about previous pain in their life.  Who was I to do this?  I have no experience whatsoever but somehow I got caught up in the whole Hyde thing.  I cannot be mad at Hyde for this, but instead am upset with myself for being so weak that I allowed Hyde to turn me into one of their "kapo's."

Yes Hyde has changed in that they don't use dog collars or leashes anymore and the kids don't dig ditches as before, but the basics of Hyde are still the same and worse than that, the school faculty remains the same.  The same Gaulds, Grants, Hurds, McMillans are all still there and these are the same people who were there in the 70's, so what does this tell you?  

Thanks for sharing your story OHS 1973.  This is better than seminars at Hyde because there isn't the same abuse involved while trying to get things off your chest. It feels a little better that other feel the same shame that I have been feeling for years.  To those who I verbally bullied, I apologize.

I have the same question for a couple of you that someone else asked.  I am curious if you found this website on your own by "googling" it or if someone guided you to it.

   I know some of the people that have gone back to get a Hyde diploma.  I can understand why they want to do so.   It is very difficult to walk out of a place that that dominates your sense of self worth and not be acknowledged.  There is a need for resolution or closure.
  I was invited to go thru the process.  I have elected to decline the offer.  My sense is that it would be a diminution of self, in my case, to use Hyde as an external validation source. That is just because of the way I view Hyde at this point.  I have come to this point after several impulses to do so.
 I have a great deal of repsect for some of the people elect to get the diploma.  I was very happy to see Joan G. do so.

[Anonymous]

Old Hyde Student 1973,

I too am a Hyde graduate, broadly defined. For all the guilt you must feel, you did the honorable thing in refusing the diploma. In a topsy-turvy morality like Hyde, where children are turned into Kapos, a Hyde diploma should be deplored. I pity those students who later in life feel compelled to go back for one.    

Publicly punishing offenders (for venial faults of one's past, no less) reminds me of the pillory of Puritan times. Shaving a woman's head and having her scrub streets and sidewalks, a punishment I was forced to witness a few years after you, has always reminded me of the famous photos of shaved Viennese Jewish women doing the same during the Holocaust. I am at a loss to conjure up a historical parallel for the dog collar and leash. Freezing showers and forcing one to sleep naked on a hard cold floor are torture, pure and simple. I would very much like to know what diseased imagination introduced these punishments into the Hyde disciplinary regimen. It's criminal. I wouldn't put it past Joe Gauld, but frankly, as I recall these things now from the perspectives of hindsight, my sense of disgust extends to the entire Hyde School leadership, even to those faculty members whom I once held in respect.

Hyde students, speak up! What is that school doing to you today? Have they parleyed physical abuse into less tangible, more discreet forms of emotional abuse? That appears to be the case from what I've read in these posts.                

I hope that Gary, in writing up his Hyde report, consults with a professional sociologist who alone could do justice to the theme of Hyde School.

Sad, sad, sad.  My heart breaks for the poster OHS 1973.  I can definitely relate to the feelings of shame you have by being a willing participant.  I also feel shame, not as a student, but as a parent. My son went to Hyde in the last 1990's.

 I feel shame for many reasons. I too bullied some other parents when they weren't "digging deep enough."  Looking back some of these other students/parents clearly needed professional help and instead they got inexperienced fools like myself pushng them to talk about previous pain in their life.  Who was I to do this?  I have no experience whatsoever but somehow I got caught up in the whole Hyde thing.  I cannot be mad at Hyde for this, but instead am upset with myself for being so weak that I allowed Hyde to turn me into one of their "kapo's."

Yes Hyde has changed in that they don't use dog collars or leashes anymore and the kids don't dig ditches as before, but the basics of Hyde are still the same and worse than that, the school faculty remains the same.  The same Gaulds, Grants, Hurds, McMillans are all still there and these are the same people who were there in the 70's, so what does this tell you?  

Thanks for sharing your story OHS 1973.  This is better than seminars at Hyde because there isn't the same abuse involved while trying to get things off your chest. It feels a little better that other feel the same shame that I have been feeling for years.  To those who I verbally bullied, I apologize.

I have the same question for a couple of you that someone else asked.  I am curious if you found this website on your own by "googling" it or if someone guided you to it.

   I know some of the people that have gone back to get a Hyde diploma.  I can understand why they want to do so.   It is very difficult to walk out of a place that that dominates your sense of self worth and not be acknowledged.  There is a need for resolution or closure.
  I was invited to go thru the process.  I have elected to decline the offer.  My sense is that it would be a diminution of self, in my case, to use Hyde as an external validation source. That is just because of the way I view Hyde at this point.  I have come to this point after several impulses to do so.
 I have a great deal of repsect for some of the people elect to get the diploma.  I was very happy to see Joan G. do so.

Ah, you've hit the nail on the head when you refer to Hyde's bullying tactics.  That's the word I've been struggling to find.  During my whole Hyde experience I felt bullied, but until I read your comment I hadn't come up with the right label.  I saw many students who were bullied by staff who thought they had license to get in their faces, point fingers at them, call them names, and degrade them.  I saw parents in seminars who were bullied by other parents (usually alumni parents) and teachers.  I always wondered what kind of training these people had; apparently none or not much.  Sometimes the bullying was in the form of yelling and intimidation; sometimes it was much more subtle manipulation and brainwashing.

I have been deeply embarrassed to admit that I was affiliated with Hyde in any form.  It feels like a bad stain that I can't eradicate.  Bullying is the word.

[Anonymous]

My life did turn out to be good and worth living I straightened out my substance abuse problems not needing any Rehabilitation Center, I just decided enough was enough and stopped. I met the girl of my dreams have been married for over twenty years, have a wonderful son, a good job and am looking forward to the rest of my life. Funny thing is I don?t attribute much of the good part of my life to The Hyde School, I probably just needed to forgive myself, come to terms with who I am, deal with my short comings, grow up and get on with it, which was my intension from the very beginning of this long strange trip called life.

What a story, so well remembered and told.  Would you like it to appear in print, under a pseudonym if necessary?

GE

Gary, I will have to think about my story appearing in print. For those who knew me there are to many hints to my identity. I would'nt want the life I have now jeopardized for any reason.

[Anonymous]

Old Hyde Student 1973,

I too am a Hyde graduate, broadly defined. For all the guilt you must feel, you did the honorable thing in refusing the diploma. In a topsy-turvy morality like Hyde, where children are turned into Kapos, a Hyde diploma should be deplored. I pity those students who later in life feel compelled to go back for one.    

Publicly punishing offenders (for venial faults of one's past, no less) reminds me of the pillory of Puritan times. Shaving a woman's head and having her scrub streets and sidewalks, a punishment I was forced to witness a few years after you, has always reminded me of the famous photos of shaved Viennese Jewish women doing the same during the Holocaust. I am at a loss to conjure up a historical parallel for the dog collar and leash. Freezing showers and forcing one to sleep naked on a hard cold floor are torture, pure and simple. I would very much like to know what diseased imagination introduced these punishments into the Hyde disciplinary regimen. It's criminal. I wouldn't put it past Joe Gauld, but frankly, as I recall these things now from the perspectives of hindsight, my sense of disgust extends to the entire Hyde School leadership, even to those faculty members whom I once held in respect.

Hyde students, speak up! What is that school doing to you today? Have they parleyed physical abuse into less tangible, more discreet forms of emotional abuse? That appears to be the case from what I've read in these posts.                

I hope that Gary, in writing up his Hyde report, consults with a professional sociologist who alone could do justice to the theme of Hyde School.

Sad, sad, sad.  My heart breaks for the poster OHS 1973.  I can definitely relate to the feelings of shame you have by being a willing participant.  I also feel shame, not as a student, but as a parent. My son went to Hyde in the last 1990's.

 I feel shame for many reasons. I too bullied some other parents when they weren't "digging deep enough."  Looking back some of these other students/parents clearly needed professional help and instead they got inexperienced fools like myself pushng them to talk about previous pain in their life.  Who was I to do this?  I have no experience whatsoever but somehow I got caught up in the whole Hyde thing.  I cannot be mad at Hyde for this, but instead am upset with myself for being so weak that I allowed Hyde to turn me into one of their "kapo's."

Yes Hyde has changed in that they don't use dog collars or leashes anymore and the kids don't dig ditches as before, but the basics of Hyde are still the same and worse than that, the school faculty remains the same.  The same Gaulds, Grants, Hurds, McMillans are all still there and these are the same people who were there in the 70's, so what does this tell you?  

Thanks for sharing your story OHS 1973.  This is better than seminars at Hyde because there isn't the same abuse involved while trying to get things off your chest. It feels a little better that other feel the same shame that I have been feeling for years.  To those who I verbally bullied, I apologize.

I have the same question for a couple of you that someone else asked.  I am curious if you found this website on your own by "googling" it or if someone guided you to it.

If I remember correctly I googled ?Hyde School negative experience?. I felt compelled to do so because I had been receiving very professional and in my opinion slick fund raising material. These materials forced me to evaluate myself and my Hyde experience. I had suppressed so much over the years that when I finally took an honest look at my experiences and how they may have affected my life the memories came flooding in and I became extremely saddened. My goal in googling Hyde School was to see if anyone else was feeling the same way after so many years. Honestly the school has never left my consciousness and I don?t know why. One wouldn?t think that over a span of a life time that a paltry two years would have such a great impact. The two years that I spent at the school were very intense and compact. The experiences taken into full context became horrifying with any positive aspect being over run by the negative. These experiences were lived during my most formative years and that is why I suspect have had such an impact. Thankfully I found this site and am gaining some closure.

[Anonymous]

Old Hyde Student 1973,

I too am a Hyde graduate, broadly defined. For all the guilt you must feel, you did the honorable thing in refusing the diploma. In a topsy-turvy morality like Hyde, where children are turned into Kapos, a Hyde diploma should be deplored. I pity those students who later in life feel compelled to go back for one.    

Publicly punishing offenders (for venial faults of one's past, no less) reminds me of the pillory of Puritan times. Shaving a woman's head and having her scrub streets and sidewalks, a punishment I was forced to witness a few years after you, has always reminded me of the famous photos of shaved Viennese Jewish women doing the same during the Holocaust. I am at a loss to conjure up a historical parallel for the dog collar and leash. Freezing showers and forcing one to sleep naked on a hard cold floor are torture, pure and simple. I would very much like to know what diseased imagination introduced these punishments into the Hyde disciplinary regimen. It's criminal. I wouldn't put it past Joe Gauld, but frankly, as I recall these things now from the perspectives of hindsight, my sense of disgust extends to the entire Hyde School leadership, even to those faculty members whom I once held in respect.

Hyde students, speak up! What is that school doing to you today? Have they parleyed physical abuse into less tangible, more discreet forms of emotional abuse? That appears to be the case from what I've read in these posts.                

I hope that Gary, in writing up his Hyde report, consults with a professional sociologist who alone could do justice to the theme of Hyde School.

Sad, sad, sad.  My heart breaks for the poster OHS 1973.  I can definitely relate to the feelings of shame you have by being a willing participant.  I also feel shame, not as a student, but as a parent. My son went to Hyde in the last 1990's.

 I feel shame for many reasons. I too bullied some other parents when they weren't "digging deep enough."  Looking back some of these other students/parents clearly needed professional help and instead they got inexperienced fools like myself pushng them to talk about previous pain in their life.  Who was I to do this?  I have no experience whatsoever but somehow I got caught up in the whole Hyde thing.  I cannot be mad at Hyde for this, but instead am upset with myself for being so weak that I allowed Hyde to turn me into one of their "kapo's."

Yes Hyde has changed in that they don't use dog collars or leashes anymore and the kids don't dig ditches as before, but the basics of Hyde are still the same and worse than that, the school faculty remains the same.  The same Gaulds, Grants, Hurds, McMillans are all still there and these are the same people who were there in the 70's, so what does this tell you?  

Thanks for sharing your story OHS 1973.  This is better than seminars at Hyde because there isn't the same abuse involved while trying to get things off your chest. It feels a little better that other feel the same shame that I have been feeling for years.  To those who I verbally bullied, I apologize.

I have the same question for a couple of you that someone else asked.  I am curious if you found this website on your own by "googling" it or if someone guided you to it.

If I remember correctly I googled ?Hyde School negative experience?. I felt compelled to do so because I had been receiving very professional and in my opinion slick fund raising material. These materials forced me to evaluate myself and my Hyde experience. I had suppressed so much over the years that when I finally took an honest look at my experiences and how they may have affected my life the memories came flooding in and I became extremely saddened. My goal in googling Hyde School was to see if anyone else was feeling the same way after so many years. Honestly the school has never left my consciousness and I don?t know why. One wouldn?t think that over a span of a life time that a paltry two years would have such a great impact. The two years that I spent at the school were very intense and compact. The experiences taken into full context became horrifying with any positive aspect being over run by the negative. These experiences were lived during my most formative years and that is why I suspect have had such an impact. Thankfully I found this site and am gaining some closure.

  Yes, Very slick.  Some one else where posted the name of an agency where you can look at Hyde finanical statements.  They are paying a large amount of money to an agency in Portland.  Between 200k - 600k a year.  I can't recall the actual number.  I was called and asked to donate a very large sum of money.  My knee jerk reaction was to say "are you out of your fu**ing mind?"

[Anonymous]

Old Hyde Student 1973,

I too am a Hyde graduate, broadly defined. For all the guilt you must feel, you did the honorable thing in refusing the diploma. In a topsy-turvy morality like Hyde, where children are turned into Kapos, a Hyde diploma should be deplored. I pity those students who later in life feel compelled to go back for one.    

Publicly punishing offenders (for venial faults of one's past, no less) reminds me of the pillory of Puritan times. Shaving a woman's head and having her scrub streets and sidewalks, a punishment I was forced to witness a few years after you, has always reminded me of the famous photos of shaved Viennese Jewish women doing the same during the Holocaust. I am at a loss to conjure up a historical parallel for the dog collar and leash. Freezing showers and forcing one to sleep naked on a hard cold floor are torture, pure and simple. I would very much like to know what diseased imagination introduced these punishments into the Hyde disciplinary regimen. It's criminal. I wouldn't put it past Joe Gauld, but frankly, as I recall these things now from the perspectives of hindsight, my sense of disgust extends to the entire Hyde School leadership, even to those faculty members whom I once held in respect.

Hyde students, speak up! What is that school doing to you today? Have they parleyed physical abuse into less tangible, more discreet forms of emotional abuse? That appears to be the case from what I've read in these posts.                

I hope that Gary, in writing up his Hyde report, consults with a professional sociologist who alone could do justice to the theme of Hyde School.

Sad, sad, sad.  My heart breaks for the poster OHS 1973.  I can definitely relate to the feelings of shame you have by being a willing participant.  I also feel shame, not as a student, but as a parent. My son went to Hyde in the last 1990's.

 I feel shame for many reasons. I too bullied some other parents when they weren't "digging deep enough."  Looking back some of these other students/parents clearly needed professional help and instead they got inexperienced fools like myself pushng them to talk about previous pain in their life.  Who was I to do this?  I have no experience whatsoever but somehow I got caught up in the whole Hyde thing.  I cannot be mad at Hyde for this, but instead am upset with myself for being so weak that I allowed Hyde to turn me into one of their "kapo's."

Yes Hyde has changed in that they don't use dog collars or leashes anymore and the kids don't dig ditches as before, but the basics of Hyde are still the same and worse than that, the school faculty remains the same.  The same Gaulds, Grants, Hurds, McMillans are all still there and these are the same people who were there in the 70's, so what does this tell you?  

Thanks for sharing your story OHS 1973.  This is better than seminars at Hyde because there isn't the same abuse involved while trying to get things off your chest. It feels a little better that other feel the same shame that I have been feeling for years.  To those who I verbally bullied, I apologize.

I have the same question for a couple of you that someone else asked.  I am curious if you found this website on your own by "googling" it or if someone guided you to it.

If I remember correctly I googled ?Hyde School negative experience?. I felt compelled to do so because I had been receiving very professional and in my opinion slick fund raising material. These materials forced me to evaluate myself and my Hyde experience. I had suppressed so much over the years that when I finally took an honest look at my experiences and how they may have affected my life the memories came flooding in and I became extremely saddened. My goal in googling Hyde School was to see if anyone else was feeling the same way after so many years. Honestly the school has never left my consciousness and I don?t know why. One wouldn?t think that over a span of a life time that a paltry two years would have such a great impact. The two years that I spent at the school were very intense and compact. The experiences taken into full context became horrifying with any positive aspect being over run by the negative. These experiences were lived during my most formative years and that is why I suspect have had such an impact. Thankfully I found this site and am gaining some closure.

  Yes, Very slick.  Some one else where posted the name of an agency where you can look at Hyde finanical statements.  They are paying a large amount of money to an agency in Portland.  Between 200k - 600k a year.  I can't recall the actual number.  I was called and asked to donate a very large sum of money.  My knee jerk reaction was to say "are you out of your fu**ing mind?"

[Anonymous]

I too, have received many "offers" over the years to go back and tell all what I've been up to in the context of rationalizing why I should receive a diploma.  In my case, I did not even graduate.  I was told to leave in no uncertain terms a few weeks before the end of the school year; no reason was given but it was right before one of the purges so I imagine I was considered in that boat.  I had to hitchhike home two states away.

It was many years before I dared to apply to college.  I found out that I had amassed so many Carnegie credits -- in part due to coming back the extra year (I had been informed that I would not be able to receive a diploma otherwise, and didn't anyway as it turned out) -- that I had almost twice that required to be considered a high school graduate.  With the support of friends, I mustered up the courage to call the school to request my transcript.  Knowing Hyde, I requested (from Bob Bertschy) that only the transcript be sent, NO additional information.  I was assured that this would be done.  A few months passed.  After a few more phone calls, I finally received my copy of the transcript, which had been sent to the schools I requested.  An additional page had been included, written by Bertschy, detailing how I did not receive a diploma but only a "certificate" as I had failed to live up to the standards of a diploma.  Moreover, Bertschy saw fit to detail many of my "character flaws" as well as his assessment of my potential success (or lack thereof).  His diatribe was several paragraphs long and essentially covered the entire page.

What I have related above is but the tiniest of iceberg tips of the eviscerating damage I feel I have suffered at the hands of Hyde.  I feel so traumatized that I really can not talk to anyone about it; I have been living under a rock emotionally for the past 30 years.

I concur with the above poster earlier today who describes people's need for a diploma:  "It is very difficult to walk out of a place that dominates your sense of self worth and not be acknowledged. There is a need for resolution or closure."  However, given my own personal history of the place, I am afraid that I can not do so.  My feeling about going back to receive my diploma is that it is not a question of whether or not I feel I deserve it.  It is a question of whether I would deign to have my name associated with Hyde, and the answer is "no."

[Anonymous]

I too, have received many "offers" over the years to go back and tell all what I've been up to in the context of rationalizing why I should receive a diploma.  In my case, I did not even graduate.  I was told to leave in no uncertain terms a few weeks before the end of the school year; no reason was given but it was right before one of the purges so I imagine I was considered in that boat.  I had to hitchhike home two states away.

It was many years before I dared to apply to college.  I found out that I had amassed so many Carnegie credits -- in part due to coming back the extra year (I had been informed that I would not be able to receive a diploma otherwise, and didn't anyway as it turned out) -- that I had almost twice that required to be considered a high school graduate.  With the support of friends, I mustered up the courage to call the school to request my transcript.  Knowing Hyde, I requested (from Bob Bertschy) that only the transcript be sent, NO additional information.  I was assured that this would be done.  A few months passed.  After a few more phone calls, I finally received my copy of the transcript, which had been sent to the schools I requested.  An additional page had been included, written by Bertschy, detailing how I did not receive a diploma but only a "certificate" as I had failed to live up to the standards of a diploma.  Moreover, Bertschy saw fit to detail many of my "character flaws" as well as his assessment of my potential success (or lack thereof).  His diatribe was several paragraphs long and essentially covered the entire page.

What I have related above is but the tiniest of iceberg tips of the eviscerating damage I feel I have suffered at the hands of Hyde.  I feel so traumatized that I really can not talk to anyone about it; I have been living under a rock emotionally for the past 30 years.

I concur with the above poster earlier today who describes people's need for a diploma:  "It is very difficult to walk out of a place that dominates your sense of self worth and not be acknowledged. There is a need for resolution or closure."  However, given my own personal history of the place, I am afraid that I can not do so.  My feeling about going back to receive my diploma is that it is not a question of whether or not I feel I deserve it.  It is a question of whether I would deign to have my name associated with Hyde, and the answer is "no."

  The thing that is damaging about failing at Hyde is that it is your faul,t in the world of the hyde dogma.  You know maybe it is Hyde.  Maybe if the dean of students did not decide you neded to be confronted, or Joe decided he liked your "spirit" instead for finding you had a lack of personality, maybe your outcome would be different.  But that is outside the frme of possiblity in the hyde universe.  A number of the  kids I was there with, that graduated really had something going for them but a number of them were just kiss ass conformist.  Joe traded one system that could be gamed for another.  Hey,  one of the hot threads here is about a Hyde diploma holder.

[Anonymous]

Are you talking about that sorry excuse for a man, Larry D.?  If he is a pillar of success then I'll take my chances with the bottom-dredging rejects.

[Anonymous]

Are you talking about that sorry excuse for a man, Larry D.?  If he is a pillar of success then I'll take my chances with the bottom-dredging rejects.

  Yes.  In the world of manufacturing we call them "escapes"  Parts that test good but don't function in the field.  There were a couple of notable escapes from my era.

[Anonymous]

Are you talking about that sorry excuse for a man, Larry D.?  If he is a pillar of success then I'll take my chances with the bottom-dredging rejects.

Ditto that but please dont give LD the honor of being called a "man." He is not a man, he is a bully and a pervert to young girls.  He took advantage of the pretty girls at Hyde School under the guize of being Dean of students.  He is no man, he is a coward.

As far as the poster from 1973, please do not feel as though you failed at Hyde.  Hyde failed you.  Hyde did not hold you back for the reasons they stated.  If that were the case there would be many kids who should not have graduated.  There was one kid in our graduating class who broke ethics constantly and 5 years after graduating he is still sitting around drinking beer and ocassionally working.  Lots of losers graduated with me who shouldn't have and most were held back at least a year.  Our belief always was that they wanted the families to crawl back and throw more money into Hyde.  There is someone on the board now whose son is still doing nothing after graduating 5 years ago.  Neither one of these kids I speak of ended up going to college but of course Hyde's website tells of an outstanding amount of kids who go on to a four year institution.

Another graduate just came to my mind.  He graduated after screwing an underage girl a few weeks before.  So please Mr 1973 get over your feelings and understand that Hyde has much worse issues than you do.  Do you want to be a part of a cult?  Thank your lucky stars that you are not submissive to their crap!

[Anonymous]

Are you talking about that sorry excuse for a man, Larry D.?  If he is a pillar of success then I'll take my chances with the bottom-dredging rejects.

Ditto that but please dont give LD the honor of being called a "man." He is not a man, he is a bully and a pervert to young girls.  He took advantage of the pretty girls at Hyde School under the guize of being Dean of students.  He is no man, he is a coward.

As far as the poster from 1973, please do not feel as though you failed at Hyde.  Hyde failed you.  Hyde did not hold you back for the reasons they stated.  If that were the case there would be many kids who should not have graduated.  There was one kid in our graduating class who broke ethics constantly and 5 years after graduating he is still sitting around drinking beer and ocassionally working.  Lots of losers graduated with me who shouldn't have and most were held back at least a year.  Our belief always was that they wanted the families to crawl back and throw more money into Hyde.  There is someone on the board now whose son is still doing nothing after graduating 5 years ago.  Neither one of these kids I speak of ended up going to college but of course Hyde's website tells of an outstanding amount of kids who go on to a four year institution.

Another graduate just came to my mind.  He graduated after screwing an underage girl a few weeks before.  So please Mr 1973 get over your feelings and understand that Hyde has much worse issues than you do.  Do you want to be a part of a cult?  Thank your lucky stars that you are not submissive to their crap!

I can tell from reading this website's posts that there is a critical mass of people who have had dreadful Hyde experiences.  I feel so intensely angry that Hyde has been able to get away with this abuse for decades.  I am now convinced that it is absolutely essential for the general public to know about the abuses at Hyde.  I've looked into the options.  I've talked to a number of Hyde critics and have learned about several places where people can share their Hyde experiences:

1.  write to the New England Association of Schools and Colleges.  That's the organization that accredits Hyde.  I've heard that NEASC has already received complaints about Hyde and has investigated them:: http://www.neasc.org/cis/cis.htm   and http://www.neasc.org/cis/complaints.PDF

2.  write letters to the editor at www.strugglingteens.com -- they will publish them if the letter is fair and responsible: http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... index.html

3.  share your concerns with the International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC).  There are letters posted there about Hyde: http://www.isaccorp.org/ and http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsam.asp#hyde

4.  share your concerns with Gary at scribeny@aol.com -- he has posted several message here stating that he's gathering Hyde stories for dissemination.  He seems eager to write about people's Hyde experiences, from every angle.

There is only one way to have a major impact on Hyde -- TELL YOUR STORY.  Hyde proponents have the right to promote the school and they do that aggressively.  Hyde critics have just as much right to critique the school.  I am absolutely positive that this information is getting to people who consider sending their child to Hyde and many of them change their mind and look elsewhere.  If you don't communicate your story in these different places, these parents won't find out how many people had miserable Hyde experiences.

This "movement" is gaining steam . . .

[Anonymous]

Are you talking about that sorry excuse for a man, Larry D.?  If he is a pillar of success then I'll take my chances with the bottom-dredging rejects.

Ditto that but please dont give LD the honor of being called a "man." He is not a man, he is a bully and a pervert to young girls.  He took advantage of the pretty girls at Hyde School under the guize of being Dean of students.  He is no man, he is a coward.

As far as the poster from 1973, please do not feel as though you failed at Hyde.  Hyde failed you.  Hyde did not hold you back for the reasons they stated.  If that were the case there would be many kids who should not have graduated.  There was one kid in our graduating class who broke ethics constantly and 5 years after graduating he is still sitting around drinking beer and ocassionally working.  Lots of losers graduated with me who shouldn't have and most were held back at least a year.  Our belief always was that they wanted the families to crawl back and throw more money into Hyde.  There is someone on the board now whose son is still doing nothing after graduating 5 years ago.  Neither one of these kids I speak of ended up going to college but of course Hyde's website tells of an outstanding amount of kids who go on to a four year institution.

Another graduate just came to my mind.  He graduated after screwing an underage girl a few weeks before.  So please Mr 1973 get over your feelings and understand that Hyde has much worse issues than you do.  Do you want to be a part of a cult?  Thank your lucky stars that you are not submissive to their crap!

I can tell from reading this website's posts that there is a critical mass of people who have had dreadful Hyde experiences.  I feel so intensely angry that Hyde has been able to get away with this abuse for decades.  I am now convinced that it is absolutely essential for the general public to know about the abuses at Hyde.  I've looked into the options.  I've talked to a number of Hyde critics and have learned about several places where people can share their Hyde experiences:

1.  write to the New England Association of Schools and Colleges.  That's the organization that accredits Hyde.  I've heard that NEASC has already received complaints about Hyde and has investigated them:: http://www.neasc.org/cis/cis.htm   and http://www.neasc.org/cis/complaints.PDF

2.  write letters to the editor at www.strugglingteens.com -- they will publish them if the letter is fair and responsible: http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... index.html

3.  share your concerns with the International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC).  There are letters posted there about Hyde: http://www.isaccorp.org/ and http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsam.asp#hyde

4.  share your concerns with Gary at scribeny@aol.com -- he has posted several message here stating that he's gathering Hyde stories for dissemination.  He seems eager to write about people's Hyde experiences, from every angle.

There is only one way to have a major impact on Hyde -- TELL YOUR STORY.  Hyde proponents have the right to promote the school and they do that aggressively.  Hyde critics have just as much right to critique the school.  I am absolutely positive that this information is getting to people who consider sending their child to Hyde and many of them change their mind and look elsewhere.  If you don't communicate your story in these different places, these parents won't find out how many people had miserable Hyde experiences.

This "movement" is gaining steam . . .

Is there anyone out there who knows how to start a "Hyde website?"  I believe this will be the most productive way to get the word out.  It still is hard to find this website when googling Hyde. Somebody must be tech savy out there?

[Anonymous]

I believe there was one not too long ago but it got shut down.  If you go back a couple of pages in the threads (from the Hyde Index), you might be able to find some more info or reference to that.

I, myself, have some mixed feelings about a separate site.  It feels safer here (I don't worry so much about it being shut down, or moderated), and I often find myself heading over to some of the other forums on this site for reference or insight.

Just my predilection, of course...

[Anonymous]

Are you talking about that sorry excuse for a man, Larry D.?  If he is a pillar of success then I'll take my chances with the bottom-dredging rejects.

  Yes.  In the world of manufacturing we call them "escapes"  Parts that test good but don't function in the field.  There were a couple of notable escapes from my era.

If it stinks like SHIT, then F A H - L U S H H it!!!