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« on: December 07, 2006, 07:27:13 AM »
So one of the girls from the typing pool at work came back from lunch all teary eyed. When i asked what was up, she told me that she had just seen the most "amazing" episode of Oprah about some thing that they do in American high schools apparently bullies and nerds end up crying and hugging. if only we had this kind of thing here. i think she called it challenge day or something.......

http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200611/ ... _102.jhtml
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2006, 11:52:04 AM »
This isn't a Gilcrease seminar, nor could it ever be. They CANNOT use the same kind of tactics used in actual Gilcrease seminars in a public school setting, and they can't do anything against the cynical kids who don't buy into it (which is probably almost all of them).

The fact that the pool was only 64 students means that it was optional, and of course the kids with any real cynicism, smarts, etc didn't go. The ones who went are probably going to be back to their old selves within a week, and immune the next time the school tries something like this.

Kids around here, it'd just bounce off (and they'd never do something like that here anyway). At any of the high schools I went to, anything like this would have been laughed at. Anyone going along with it would have been ridiculed by the majority of the students until they, too, were laughing at it.

It's a hopeless mishmash of touchy-feely crap and pseudo-program garbage.
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2006, 12:28:16 PM »
See Dick and Jane weep
By Michelle Malkin
Friday, April 19, 2002

 Home schooling is looking more and more like the only sane educational option these days. The latest news of the weird in our public schools comes from Seattle. Last week, The Seattle Times reports, nearly 300 students from two middle schools were subjected to three long days of gut-spilling seminars aimed at "creating a safe school environment free of teasing and harassment." Principals and teachers traded in phonics for histrionics. Children learned the Oprahfied alphabet -- A for apologies, B for blame, and C for crying. Uncontrollable crying. Kleenex must have made a killing. Here's how the Times reporter described the workshops: "Sitting in small circles, their knees touching, students shared their own hurt and the pain they had inflicted on others. The tears flowed. In some groups, half the Washington Middle School students were crying at once. Applause followed, as the seventh- and eighth-graders stepped up to roving microphones and declared what they would do to mend broken relationships with their schoolmates. Two boys shook hands after one apologized for making fun of the other, and said he hoped to be more supportive. "A girl owned up to snubbing an old friend. 'I'm sorry that I've been very distant and that I've chosen other friends in school,' she said. 'I'm going to work on that, and I'm going to be a better friend.' The girls embraced." All bounds of privacy and self-restraint were erased as seminar "facilitators" encouraged their young guinea pigs to confess whether they -- or friends or family members -- had ever faced addiction problems, sadness over the death of loved ones, guilt over teasing others because of their weight, or thoughts of suicide. The public sniveling and sniffling ended with a "final exercise -- hugging as many people as possible in two minutes, to the theme from 'Rocky.'" One child, showing uncommon wisdom, dubbed the dolorous debacle a "psycho cry-fest." It's only the beginning: This bizarre emotional circus may be coming to an unacceptably dry-eyed classroom near you. Sponsored by a for-profit company called Resource Realizations in Scottsdale, Ariz., and run jointly by a nonprofit organization called Challenge Day, the chief operator of these weeping workshops says he smells a "a huge potential growth area" in the public schools. Seattle students received information packets from Resource Realizations founder David Gilcrease. "While Challenge Day is a critical first step, a one-day learning experience only goes so far," Gilcrease wrote in literature distributed to the children. "To create truly lasting transformation in their lives, most teens need more." For starters, there's the company's three-day, $295 Teen Discovery seminar. This leads to pricey summer camps, parent-child workshops and retreats full of self-esteem-boosting babblers who teach participants such vital skills as learning "to interrupt unconscious mental and emotional cycles which tend to sabotage results." According to the Resource Realizations Web site, public seminars are also being run in San Diego, San Francisco, Dallas, Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., and Chicago. Unbeknownst to Seattle school officials and parents who raved about the workshops, Resource Realizations has a dubious history. It is connected to a shady racket of companies peddling kiddie rehab programs with names such as "Tranquility Bay" and "Paradise Cove" that have been accused of brainwashing youngsters. Yet, the Seattle schools' superintendent, Joseph Olchefske, seemed only mildly perturbed that the company coaching Seattle schoolchildren to get all choked up -- and then foisting their promotional flyers on the overwrought kids -- is also a defendant in several lawsuits involving claims of emotional abuse at its behavior-therapy facilities. Where are all those anti-corporate lefties who protest the commercialization of the schools -- you know, the ones always complaining about cafeteria junk food being stuffed down the throats of helpless students? These mindless p.c. workshops are junk food, too -- completely devoid of academic calories. Now, there may be legitimate private businesses out there that provide real help to families with emotional problems. But even so, they have no place in taxpayer-funded schools whose primary function is supposed to be filling students' heads -- not emptying their lachrymal ducts.

Michelle Malkin makes news and waves with a unique combination of investigative journalism and incisive commentary. She is the author of Unhinged: Exposing Liberals Gone Wild .

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I know a lot of people think this is a republican issue, but it's farm from it. I hate Gilcrease with a passion, I was in his seminars while locked up and he got off on his ability to stand me up in front of everyone and use his training to tear me down before I even knew what was happening. This guy is one of the worst human beings, no, let me rephrase that, this man is the worst human being I have ever come across and that is saying something. This man is evil. Evil straight down to the bone, some humans deserve no compassion and no sympathy other than euthanasia to spare the rest of the world from their insane desires. When this man dies I am going to take a road trip to his grave and dance. Yes, I am going to dance on this fuckers grave, literally. Then I am going to take a chizel out of my pocket and add a few choice words to his tombstone so everyone knows what a piece of shit this man is.

Having said that, Milk is right, the seminars this fucker holds in public are nothing like the ones in private. But they are still crazy enough to freak out the onlookers and make a bunch of kids breakdown and cry, or as Michele put it a psycho cry fest. Sounds about right. Gilcrease IS trying to expand his resource realizations company into public schools, I don't know how this is going. I looked at the article linked and it didn't appear the couple running their own seminars were related to Gilcrease. I could be wrong though.

I am going to do some more research in the next few weeks and see what Gilcrease is up to now, if he is getting good press again and going on Oprah it's time to start writing a few letlters for sure. That would be unbelivable if he ws on Oprah getting praise. But it wouldn't surpsise me, this world is so fucking crazy, it wouldn't surpsise me one bit.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2006, 04:05:22 PM »
Wouldn't surprise me one bit either. I have said for ages the seminars are right up Oprah's ally - thanks to the influence of good ole Doc Phil.
She eats this kind of crap up  - and uses a big spoon.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2006, 04:34:50 PM »
I am sure they are no way near as bad as the WWASP seminars but i had read the article that guest posted previously so when it was on Oprah, I got a chuckle but also realised that perhaps there is a reason why few talk shows will bother criticising this foul industry.
Milk. i am glad ot hear that public school kids can opt out. This is something.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2006, 08:58:08 AM »
Before stating that this are 'not as bad' as the seminars in programs, keep in mind that subtlety poses its own dangers.

By lightening up a bit, they can sneak this mentality into the mainstream. First the cry-fest and then some parents send a kid to the three day camp. Welcome to the cult.

It may well be that ostracism is a good way of keeping this stuff on the fringe, for now. When Oprah and others spread the fad, the same kind of ostracism could end up working against those who wish not to participate.

Not everyone can see through this nonsense and I am sure that there were many Oprah fans going to school boards asking if they could have this program come their own child's school.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2006, 04:07:05 PM »
Oh. i would imagine that no social good could come of this, Iguess I more meant that the seminars would have to be dramatically watered down.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2006, 09:19:26 PM »
For the latest iteration of mainstreaming this kind of thinking, look no further than faith based initiatives:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/busin ... r=homepage

The above article from the NY Times mentions religious based teen programs that receive federal money. One was cut off from funding because they required the teens "spiritual progress" to be part of their assessment. The court felt that was too close to forcing a particular religious view onto vulnerable children to qualify for federal funding. Especially, since the kids were placed there by the State.
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2010, 01:55:55 PM »
Well-deserved bump.
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