Confrontation Thread: IE Karen In Dallas Apology PMs

[Anonymous]

Hee Hee.. Ho Ho.. Oh my...  :rofl:

who's gunna own up to being a karen-lubber? I wouldnt if I were em!  

[Anonymous]

:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

[Anonymous]

through an anonymous leak I obtained one of the PMs in question: breaking news people!

Karen,
I am so sorry for the behaviour of TSW. He means well, he really does. The problem is that he is an alcoholic. He is out of the country and this prevents an intervention. Please stay around and aprove of me. I love you karen.
Fornitscator


What a sad day for fornits.  ::noway::

[Nihilanthic]

I'm not sure what kind of Karen "love" anyone would want to admit to here on fornits  :rofl:

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure what kind of Karen "love" anyone would want to admit to here on fornits  :rofl:

I admit to wanting to see her ass whipped HARD with a terse switch!  

It would be beautiful!  8-)

[egypt has pyramids]

I think I will get a hamster and name it Karen. This way I can put him in a cage with a running track. Watch that little fucker run in a circle all god damn day. Every now and then hoist a beer and say, "To those who are about to die I salute you!" and then set the fucker on fire with lighter fluid and watch him run around my living room floor.

BE sure to videotape that shit and post it up on Youtube. Piss of some PETA freaks while your at it.. two birds, one stone.

[egypt has pyramids]

Yeah- thanks for the chance.
You think you OWNED me? Perhaps you should read the 12 PMs I received (most from regular fornits posters) apologizing for your behavior and saying how disgusted they were with your attitude and behavior. Even saying that you were clearly drunk when you posted.
If you read my posts instead of simply trying to humiliate me, you would have noticed that I was changing my mind about Carlbook as I learned more about the workshops and the therapy groups.
Does insulting me and my family help your cause? I took a chance by trying to share information on the thread, and all you did was attack me and try to bring the attention back to yourself. I was told that is what it is all about with you- making sure you are the center of attention.
I stopped posting on the thread because your posts were hurtful and degrading. I really have no need to subject myself to that.
My purpose isn't to promote Carlbrook and 2N. Right now I am trying to convince someone to take their kid out of HLA. I think from what I have learned, the Carlbrook program has a strong potential for abuse- emotionally, not physically. I have not yet seen anything to show me 2N uses the same techniques or is anything like that. My son, who spent a total of 16 weeks at sN, tells me it is not at all the same. My mind is open, but I have talked to a lot more people with 2N experience than you have, and so far I think it is a good program.
Keep thinking you are amusing everyone and keep thinking you "owned" me. Not quite.
Karen
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Cant forget this baby...  

[egypt has pyramids]

My mind is open, but I have talked to a lot more people with 2N experience than you have, and so far I think it is a good program.

We have our another Sou Chef right here!

Sue is to WWASP as Karen is to Carlbrook.

GIve em credibility by bashing one program, and swoop in with another. SLick, very click! (common sales tactic though)

[Anonymous]

Wow, and people say I'm mean. (I'm not used to not being the meanest. I feel emasculated. I'll have to redouble my efforts at being nasty.)

C'mon Psy, you knew this was gonna happen. Program parents coming to Fornits will get mauled. It's like death and taxes.

[Anonymous]

I see a poem starting to form:

Forget Karen
her ass
hit bricks.

Saggy tits
posting on
Fornits.

Drink one
drink many
send a kid away.

Smell of fish
just wont
go away.

[Anonymous]

So Karen whoa re these forints regulars that are supposeduly hating on TSW and lubbin what you have to say? I think she is full of shit to be honest. I bet she got like 1 pm and it didnt even say that!!

[psy]

Wow, and people say I'm mean. (I'm not used to not being the meanest. I feel emasculated. I'll have to redouble my efforts at being nasty.)

C'mon Psy, you knew this was gonna happen. Program parents coming to Fornits will get mauled. It's like death and taxes.

This is how i thought it was going to play out, but I was willing to take the chance, given that some positive dialogue might come out of it.

It's the principle of the thing....

If you think you've made an ass out of Karen with your posts...  you need to think more like a jury...

Who do you think came out of this looking like the more mature one?  The more sane one?  It depends on your perspective i suppose...

However, for once, Karen did behave herself on Fornits...  And she got largely blasted for it.  Regardless of her past, which she apologized for both in private and in public, what message is this sending to other program parents who might consider coming to fornits for our side of the story?  What do you think she is going to say now about fornits?  On ST?  Where the program parents are...  

Instead of alienating people we should be building alliances, turning heads, changing minds...  Convincing parents to yoink their kids out...  What good has this done?

Provide a hostile atmosphere and you will drive the parents right into Lon Woodbury's grateful arms.  He should cut some people here a check.

[Anonymous]

what message is this sending to other program parents who might consider coming to fornits for our side of the story?

Don't try and sell your wilderness programs on fornits and if you do expect to get shit!!! This should be obvious! Just like many WWASPS kids fell for Sou's BS you are falling for Karens.

[psy]

So Karen whoa re these forints regulars that are supposeduly hating on TSW and lubbin what you have to say? I think she is full of shit to be honest. I bet she got like 1 pm and it didnt even say that!!

She actually got quite a few (and i heard this not from her, but from actual people who PMed her).  No i will not post them here.

again... what matters in terms of tempting program parents into coming to Fornits is not Karen's past (which the don't know), but the perception of her treatment here.  Remember, the public at large have short memories and rarely research things past the surface.  You want to show program parents the truth?  You just scared off poor-little-old-Karen, who now has even more ammo with which to say "the folks on fornits hate parents... stay away"...

There is an unfortunate aspect of politics to everything in this world.  Who won the publicity battle here?

There are more parents on fornits than you think, but a lot of them are too afraid to post.  Yes parents are fragile. They haven't been conditioned to ignore constant attacks a-la "raps".

Yes some of these parents are fucked up, and if you don't want the kids to wind up that way you have to (guess what) talk to fucked up parents, convincing them not to make a terrible decision.

[psy]

what message is this sending to other program parents who might consider coming to fornits for our side of the story?

Don't try and sell your wilderness programs on fornits and if you do expect to get shit!!! This should be obvious! Just like many WWASPS kids fell for Sou's BS you are falling for Karens.

If i remember correctly, i had to ask which Wilderness program her kid went to.

If i remember correctly, the topic of the thread was Carlbrook but people kept changing the subject to 2N.

I was personally fooled by Sue, so i have no love for her, however Karen is a different situation.

What if her kid did improve / wasn't harmed in wilderness?  Her kid was an athelete and could probably deal with a lot more physical punishment than the staff themselves.  I believe her kid told her he wasn't harmed by wilderness (why wouldn't he, he told her he hated CB)...  What if she's giving her honest opinion?  I haven't recieved any information tying her to the wilderness program financially, and I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt.