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« Reply #75 on: November 16, 2006, 07:14:06 AM »
Here is the quote from Mr. Penal, one of you regular contributors as of late.  This is actually from this thread.  Page three I believe.

"Alternatively we can tie you to a stake and let him beat the hell out of you. I think that'd make him (and the rest of us) feel a lot better."

When he says "we" he is presumably speaking for the others on this thread with similar views.  Do you support him saying this?
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« Reply #76 on: November 16, 2006, 07:28:04 AM »
you guys confuse me!! and i don't consider myself stupid...
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« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2006, 08:19:33 AM »
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Here is the quote from Mr. Penal, one of you regular contributors as of late.  This is actually from this thread.  Page three I believe.

"Alternatively we can tie you to a stake and let him beat the hell out of you. I think that'd make him (and the rest of us) feel a lot better."

When he says "we" he is presumably speaking for the others on this thread with similar views.  Do you support him saying this?


Wow.  All I can say is "wow."  You, poster who thinks this is an "unprovoked threat of violence," are a moron.  If you think anyone's true aim is to tie someone to a stake and beat  them, then you really need some help.  

You are grasping at straws to try to erode credibility from HLA whistle-blowers, but the fact remains that HLA is a crooked business and you've done nothing to erode that notion.  Stop trying to shift the focus and stick to the issues of fraud, neglect and abuse - thats what it's all about: fraud, neglect and abuse not some kid's hyperbole or flight of fancy.  

The provable, concrete issues are fraud, neglect and abuse.

I hope you now understand.
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« Reply #78 on: November 16, 2006, 08:37:20 AM »
Did he or did he not threaten violence?
Do you support this violent threat?

Answer the questions.  Stop trying to avoid the questions.

Sound familiar Robert?
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« Reply #79 on: November 16, 2006, 09:30:07 AM »
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Did he or did he not threaten violence?
Do you support this violent threat?

Answer the questions.  Stop trying to avoid the questions.

Sound familiar Robert?


Listen, dummy.  I'll explain this again.  It was a remark that was a flight of fancy, hyperbole and intended as a joke.  OK?  Go back and read other MGDP posts and you will see that this is a style of writing, not a style of life.

Did he "threaten violence"?  No, he did not.  If he did, nobody here would support that.

Once again, the issues being discussed in this thread are abuse, neglect and fraud, HLA style.  This is the topic, not some guy's proclivities surrounding creative writing.  Get it straight: ABUSE, FRAUD and NEGLECT by HLA and it's staff members[/b] is the topic of this thread.

Let's get back on track.  Mark Keith is an incompetent,is unqualified by law to be the director of RCF and has allegedly personally abused children both verbally and physically in addition to neglecting to secure proper medical treatment for incidents as serious as ATTEMPTED SUICIDE on his watch.

The poster obsessed with MGDP's statements has some serious problems with understanding relative severity of events.  Some kid posting on a message board pales in comparison to the behavior of Mr. Mark Keith and RCF/HLA.

Do you now understand, dummy?  If not (and this is not a threat of violence), you should be beaten about the head and neck repeatedly until unconsciousness results because you are just that dumb.
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« Reply #80 on: November 16, 2006, 09:43:05 AM »
Robert Bruce has repeatedly stated on this site that if you come to these discussions respectfully, you will be treated with respect.  I have done that.  I have not disrespected anyone.  What I have received in return is threats/wishes of violence and name calling.  Is that what you support on this web site Robert?  Answer the question.

BTW...I hope to God that you can tell that I am merely making a point about Robert Bruce and how he interacts with others on this site.  
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« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2006, 10:00:18 AM »
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Robert Bruce has repeatedly stated on this site that if you come to these discussions respectfully, you will be treated with respect.  I have done that.  I have not disrespected anyone.  What I have received in return is threats/wishes of violence and name calling.  Is that what you support on this web site Robert?  Answer the question.

BTW...I hope to God that you can tell that I am merely making a point about Robert Bruce and how he interacts with others on this site.  


If that's the case, take it up with him via PM.  Stop gumming up the board with your inanities.  We're concerned with facts about HLA/RCF surrounding fraud, neglect and abuse, not some pissing contest between you and Robert.

Be an adult, stop playing "gotcha" with Robert and PM him with your concerns.

It disturbs me deeply that this type of person is the type dealing with children at HLA, yet is totally inept at conflict resolution or even adult behavior for that matter.  You are only buttressing the impression that incompetent, immature people work at/support HLA/RCF.  

Comport yourself in accordance with adult norms, please.  

Being in the behavior modification business, you should have learned long, long ago that the quickest, surest way to extinguish behaviors that are undesirable or maladaptive is to ignore them.  It's a proven scientific fact that this is so.  

It also illuminates the underpinnings of HLA/RCF's "programs" which are based on confrontation and punishment - it doesn't work there, and it sure as hell won't work here.

Grow up and join the rest of us in reality.
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« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2006, 10:14:20 AM »
No.  I will not take it up with him on PM, because he does not do it on PM (at least not exclusively).  You are getting bent out of shape with me doing the EXACT same thing that Robert does on this site.  Why don't you tell him to stop as well?  I will stop this rediculous argument when Robert answers the question:  

Do you support the unprovoked violent threats on this site?

Just answer the question Robert.

Also, if the best way to stop an unwanted behavior is to ignore it then why do you keep responding to me?
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« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2006, 10:40:56 AM »
are RCF and RCI the same place?
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« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2006, 10:55:14 AM »
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are RCF and RCI the same place?


Yes.  Sorry for the confusion.  I've heard it referred to as "Ridge Creek Facility."
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« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2006, 11:00:59 AM »
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No.  I will not take it up with him on PM, because he does not do it on PM (at least not exclusively).  You are getting bent out of shape with me doing the EXACT same thing that Robert does on this site.  Why don't you tell him to stop as well?  I will stop this rediculous argument when Robert answers the question:  

Do you support the unprovoked violent threats on this site?

Just answer the question Robert.

Also, if the best way to stop an unwanted behavior is to ignore it then why do you keep responding to me?


You, my friend, are a dope.  Plain and simple.

You are the reason why HLA/RCF don't work.  You clearly, demonstrably do not understand how to deal with conflict.

Parents, this is the type of idiot that will be browbeating your kid daily until they admit that they allowed themselves to be raped, that they are awful human beings, that their parents no longer want them, that they are "worthless fuckers," etc.

Familiarize yourselves with the approach and the continuing insistence on using a tactics that simply don't bear fruit - confrontation and punishment.  It'll only cost you $6k/mo to have a moron like this take out his/her shortcomings on your kid all day every day until your child is a broken shell of his/her former self.
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« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2006, 11:13:39 AM »
All I am doing is showing you what Robert does on a regular basis.

BTW...I don't work at RCI or HLA.  When I did work at HLA I certainly didn't take this approach.  Why would you assume that me responding to rediculous comments on a web site is the same way I would talk to kids that are in need of help.  I have confindence that you have a broader scope of reality than that.

You and I are actually on the same page with this.  I disagree with Robert when he continually does this kind of crap.  All he needs to do is answer the question and I will stop.
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« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2006, 11:22:41 AM »
Have you stopped beating your wife?

(The answer in this case is "probably not", now that you don't have kids at HLA to take it out on.)
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« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2006, 11:24:55 AM »
"YAWN"

The difference is I badger people to back up their own comments or views not others.

Let's do a little quid pro quo though before we go into anything else.

You claimed this....

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Robert Bruce has repeatedly stated on this site that if you come to these discussions respectfully, you will be treated with respect. I have done that. I have not disrespected anyone


Prove it.

Allow us to link up your comments and prove that you have been respectfull. If you have, and you were truly were treated unfairly than I will apologize and acknolwedge I was wrong.
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« Reply #89 on: November 16, 2006, 11:28:50 AM »
You are not answering the question Robert.  Do you support people threatening violence on this web site or not?  It is an easy question to answer.  A simple yes or no.  I can't imagine why in the world this would be so difficult to answer.
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