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« on: December 14, 2006, 05:47:03 PM »
I need info on Ridge Creek. Looking into it for my 17 year-old son who is defiant towards us in regards to school and my new partner.
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2006, 05:49:17 PM »
I posted this at Strugglingteens.Com and I am posting it here because I am desperate to find the right solution for my son. He has been struggling in school and he refuses to accept my new partner despite his attemts to devolop a relationship with him. My son has struggles with confidence and he is in jeopardy of losing his eligibility to play sports due to his grades. I want to have him escorted to a program but my ex refuses to agree to do that.He doesnot want to help himself.He has been particulary against me since I divorced his father. I just do not know where to turn right now. I feel like I have tried every possible option.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2006, 05:50:24 PM »
That was me in the above post.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 05:58:56 PM »
Check the HLA forum for information on Ridge Creek.

I'm thinking troll, in which case, you score

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But if it isn't, DO NOT SEND YOUR SON THERE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. You're seriously considering hiring people to drag him out of your house at 4 AM? What the hell do you think is going to happen? If his life is bad now, what do you think he's going to think of you and himself when that's over with? He's going to walk out at the age of 18 and hate you- assuming Ridge Creek even lasts that long! (Again, check the HLA forum.)

Bottom line: Don't. Just fucking don't. Get your son in here and I'll talk to him about what his parents are about to do to him.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 06:09:52 PM »
Milk this person is NOT a troll I promise you, she is 100% the real thing.......Please be nice to her, she's having a difficult time, she is desperately looking at her choices, you can't just say to her DON'T, you have to explain why and what could happen

Lucif if you need to talk you can PM me, Milk's not as horrible as he likes to come across.....you'll get help on both why you should and shouldn't send your son away here.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2006, 07:09:40 PM »
All right. Although I still suspect "Lucif" just because of her name (hello, Lucifer!), I'm going to play along.

Look. There's a Moral Clarity thread on this forum that ought to explain this in very simple terms. You don't fucking do that to people, especially not your own kids. You just don't, for the same reason you don't lock them up in dog cages or burn them with hot grease. It isn't right, it isn't cool, and it isn't going to help. He's not going to come out of there happier, or nicer, or more obedient. If he does it's because they've messed with his mind in horrifying ways. Odds are, he won't. Odds are that he's going to respect your husband even less than he does now, and permanently hate you. Do you know how common that is? Do you have any idea how many Fornits members hate their parents because of that? We're not talking about 19 year olds, we're talking about 30 year olds. There's an unregistered user on this forum who goes by "SCL Survivor" who won't even let his parents so much as see their grandkids.

Think about what you're saying. "I'm going to hire people to come to my house at 3 AM to send my kid away to to be brainwashed in a place with numerous Georgia ORS (state authorities) complaints against it, because he doesn't like my new husband"? That's fucking insane. That is absolutely fucking nuts. He's 17 years old. All you have to do is wait and let him grow up. Encourage him to get a job and become independent. Age 17 is way too late for him to accept anyone else as his father. Don't ask him to do that, and whatever you do don't try to ram it down his throat with mind control.

If you are for real and you realize what's really going on here because of this website, please donate a tenth of the fantastic amounts of money you saved to Fornits.
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2006, 07:10:38 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
I posted this at Strugglingteens.Com and I am posting it here because I am desperate to find the right solution for my son. He has been struggling in school and he refuses to accept my new partner despite his attemts to devolop a relationship with him. My son has struggles with confidence and he is in jeopardy of losing his eligibility to play sports due to his grades. I want to have him escorted to a program but my ex refuses to agree to do that.He doesnot want to help himself.He has been particulary against me since I divorced his father. I just do not know where to turn right now. I feel like I have tried every possible option.


Look.  Your problems overall don't seem that serious.  Unless a child is an immidiate danger to himself or others (which only a psychologist can truly assess), he or she should NOT be institutionalized.  The troubled teen industry is not regulated.  Educational consultants will tell you what you want to hear because they often get compensation directly from the program for each child they refer in addition to what you pay them.  They have a vested interest in seeing your kids go to program, and programs have a vested interest in making sure they don't suceed.
I wouldn't put too much faith into program parent testimonials either.  Although i would recommend under no circumstances sending your kid to a program in this indusrtry, these warning signs from ISAC can help you reduce your risks if you decide to anyway.  Keep in mind a program can follow these guidelines and still be a bad program.

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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2006, 07:22:26 PM »
Ridge Creek sucks, plain and simple. If you send your kid off to ridge creek, you might as well just let him die. He will then go to HLA, because they will have brainwashed you to send him there. I have experience with both Ridge Creek, and HLA. First hand might I add. So, just don't do it.


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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2006, 07:39:04 PM »
Send him to live with his father before a program, if that's an option and he wants him.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2006, 09:45:30 PM »
No need to hit the panic button, Mom.   Adolescence is not a disease.  The kid doesn't like your new partner.  Maybe he's the smart one?
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2006, 11:11:51 PM »
My partner, despite how he is treated by my son, drives my son places,     he pays for stuff that would otherwise not be bought. He tries his best to get my son to see the light. But it just does not make a difference. My son is in desperate need of intervention. What kind of mother would I be if I just stood by and let him throw his life away?
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2006, 11:20:29 PM »
[troll5] and dropping.
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2006, 11:22:15 PM »
Sounds like your son's tennis and academic career are more important to you than they are to him.

If tennis and being recruited by a better college were important to him, he'd be making the grades necessary to achieve that goal.

Given that he's so angry with you, might flunking be the absolute best way to rebel against you, to cause you grief. If indeed he every really enjoyed tennis and wasn't pressured to perform.

Might try not not caring. Allow him to fail and repeat a grade if need be. Could you do that? It's a risk.

In the meantime it could be profoundly useful to let him vent his anger to you and to your partner seperately, if your partner's game. Surely you know under all that anger is a ton of sadness, disappointment, grief, fear, confusion. Removing the stimulus (partner) is not going to fix him. He still has to deal with reality in the 'real world'.... not a bubble.

And if you think that any wilderness or tbs is going to help him sort out his feelings about the divorce and your new partner... best think again. My son was at HLA against my wishes and everytime he started to talk about his stepmom he was corrected or punished for manipulating. How do you work on things you're forbidden to talk about? He hated her no less when he returned, he was simply conditioned through 24/7 punishment to keep his damn thoughts to himself, no one wants to hear the bitchin and moanin. When in fact, he had legitimate complaints. HLA didn't heal that relationship. They knew they couldn't. It's why they recommended he attend a traditional boarding school, post program. My son may never regain the emotional openess and security he possessed before they modified his behavior.

If you'd rather not hear his anger and would prefer he turn it in on himself, send him to a TBS. That's absolutely what they're best at.

Many parents who seek residential placements and BM, micro manage their kid's lives. I don't know if you are, but there are some red flags. You might benefit from some Functional Family Therapy for yourself to change the dynamics in your relationship with your son. Teens don't want to be manipulated by their parent's fears. If you want to be useful or effective  helping him determine what's important to him, you need to take a different tact, one not motivated by fear.

Your psych wasn't worth his salt. This could've/should've been resolved before your partner moved in. If there was an impasse, then perhaps the best thing for everyone would've been for you and your partner to delay gratification for two years until your son went to college. It's still an option. But, if he's angry for things other than you moving your partner in without his input, then his situation and the dynamics will not change until the anger is vented and the other feelings are addressed.

I would suggest that you research the methods used by any program and discuss them in detail with a professional before you make the decision to send him away. Find out enough about the day-to-day treatment as possible in order to determine if its ethical and evidence-based. Avoid industry white papers that claim programs use methods that are evidence based. If you desire more information I'm happy to compile a list for you to read.

And as others recommended, read the HLA forum. There's ample information there re HLA and Ridge Creek, specifically.

Can you elborate on this comment:
He tries his best to get my son to see the light.
Define "the light".
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2006, 11:31:31 PM »
I was simply saying my partner tries his best to show my son that he wants us to be a happy family, to get over the roadblocks we are currently facing.
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2006, 11:33:52 PM »
And sending him away to an abuse pit is really the best way to guarantee that.

[troll3] and still dropping. Come on. You could have at least pretended to read what everyone else posted, especially about the HLA forum.
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