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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2006, 11:45:52 AM »
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Fortunately I have a life and am not going to spend my saturday crunching numbers for you.  Funny how you don't ask for stats when the bogus claims are made like in the beginning of this posting.  One need only look at the stellar subject/verb agreement to know where this thought or lack thereof comes from.  The statistics for violence in schools is online if you care to investigate with one click of google.  I work at HLA and the reason I know that this is crap is because i spend every day with these kids who are awesome, however misguided or angry or sad.  They are nothing like the poster suggested but I am sure you and most people realize that anyway...I also went to high school which I am sure most of you did as well and realize that access to drugs/sex was soooo much greater in the public/private system where the assumption is that the kid will not take advantage of their freedoms.  There were fights every day in my high school, hazing, cussing out teachers - thats high school dude, thats life man.  Lets be objective here, I get angry about this but I know you people are really smarter than this crap.  Move on...come to campus if you are really concerned, seriously.  Its great these days and I honestly appreciate the relevant postings that have kept everyone on their toes and helped people reevaluate how much misbehavior we will tolerate from some of the bad apples that permeate any environment. I don't mind people being critical but most of what I encounter here is so wildly outrageous that it makes me cringe


you really don't get it.  hla is closing.  have you noticed that the staff have left in droves and that hla is a shambles?  if not, you're the last blind one left.  i mean, how could you not notice your own pay cut and slahing of vacation/sick/bereavement leave?
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2006, 11:50:49 AM »
Robert,

What I am going to do is finish writing an email to my good friend who just chimed in on my icq account and then I am going to eat...thanks for asking... Objectivity would require you to suspend your conspiracy "tucking my head" conclusion and give me a chance to come back later...honestly it has been fun.
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2006, 11:55:26 AM »
HLA should have less violence, drugs, sex. That is a realistic expectation and what parents pay $6000/mo for. As they told parents in the workshop... "You can't watch your child 24/7, we can." And that is presumed to be accomplished with a high staff to student ratio.

The original poster stated that the AM/PM Deans were gone, only three RCs which was inadequate. It was also reported that the Nightwatch/ Security Staff are gone. If that is true, then the concern seems resonable, given HLAs demographic of kids. No matter the statistics in public school vs HLA, there is ample research to show that the aggregation of distressed kids presents a more volitile environment which requires more supervision, if one hopes to have even minimal 'success'.

It was also reported that the Admissions Dir (Nicole), the Director (Keith), and possibly the licensed therapist (Steve) were gone, or leaving RC. That is a legitimate concern, because RC can't function without those staff in place, no matter if they have 5 or 175 kids enrolled. It's a violation of state regs. Have those positions been filled?

How many students are there at HLA?
What is the current staff:student ratio?
Are the Dean positions filled?
Is there nightwatch or security?
Is RC functioning without an Adm Dir, Dir, Licensed Therapist?

Those are the questions posed, that I didn't hear a clear answer for.
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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2006, 11:56:08 AM »
It's fine. You can make time for excuses as to why you can't answer a couple of questions, dodge and perry, write emails, make long winded posts, but you cannot simply answer a few simple questions for lack of time.

Meanwhile you chide me for not being objective all while you claim we are "retarded losers who are full of shit."

Again typical staff behavior. I wonder if you'll find another place to work that encourages such nonsense.
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2006, 11:57:11 AM »
Deborah, please...he has to take a shower. Be objective.
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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2006, 12:04:18 PM »
steve was far from being a licensed therapist. he once got into a car accident and had to have a large portion of his brain taken out. he's practically retarted. the only thing is...he has a heart which is why he's ok.
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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2006, 12:07:45 PM »
Ha! Typical staff behavior, typical human behavior.  Yes I get angry...sorry if i hurt your feelings, somehow I doubt it.  What I should have said is that most of the conclusions made by many of the posters suggests a lack of rational or intelligent thought...this is a human frailty present in some more than others.  Seriously, I will come back and hopefully satisfy your thirst for knowledge...which begs the question if any of you can truly be satisfied. We all know the answer to that one...go outside its beautiful....seroiusly go outside....
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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2006, 12:12:16 PM »
Dodge, evade and repeat...always repeat.
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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2006, 12:20:26 PM »
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I don't know how an investigation is anything but that, an investigation.


As for the ORS inspection... have you read it?
It's my understanding that ORS found RC running "Interventions" for HLA and didn't possess any of the required documentation for those kids.
Thirty-three pages of violations. That's a record.
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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2006, 12:22:02 PM »
Wow, this is kinda addictive, posting and all.  I think your the one who keeps repeating and not acknowledging the fact that I need to be away from this to participiate in reality...but oddly I keep coming back...hmmmmmm.  I wonder if you guys are always here and always angry because its a habit. Hmmm, i think you guys are about as committed to helping kids as smokers are to helping themselves relax and unwind.
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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2006, 12:24:51 PM »
Yet you still cant answer a few simple questions. I guess you were right about some posters having a lack of intelligent thought. Namely you.
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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2006, 12:27:52 PM »
How many students are there at HLA?
What is the current staff:student ratio?
Are the Dean positions filled?
Is there nightwatch or security?
Is RC functioning without an Adm Dir, Dir, Licensed Therapist?
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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2006, 12:43:47 PM »
Quote from: ""Think People""
Intelligent people leave when their is uncertainty in an organization, which has been mostly fueled by the petition for a lawsuit (not actually a lawsuit). I would never blame anyone for making this decision...its a tough field and people get burnt out.  These kids are not easy to work with all the time as you might imagine.  Be objective...


Another question... define the difference between a "petition for a lawsuit" and a "lawsuit", as you understand it?
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« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2006, 12:48:57 PM »
It's threads like this that remind me why I come here.

I'm seriously awed. I haven't seen a denial of reality this thorough since the Iraqi Information Minister. Forget drinking the Kool-Aid, this guy eats it straight from the packet. I want to think it's a troll- always hard to tell on Fornits- but I doubt it, in this case. The complete ignoring of related questions (e.g. where the hell everyone went) is too extreme.

Why are you here? We have thread after thread after thread of why HLA and Ridge Creek are well and truly fucked. The lawsuit which you won't even admit is a lawsuit. Long-time staff leaving in droves. Key positions unfilled. I mean you don't even need to be involved in the issue to get a good idea of what's going on here.

"Hey, Person B, an institution is getting sued, people are leaving en masse and the positions aren't getting replaced, it's getting investigated by regulatory authorities.. what's happening to it?"

"Gee, Person A, I think it's shutting down!"

Any idiot with a shred of common sense can figure this one out. And yet, you get on here and try to reassure the readers of this forum (of all the places you could go!) that everything is just peachy keen and it's simply gotten smaller?

:lol:

Ya know, we need some more true believers over here. So when HLA finally goes under, mind becoming a zealot for our side? There's a shitload of other places we need to get shut down, and our Kool-Aid tastes better.
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« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2006, 12:59:45 PM »
I don't think it's a troll so much as it's just an employee who's really realee committed to the program and always has been.
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