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« on: January 04, 2007, 12:48:58 PM »
I have avoided this site as so many of the posts are mean-spirited and sensational, preying upon parents' fears.  I suggest that anyone who is interested in the truth and balanced views visit strugglingteens.com.

My son has been at HLA since February 2006.  We have been touched by the caring and nurturing he has received and pleased by the overall program.  No program for troubled teens will be without problems, as it is the nature of such work.  Still, the few problems we have encountered have been well-addressed and did not cause a moment of concern for the health and safety of our son.

Our son, as well as most of the students at HLA, is receiving excellent counseling and a good education.  I would not hesitate to recommend it to any parent whose child fits the requirements.  If you are a parent of a troubled teen, do not read from this site or any other like it.  Talk to other parents, seek out an educational consultant.

This school has lost admissions because of a lawsuit filed in 2006.  The parents involved let their child graduate before filing suit.  That alone should make one question the veracity and motives behind the suit.  It will do nothing but hurt the many students who hope to graduate from HLA and those who desperately need what HLA has to offer.  This is a travesty.

I am a lawyer, my husband is a lawyer, and I am also a nurse.  We would be quick to intervene if we saw anything that would cause us to question the effectiveness of this program or the safety of our son.  There is nothing that has caused us concern as much as the thought that this school will be damaged by selfish, mean-spirited people who have nothing to lose by their lies.  Our son, after his initial attempts to cause us to bring him home, has reported nothing that comes close to abuse or even apathy.  He likes his counselors.  He likes most of his teachers.  He is doing better academically than we hoped.

Contact HLA for a list of parents who will speak to you truthfully about this school.  Vicki Allen
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2007, 01:03:56 PM »
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I have avoided this site as so many of the posts are factually accurate, countering HLA propaganda designed to prey upon parents' fears.  I suggest that anyone who is interested in nothing but complete bullshit and laughably ill-constructed lies visit strugglingteens.com.

My son has been at HLA since February 2006. He has been touched by the  violation and anal rape he has received, pleasing Len Buccellato quite a bit. No program for troubled teens will be without problems, as the futility of the approach is inherent in its nature. The few problems we have acknowledged have been ignored, but since we really don't give a wan fuck about the health and safety of our son, we left him there anyway.

Our son, as well as most of the students at HLA, is receiving it up the poop chute. I would not hesitate to recommend it to any parent whose child fits the requirements, as I'm getting paid for referrals. If you are a parent of a troubled teen, do not read from this site, close your ears and go la la la, the truth means nothing to you! Talk to other parents (but not the ones filing suit against this shithole!), seek out an educational consultant even though they're making money from your kid getting hurt.

This school has lost admissions because of a lawsuit filed in 2006, and OMG that was LAST YEAR now! The parents involved let their child graduate before getting the party started. That alone should make one realize the horror they must have felt when their kid came home full of hate and rage. (Sur-priiise!) It will do nothing but help the many students who hope to escape from HLA, as no one needs what HLA has to offer. This is a travesty, because I'm not being validated anymore! Waaaaahhhh...

I am a liar, my husband is a liar, and I am also a child abuser. We wouldn't intervene if we saw our kid being raped with a jackhammer.  There is nothing that has caused us concern as much as the thought that this school will be damaged by Organized Malcontents who have nothing to lose by telling the truth. Our son, after his initial attempts to cause us to bring him home, has ceased talking to us. But since he's not on this forum and never will be, we can lie all we like and say that he's doing great, even though he's probably going to cut our throats out backwards Al-Qaeda style.

Contact HLA for a list of parents who will tell you the comforting lies you want to hear. Vicki Allen
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 01:05:04 PM »
Wow.  Just WOW.  Lady, your head is stuffed so far up your ass that you can't even see daylight.

Almost everything you said in your post is an utter prevarication.  I guess, coming from a lawyer, it's your nature to lie.

For any parents reading, just read the threads and skip the flame wars.  This lady obviously doesn't have access to any inside information at HLA, or she would realize that nearly every single accusation regarding HLA has been vetted and verified by current and former staff.

Not that this matters much anyway.  HLA will be gone as we know it very, very soon.

Lawyer Lady, rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic wouldn't have stopped it from sinking, now would it?  Your spin is pathetc.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 01:09:20 PM »
BTW, Lawyer Lady, you lied about the parents who filed suit as well.  They PULLED their kids and were denied a refund of prepaid tuition, as were many others.

I'd love to see HLA lawyer up with dolt like you.  It'd be as sure a shot to win as anyone could hope for.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2007, 01:22:46 PM »
sounds like she's looking to hook up with quack and quack cause she sure sounds like one.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2007, 03:17:28 PM »
I am glad to hear that you are having a positive experience at HLA.  Many families have been helped by what HLA has to offer.  One statement that you wrote stands out, however:

"I would not hesitate to recommend it to any parent whose child fits the requirements."

Part of what the law suit suggests is that HLA has accepted children who do not fit the requirements, but are rather much worse off than HLA is equipped to manage.   HLA has the potential to be a great place.  Unfortunately, when Len Buccellato chooses to allow inappropriate children into the school, it can also be a very dangerous place.  I don't doubt that you are having a good experience, but please don't dismiss what the people on this site are saying just because some of them make outrageous statements at times.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2007, 03:36:29 PM »
Lady if your son has truly benefitted from his time at HLA, then I would simply say I am happy for both him and you. That being said however understand you haven't a clue as to what the experience was like for the rest of us.Therefore you are entirely unqualified to state that we are somehow lying about our testimony regarding the facts concerning hla. Whatsmore you have no right to do so. It's obvious you never actually read the lawsuit, nor are you interested in learning any facts concerning the case. If you were you would have bothered to ask questions rather than simply making stupid accusations and baseless concluscions.

On top of all that I have serious doubts about you even being a parent of a current hla student. If in the event you are you're an awful parent. No caring parent would simply dismiss the very real issues concerning hla and not bother to ask the questions that matter.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2007, 04:01:02 PM »
Lady, TJ is miserable! You gotta pull him. He did nothing wrong...
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 07:48:46 PM »
OMG. TJ asked me to cheek my meds all the time. He would brag about snorting meds with his friends in Dorm B. He was constantly talking about cravings for pot and X. And he was probably the one of the most well known klepto's in Dorm B. Go look at his closet right now.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 08:29:30 PM »
correction...one graduated and one was pulled...
that is the truth...from someone who knows!
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2007, 08:51:17 PM »
So Ms. Vicki is a nurse AND a lawyer. Hmm... HLA needs both of those right now...  :rofl:

But, then looks like she's not practicing.

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2007, 09:34:01 PM »
To VLA and other parents who have posted here, I, too have a child at HLA.  Lance Henson is my child's counselor in PG79.  The only reason I am not posting my real name, address, and telephone number is not because I want to hide my identity but to protect the identity of my child.  My email address in my profile will tell you who I am.  I didn't go to MSN or Yahoo to make one up for you, so I ask that you respect my child's privacy.

I have refrained from posting previously because I have seen how those who support HLA are treated on this board.  I read the board because it contains information that concerns me, and every legitimate concern raised I have brought to the attention of HLA and have received an acceptable response.  Some of the issues raised do not bother me.

My child has done well in the HLA program.  According to her, the kids there are aware of the lawsuit and do visit this website, and one in her peer group posted in support of his/her treatment there and was castigated for it and accused of being one of Len's sweeties.

Some of you say that you hope the lawsuit is successful in bringing down HLA because you want to stop it from hurting kids (your assertion, not mine).  Others of you want it brought down as a form of vengeance for your having been sent there.  

A lot of you say we're horrible, miserable parents for (a) having children with problems in the first place and (b) putting our children in HLA.  I read a post in another thread where a mother whose son has severe drug problems was advised to just bring him home, stay out of his business, love him unconditionally and without expectation, and he'll come around.  I suspect that mother, just like others of us, has already tried that.  

I don't know if any of you are old enough to have teenaged children yet, but if you are, or if you know somebody who is, the phenomenon of one troubled kid in the midst of siblings who don't have drug, self injury, or sexually acting out problems doesn't seem to be explained by either good or bad parenting.  Most of you will have teenaged children someday, and I wish you the very best.

In any event, I don't know if anybody can comprehend the love for a child until one becomes a parent.  You cannot comprehend not only the fear for his or her safety but also the despair that comes from knowing your child suffers from such intense pain and nothing you have been able to do has made it better.  Parents worry because we know our child has a safety net within the family but  know they're approaching the age when they'll face a world that doesn't know them from Adam, doesn't care, will not tolerate their behavior, and will kick them to the curb when they fall.  

We who love our children would  crawl (and some have) over broken glass for them.  We would give our last dime and our very lives for them.  I don't care than Len makes a profit, we all expect, or at least hope, to make money in exchange for our services.  I have no problem, and take no ethical issue, with paying bonuses and commissions to counselors and edcons.  

Those with the financial wherewithal send their children to places like HLA.  It's the last gift we can give them, but it's their choice what they do with it.  I concede that not every program can be everything to all children, but in the case of my child, HLA has been a Godsend.  

Lance Henson has demonstrated his dedication to my child and to this program, and has assured me he will continue to do so at considerable personal sacrifice, considering the paycuts and additional duties.  I really don't care what he and his wife look like (frankly, I think they look fine) and don't see what their appearance has to do with their competence.  There has been no problem that I've heard of associated with his being married to his co-counselor.

My child is looking forward to graduating the program and high school in May.  Her only worry right now is that this website's prognostications that HLA will close in February might be true.  She wants to finish what she started and graduate from high school with her friends, because that's what the kids at HLA have become to her - just like any other kid in high school.  Her Dad and I reassure her that HLA will not close (at least not in February) but that, regardless, she will finish her high school education and proceed to college, to which she is very much looking forward.

I doubt this will stop the diatribe to follow, but so we can cut through some of the intial speculation:

1)  I am not Len, Lance, or Melanie
2)  My IP address is not in Dahlonega
3)  I don't plan to commit suicide, regardless of how compelling the ensuing suggestion might be
4)  I don't care if you call me a troll (or anything else)
5)  If I never post here again, don't break out the champagne - you haven't run me off

I appreciate the comments of those on this site, and there are few, who have responded respectfully to the posts of others.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2007, 11:14:10 PM »
----- Original Message -----
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p= ... son#211056


-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 1:58 PM
To: 'PG79Counselors (Lance & Laura)'; 'CErickson@hiddenlakeacademy.com'; 'LBuccellato@hiddenlakeacademy.com'
Cc: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: HLA pg83 student who threatened to slit her roommates's throat

All, on Friday, April 14, after my call from Lance Hinson, XXXX?s peer group counselor, I enjoyed my weekly phone call from my daughter, XXXX.  I heard fear and anxiety in her voice, so I immediately asked her if something were wrong.

XXXX, who has voiced no complaint about HLA (other than being there, food, toilets stopped up, etc.) and has never asked or bargained for another chance at home, told me that a girl from pg83 was moved into her room.  Problem:  the girl had threatened to slit the throat of her prior roommate.  XXXX told me she is afraid of this girl and actually slept the prior night on the floor of her suitemates so as not to have to share a room with this girl.

I told XXXX I would call the school and her Dad immediately and let them know of her fear.  I was pleased that my call to the answering service was returned immediately by Clay Erickson who acknowledged that the girl had made such a threat because the roommate threatened had ?narc?ed? on this girl.  Dr. Erickson explained that the consensus was that this girl would not follow through on such a threat.  Dr. Erickson said he would discuss it immediately with staff and get back with me.

He called me back shortly thereafter to inform me that XXXX was being moved to another room, a private one on the first floor, and that XXXX is not happy about it.

While I was pleased that action was taken quickly, I disagree with the action taken.  When any of us thinks about the worst possible thing that could happen to us, I think most of us would agree that being murdered would top the list.  As parents, the worst possible thing to happen would be to have one of our children murdered.  Having our children living in terror would be pretty high on the list.

Expressing a threat to kill is a serious matter demanding serious consequences; and, in my opinion, should not be dismissed.  The children at HLA, so far as I?m aware, pose a one to one threat only to themselves individually, but not to the others.  

What I disagree with:

1) The girl issuing the threat being allowed to remain at HLA.  It appears her only consequence was being moved to another room; yet all children at HLA know of this serious threat, and they see that the consequence was minor.  Should the girls at HLA all have to live in fear of this girl, especially now that they know she can threaten at will, especially if anybody narcs on her again?

2) XXXX being moved from her room.  XXXX has been taught by this resolution that it?s not good to express her feelings, and the lesson was driven home by removing her from an environment where she was comfortable and happy.  She had a community and friends where she lived at HLA, and because she spoke up, out of fear, she has been deprived of that.  This lesson cannot be lost on this other girl, either, for now all the other girls know that, regardless of any fear they might have of her, they?d better not speak up for fear of being exiled from their home base.

It has only been just before XXXX?s spring break that XXXX was actually starting to take the risk to open up.  She has serious trust issues.  Teaching her that speaking up will get her punished, combined with exercises such as the one last week designed to get students to narc on each other, sends an irreconcilably confusing message.

I respectfully ask that XXXX be moved back into her room, WITHOUT the girl who issued the threat.  I also ask that the girl who issued the threat be removed from HLA for the safety of ALL of the children there.  Not only is her presence a threat to the others, but it exposes HLA to serious liability issues should this girl follow through on her threat.

I look forward to your response.

XXXXXXXXXX
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2007, 11:16:48 PM »
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Don't you mean dUmmerdog?  :rofl:
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2007, 11:32:37 PM »
Quote from: ""dommerdog""
I read a post in another thread where a mother whose son has severe drug problems was advised to just bring him home, stay out of his business, love him unconditionally and without expectation, and he'll come around.


Where was that?  I'd like to see what was actually written.  You're interpretation of things doesn't appear to be grounded in reality.
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