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Offline Covergaard

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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2007, 03:01:46 PM »
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Whats so funny is that I thought that was a real survivors account until they get up to the part about the corset.I was thinking oh that poor girl- how can they do this to us

..(theres no way Jay Kay would spend the money necessary to buy a high quality corset like that)

though he did say( I paraphase)
"sex between staff and the girls issnt necessarily abuse ....these arent your collegiate prep school types


About sex between staff and the detainees. I have mailed for sometime with a former student from Aspen Ranch (for yet another page on wikipedia). She has been at Aspen Achievement Academy, Turnabout Ranch and Aspen Ranch. She liked the first two of them, but claims that there is sex between staff and detainees at Aspen Ranch.

Of course I can not publish the claim on wikipedia because it was a private mail, but when a person actually like AAA (from where the takedown video-clip came from "Brat Camp UK series 3") and Turnabout Ranch I believe her.
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Offline Nihilanthic

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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2007, 05:04:48 PM »
Didn't TAR let someone die from a SPIDER BITE?
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2007, 06:48:46 AM »
It happened on Thayer Learning Center.
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Roberto Reyes, age 15, died at Thayer Learning Center in Missouri.

Roberto was covered with "unexplained" bruises, but the coroner attributed his death to a spider bite.
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from: http://www.isaccorp.org/deaths.asp

Here is a site about those story links above.

http://geocities.com/meditationinlet
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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2007, 12:31:11 PM »
it wasnt a spider bite anymore than Andersons death in Florida was sickle cell anemia

WHat he dies of is something broought on by overexercize, dehydration, etc.

You know how they warn you abour over exercizing when you start intense training programs?
(body image problems)
Thats what it is. They worked that boy to death

only question is...what is the connection between the authorites and TLC that encourage this coroner to engage in, essentially, a cover up-?
Why do these coronoers attribute sickle cell anemia, or the ever popular "enlarged heart" cause death endlessly attributed to kids who die from being "restrained" or overworked on WPs, sometimes they apply this diagnoses to 8 kids in a row from the same facility! (VQ)
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« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2007, 01:34:36 PM »
BTW...

I actually bothered to read Banished, right?

This is just a BDSM'd (and non-con) version of what I've heard about Tranquility Bay.

To a "t".

Even the fucking terminology.

This is basically a parody of tranquility bay... the last paragraphs say it all:

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In the start I had difficulties bonding with people, but Paula
visited us and gave me therapy. I am also in touch with Susan.

Some have asked me if I hold a grudge against my parents for
sending me there. I will come to that. You have all read about
the children returning home from a program saying that it had
saved their lives. I used to think so in the start, but Paula?s
therapy made me overcome it. Today I think that would have done
as good as I did without the stay in the program. There is just
one thing I couldn?t have done as good without the program. I
control Brian. It turns him on to be harnessed and cuffed by me.

Unfortunately my parents got hurt in a traffic accident, so I
have to send them to a nursing room. Where did I put the
brochure? Oh, here it is ?Abu Ghraib nursing home? ? seems like a
nice place.

END
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2007, 01:38:08 PM »
Check the names - Paula and Susan. Know anyone by those names?

Parody indeed.
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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2007, 01:38:56 PM »
Check the parent/child seminar shit.

 :rofl:

Wow, what a way to protest WWASPS... I think we do need to fire up that fake program afterall  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2007, 01:43:54 PM »
Not all of us are laughing at this.  :flame:
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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2007, 01:47:24 PM »
PAULA AND SUE?!?!?! HELLLOOOOOooooooooooo....

This is rather clearly a parody and a good one at that.

I think this was done by someone who actually went through this shit trying to find their own way to work through it...

At any rate, this definitely proves at least one point I've been trying to make  :lol:

I wonder how lon foolsbury is going to react to this shit? Hell... imagine if a staffer made this!  :rofl:

But yeah, this is the same M.O. these programs use, except its very obviously a case of domination and control and "PAIN = GAIN" without any medical/psychological/emotional growth quackery to obfuscate it.

I gotta find the author.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2007, 02:00:07 PM »
How many Danes are there with an interest in Tranquility Bay?

How many of them have that particular writing style, with that particular lack of English writing skills?

C'mon out, Covergaard. I've hunted people down and ruined their careers for writing this sort of thing before, but since you were obviously trying to be parodic and make a point I'll give you a pass.

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I was in a place in Tennessee which turned out to be run by bondage fetishes?. The counsellors had their bizarre interest published on their private myspace pages

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You will be surprised to learn how very little dissimilarity there are between torture in war zone and what is going on in the so-called Therapeutic Boarding School like this place.
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« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2007, 02:02:33 PM »
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I'll give you a pass.


Fuckin' killjoy.
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« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2007, 03:09:26 PM »
I dont think its a intentional satire. But a very good unintentional satire.

The guy who wrote it clearly speaks English as a second language. So I doubt hes a survivor. Also there was alot of forced blow jobs and masterbations that were ahem extrenuous to satire.The truth is If your into sexual slavery fantasy TB is going to provide alot of inspiration- thats about it.

But it is an actual UNINTENTIONAL crystalization of program existance. Clearly everything that goes on ther has nothing to do with therepy- just constant degredation, humiliation, abasement, violation, being a "slave" in every sense possible. More a slave, than an actual slave because real slaves arent deliberately broken down every moment of their waking hours in order to make them "love their master" - its enough that they obey, not submit deep into their mind.

What this porn captures so clearly is the process of eroding the mind.
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« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2007, 03:11:02 PM »
Two things that kill me?

1. a LOT of people would *love* that

2. this might be LESS abusive than what wwasps actually does.

 :o
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2007, 03:33:08 PM »
I know one girl who was in a lockdown facility where the group tried to coerce her into thinking any sexual activity she had before entering the program was "rape".  That's a tough one to get over....
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« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2007, 03:33:46 PM »
it IS less abusive in that if you read the story the actors are always respectful of eachother (except for tying them up and "molesting" them)

 Emotionally they are tender and sensitive. (like in consesual s&m) Even when the kid is told being raped is her fault its not like it is in program-ie you pathetic discusting, repulsive etc...no one has ever liked you, you are a complete failure you will always be a complete failure you are insane and are incabable of anything by 20 different people. She is told she is responsible for being raped in a soft "paternalistic" supportive fashion. Everyone has sympathy for eachother ie. I know this is hard for you..etc.

Thats where the story gets it wrong
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