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« on: November 16, 2006, 08:08:10 PM »
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WHO'S WATCHING THE KIDS? VIEW DOCUMENTARY ONLINE  
Don't miss a minute of this compelling PBS Documentary regarding schools and programs in Montana. Producer Anna Rau explores the teen help industry and the need for Federal Regulations in private Boarding Schools in Montana.

You can view it online or purchase a copy.[/img]
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2006, 10:32:59 PM »
I give it a 3/5.  It's a good documentary but does little to expose the scope of the problem.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2006, 10:52:58 PM »
Did the link work for you? I've tried several times and it says the sites not available. Even tried montanapbs.org. No luck
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2006, 11:04:26 PM »
Works fine here.

Although please don't link to CAICA on this board. It only goes after the abuse that doesn't pay it. Kinda like a Mafia protection thing.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2006, 11:08:48 PM »
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Works fine here.

Although please don't link to CAICA on this board. It only goes after the abuse that doesn't pay it. Kinda like a Mafia protection thing.


I was wondering why the documentary was WWASP only.  Well now i feel stupid.

Anybody know of any CEDU documentaries.  I need it to show to some people.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2006, 11:09:51 PM »
Try again, it's working. My opinion is that as an introduction to this industry it was good (how much can you do in an hour?) And that it addresses clearly the lack of any oversight and how serious that problem is.

Anyone can open up a program in Montana with no oversight at all and they made that clear. I liked the interviews with Congressman Miller, and Ken Kay, that speaks for itself. What did you think of the Sanders Sheriff? And the owner? The answers, or lack thereof, kind of speak for themselves. These things are what will leave a lasting impression, I think, with the viewer.

I give it two thumbs up and am happy to see something out there that addresses the problems. I suppose anyone who is not happy with it should look into putting a documentary together, or calling their local PBS station, or whatever, and seeing about having another one done.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2006, 11:11:13 PM »
It's not just about WWASPS - it's about 30 programs in Montana and I think only one of those is WWASPS. Get over it already.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2006, 11:18:15 PM »
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It's not just about WWASPS - it's about 30 programs in Montana and I think only one of those is WWASPS. Get over it already.


You're right.  Maybe i missed it.  Perhaps you could enlighten me as to which program in the Docu. was not WWASP affiliated. Don't take it like i'm trying to be a smart ass.  I actually am curious if I missed something.

Don't get me wrong.  It's a great documentary.  I gave it a 3/5 because i'm a really tough critic and want to save the 4/5 and 5/5 for later documentaries which might surpass this in quality.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2006, 11:34:31 PM »
psy,
Search this site for Montana and read up on what's happening there. In a word, Self-Regulation. Want to talk about Twilight Zone Bizarre. Three programs are heading up the research into whether or not programs should be licensed in Montana and if so apprear to be the ones who will structure any such regulations. Under the Dept of Labor!!! Wouldn't you feel safe knowing the hospital you're having surgery in next week created their own regulations?

I still haven't seen it, but I give it a 5/5. It wasn't intended as an expose on the industry, just what is happening right now in Montana.

Who?s watching the kids?
by John S. Adams

One year ago, the Montana Board of Private Alternative Adolescent Residential or Outdoor Programs (PAARP) had their first meeting in Helena, whereupon members began considering the future of regulation of Montana?s lucrative teen-help industry. Created during the 2005 legislative session, the board set forth to ?examine the benefit of licensing private adolescent residential or outdoor programs,? of which there are about 30 in Montana.

Around the time the board was beginning its work, Montana PBS producer Anna Rau began her own investigation of the state?s $40-million-a-year industry. What she found will be the subject of an upcoming Montana PBS documentary, Who?s Watching the Kids?, set to premiere locally Thursday, Sept. 14, at 7 p.m.

Montana is one of the last states in the country with no oversight of the controversial teen-help industry, and according to the 64-page report the PAARP board delivered to the state Economic Affairs Interim Committee on Sept. 12, it looks like it will be at least another two years before any substantial oversight legislation may be considered. The only current PAARP recommendation requiring legislative action would be to give the five-member board?which includes three industry representatives?authority to require programs to register with the board.

?We?ve got some more work to do to determine the regulatory structure and we?ve asked for some more time to do that,? says Trout Creek Rep. Paul Clark, who operates Galena Ridge Wilderness Program for Teens (and authored the legislation creating the PAARP board).

What John didn't mention, is that Clark advertises that he provides therapy and group counseling- practicing without a license. I guess it would be rude to expose someone publicly, even though they're clearly violating the law. And presenting themselves to the public as someone with the necessary ethics to self regulate.

Meanwhile, Rau?s documentary, which the Independent screened earlier this week, paints a grim picture of a booming industry shrouded in controversy and allegations of abuse in a state where no one?to answer the question of the title?is watching the kids.  

Great Falls Sen. Trudy Schmidt, chair of the Children, Families, Health, and Human Services Interim Committee, says she?s not satisfied the board has done enough to protect children in such programs. She says she doesn?t believe a labor department board stacked with industry representatives will get the job done.

Someone in Montana's thinking!!  Here's a person to support in anyway we can. Even if it's a 'thank you' note.

?I still have concerns,? says Schmidt, who adds, ?there?s a good possibility? she?ll introduce new regulatory legislation in the next session.

http://www.missoulanews.com/News/News.asp?no=5964
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2006, 11:57:22 PM »
You said: You're right. Maybe i missed it. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to which program in the Docu. was not WWASP affiliated. Don't take it like i'm trying to be a smart ass. I actually am curious if I missed something.

Don't get me wrong. It's a great documentary. I gave it a 3/5 because i'm a really tough critic and want to save the 4/5 and 5/5 for later documentaries which might surpass this in quality.

In the introductory paragraph the author refers to the 30 + programs in Montana that are self-regulated or non-regulated. It's a horrible situation in that state. Here's what I'm talking about:

There are more than 30 privately run schools for troubled youth operating in the state of Montana. They employ more than 600 people and pump an estimated 4 million into the state income taxes. It's an exploding industry, but strangely, most Montanans have no idea the schools even exist. In this hour-long documentary, MontanaPBS explores a lucrative industry praised for its novel approach to reforming youth, yet shrouded in disturbing allegations of abuse and neglect.

I think they focused on Spring Creek because it's the biggest and brings in the most revenue. They said the little town was all but dead before Spring Creek came along.

I hope we will see more powerful documentaries and movies in the future. I think so.
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2006, 12:26:11 AM »
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psy,
Search this site for Montana and read up on what's happening there. In a word, Self-Regulation. Want to talk about Twilight Zone Bizarre. Three programs are heading up the research into whether or not programs should be licensed in Montana and if so apprear to be the ones who will structure any such regulations. Under the Dept of Labor!!! Wouldn't you feel safe knowing the hospital you're having surgery in next week created their own regulations?


That's in the documentary.

Look.  I'm an art major.  Don't take offense.  3/5 is a really good score.  I commend them for their work and the publicity this will create.

Unfortunately they do not mention regulations on psychotherapy.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2006, 11:51:58 AM »
FYI - you don't need to link or go to CAICA.

The documentary has been made available by PBS Montana on THEIR website for viewing online at no charge!  Just click on the Windows Media player link in bottom left corner.  

http://www.montanapbs.org/WhosWatchingTheKids/
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2006, 12:07:52 PM »
The producers of this program welcome feedback from viewers, please send us an EMAIL at feedback@montanapbs.org
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2006, 01:15:20 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
FYI - you don't need to link or go to CAICA.

The documentary has been made available by PBS Montana on THEIR website for viewing online at no charge!  Just click on the Windows Media player link in bottom left corner.  

http://www.montanapbs.org/WhosWatchingTheKids/


I still get an error:
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.

What "browser setting"? I dont' have problems with other sites.
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