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« on: January 01, 2007, 04:44:37 PM »
http://www.aspiro-inc.com/

Anybody heard of this program?
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2007, 04:50:25 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2007, 04:57:59 PM »
Seems many of the staff and founders have a background in the industry.  Just what Utah needs, another wilderness program.

http://www.aspiro-inc.com/Administration_Staff.htm
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2007, 05:05:55 PM »
Deb and I were discussing this one on the Carlbrook thread. It looks like they're desperately trying not to be evil...

Quote from: ""Retarded Programmie Bullshit""
When appropriate as determined by your child's treatment team, family conference calls can be used to begin the family healing process.


...but not really succeeding.
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2007, 07:25:58 PM »
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penalty""
Deb and I were discussing this one on the Carlbrook thread. It looks like they're desperately trying not to be evil...

Quote from: ""Retarded Programmie Bullshit""
When appropriate as determined by your child's treatment team, family conference calls can be used to begin the family healing process.

...but not really succeeding.


Dunno. The devil is in the details. They're not promising a cure-all, just soft to moderate issues.

I'd have to hear from someone who had been there about when the first time was that they saw their parents, whether they were free to say what they wanted, whether their parents were told to ignore their "lies and manipulation," whether the kid was escorted or knew in advance he was going.

What I've seen of "treatment teams" in normal, non-program treatment is that they include the parents as part of the team---I've never gone up against a treatment team firmly and not gotten my way.  I pick my battles---I only become a ball-buster on the serious issues where I strongly disagree with their plan for handling something.

So what do they mean when they say treatment team? In practice, how does it work out---does the kid see his parents a lot? Does the kid hear from his parents and communicate uncensored a lot?

They don't use the level system. It looks like they've worked hard to get licensed staff.

So what happens if a kid doesn't want to participate in a certain activity, like "primitive living"? Does he have to anyway?

I wouldn't send my kid there, but I'd sure want to hear specific details about how they behave in practice before making a knee jerk decision.

This one is doing a better job of not sounding freaky, weird and cultish than the Programs we all know and hate.

I'm very, very hesitant to say this, but maybe they're not abusive?

I wouldn't want my kid to be the guinea pig for them developing a track record, but I'll be interested to see what kind of track record they build up.

Julie
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2007, 07:37:36 PM »
By the way, we know someone who just got out of the hospital, and the mental hospital had to confine the people the kid could communicate with to a list whether they wanted to or not because of HIPPA (sp?) regulations.

Said kid was only in for a few days, until not immediately dangerous to self, then discharged.

I am willing to accept the possibility that those folks have to confine itself to a list of correspondents for legal reasons. If so, worth changing the law---or making the law clearer about allowing that communication.

Again, the devil is always in the details.

Julie
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2007, 07:40:07 PM »
You must be kidding. These people aren't bound by HIPPA or anything else. They barely follow the regulations that pertain directly to them; you think they even know what HIPPA is?
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2007, 08:28:58 PM »
A couple of intersting details about ASPIRO

Brian Church  formerly worked for SUWS for 5 years; he also worked for ASPEN and for Hidden Lake Academy.

Josh Watson just resigned his position as Therapist and Admisssions Officer at Hidden Lake Academy in October 2006.

Can read about it on Hidden Lake Academy, on the
"Nichole Fuglsang" thread.

Yea, it is all "in the details..........."

Sort of strange that the BIO on most of the staff only states that SO-AND-SO previously worked at "a well-known therapeutic boarding school."   Wonder WHY the names of these boarding schools aren't listed, huh??????
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2007, 08:36:45 PM »
Fucking musical chairs. :roll:  :roll:  ::puke::
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2007, 08:41:30 PM »
I was thinking more along the line of scattering cockroaches... but ok.
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2007, 09:14:02 PM »
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I was thinking more along the line of scattering cockroaches... but ok.


Nah, you're right.  Scattering cockroaches is better.
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2007, 06:03:04 AM »
Anyplace where a youngster can be imprisoned without a trial, or a hearing where a qualfied psychiatrist certifies,- and faces legal repercussions if he is negligent in his decision,- that the youth is so mentally ill that he is an immediate danger to himself or others, and has no legal means or challenging this wrong IS ABUSIVE.

Anyplace where a youngster can be imprisoned without these conditions met will subject the individual to further abuse. It is inevitable. Absolute power corrupts absolutely
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2007, 06:14:41 AM »
Anything which has a "young adult" component would worry me unless if it was bonafide drug rehab with doctors.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2007, 11:14:13 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""try another castle""
I was thinking more along the line of scattering cockroaches... but ok.

Nah, you're right.  Scattering cockroaches is better.


That old game "Mojo" that came out in the 90s where someone cursed you and made you into a cockroach...

Ah, what a befitting reincarnation for those fucks. No wonder there are so many cockroaches, huh?
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2007, 08:43:12 AM »
I want to know how a program can fix ADHD/ADD - my son suffers, nothing can 'fix' it
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