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« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2006, 06:23:59 AM »
Don't be so niave she is the one who handles the financials/money with the parents and threatens them when needed in getting Len's money.  I have heard her myself.
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« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2006, 07:06:26 AM »
i know for a fact that this is NOT corky prow!! i do believe this to be Tamara Keith...
first off...if not for Corky, most of the folks that have received refunds or their money back in any way they would not have...she has kept the "kids" money safe and secure making certain that when they get back from visits...as long as the money got to her...that it got credited to the child's account...if not for her that money would be long gone and trust me...it adds up!
as for the threats, etc...she is doing her job...
you can't think that everyone who works/ed there is a tyrant, some of the folks are actually there trying their best to make sure that the parents don't get a raw deal money wise...i know it is a hard pill to swallow...but she really does work very hard to make sure that what she has promised is what happens...
remember some of the folks there, even though they were in a place like that, did their best to make it as good for the kids as they could...we realized that things were going awry (sp) and still tried and got in trouble and some fired for advocating for the kids and their parents when we thought we could help, fix or just in general make less painless...
so say what you will, i know corky did not write that post!
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« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2006, 08:23:32 AM »
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Of course is was Tamara you poor un-educated soul.


Too funny.  While trying to personally attack someone's intelligence level, you post this nonsense.  "Of course is was"?  "Un-educated"?  You need a lot of help.  This is obvious projection from an uneducated poster.
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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2006, 08:34:57 AM »
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Well you must have been a very hateful, disrespectful child.

How funny that you say he shouldn't be let around kids when he has raised his own very well.


You must of just had a life you felt like throwing away.  And thats how you ended up at RC in the first place. With the EVIL MAN!!

Maybe one day you will find peace in your life!!  It is sad to let anger take so much of your energy.


Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.  "When all else fails blame the child."  This poster is typical of program supporters.  They say "don't judge!" and immediately judge others like this fool did.

Get to debating the issues or get lost.

Facts:  Mark Keith is responsible for running RCF.  Under Mark's lead RCF has been cited for scores of violations and some are repeat violations for the same offenses.  Mark Keith is incompetent and needs to look for new work that doesn't involve caring for others or any moral/professional judgements.  He does not have the requisite skills or cognitive horsepower to do the job.  Get him out of there and get someone who is professionally competent to do the job.

It ain't that deep.
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« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2006, 09:25:22 AM »
Why has ORS allowed this man to hold the position of Director/Adm? Did they check credentials? Why wasn't this cited as a violation?

The Administrator or Exec Director is supposed to have a Masters degree and a minimum of 3 years of increasingly responsible experience in the human service, mental health or health care field

OR a Bachelors plus 5 years experience in child care, human services, mental health, and at least 2 in a supervisory or adm position.

Didn't see anything about Military experience.
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« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2006, 09:34:40 AM »
I may be wrong here, but I think Mark's position was more like what Bill Gray at HLA.  He was in charge of operations, not the clinical director.  David Jordan was the clinical director.  I have no idea who took that role on once he left.
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« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2006, 10:16:34 AM »
I don't think so. That sounds like this position:

The staff member with primary responsibility for planning, developing, implementing treatment services, supervising staff who deliver the treatment and ancillary services, and developing in-service training shall have a master's degree in psychology, social work, education or other related fields and experience and/or training in working with children in an outdoor therapeutic environment.

Which sounds like Jordan/Sorrells position.
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« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2006, 10:21:27 AM »
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I may be wrong here, but I think Mark's position was more like what Bill Gray at HLA.  He was in charge of operations, not the clinical director.  David Jordan was the clinical director.  I have no idea who took that role on once he left.


Bill Gray had almost no day to day involvement with the students. You hardly ever saw him unless he happened to be moving from one point of campus to the other, or if you were in the admin building. Someone who has no involvement with the kids would not neccesarily need to have qualifications for dealing with kids.

This is apparently a far cry from Mark Keith. According to these reports and by the very addmission of HLA apologist, Mark was heavily involved in each childs stay at Ridge Creek.

Not the same as Bill Gray by any means.

So again how was Mark Keith qualified for his position?
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« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2006, 10:50:29 AM »
I apologize.  I wasn't clear.  I meant that he does many of the jobs that Bill Gray did in terms of operations.  Of course he is more involved with the kids that Bill was.  The point I was making was that I don't think he was clinical director.  He was quick to admit that he is not a counselor and according to ORS he probably had no business being out there.  I just know of a lot of kids who credit him for turning him around.  


We all know that Len could care less about meeting ORS requirements.  I think that is probably a big reason why David Jordan left.
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« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2006, 11:43:12 AM »
So again how is he qualified and what is the purpose of Ridge Creek?
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« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2006, 12:41:12 PM »
All I am saying is that I think he is good at the job he has been asked to do.  He is not qualified to be a counselor.  RCI should not be doing Interventions.  To me, he is qualified to attempt to motivate the kids who have no other option left but to go to jail.  That's it.
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« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2006, 01:33:10 PM »
Anyone is qualified to "try" anything.  The point is that there should be someone there who knows how to do it, not try to do it.

Get him out of there and get somebody qualified and able.  He just doesn't cut it.
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« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2006, 02:05:26 PM »
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All I am saying is that I think he is good at the job he has been asked to do.  He is not qualified to be a counselor.  RCI should not be doing Interventions.  To me, he is qualified to attempt to motivate the kids who have no other option left but to go to jail.  That's it.


Okay so we've established then that Mark is not qualified to be dealing with these kids.

Great let's move on.

The next question is since he's not qualified what is he doing there and why was he hired?

Also you still havent answered as to what the true purpose of Ridge Creek is?
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« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2006, 02:09:32 PM »
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what the true purpose of Ridge Creek is?


To punish children.  It's really that simple.  To punish kids whose parents are unhappy with them and to punish kids acting out at HLA.  

I've no idea why we run around in circles with this question.  It's a very, very simple concept.  RCF is a conformity factory, nothing more, nothing less.
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« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2006, 02:12:02 PM »
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I beat up someone and had to deal with Mark Keith... There is no excuse for "worthless little fucker" and "Why my parents should have thrown me away" and Why he should "rip off my head and shit down my throat"


Do you see my point? Good...


What were you there for in the first place you whiny little bitch.  You are a bunch of self pitying little punks who are used to being the intimidators and can't handle it when your intimidation tactics don't work with real men.  Sometimes it takes a wake up call to get your attention.  Get it?  Good.  The spreading out of meals throughout many smaller meals is not withholding food.  There were more calories offered during these events than the students got when not on intervention.  It was just spread out throughout the day.  Water was never withheld from the students and they were constantly monitored.  I never worked for HLA and could give a shit about the company.  Regarding DHR, find a company that has existed for a few years that is regulated by them that does not have violations on their record.  There are definitely real questions about HLA that will be played out but stop your fucking whining about everything little thing that has hurt your feelings you hypocrit.
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